Tora Tora Tora

[Indiana Jones]

Will give my disc a spin in a minute and report back on whether the extras are 480p or 576p.

Update - The extras are 480p so this disc will work just fine in any BD player worldwide.

[The Driver]

Thanks to Indiana Jones

I'll still post the full spec when I get my disc although if someone else has the disc please let us know.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by The Driver

Linking to a site where people's first langauge is Cantonese with a few employees thrown in with international English isn't very good evidence.

That's further confirmed because they list countries where SECAM (neither PAL nor NTSC) is (or until very recently was) the local television standard. Yes, I'm sure those people are multi-standard like most ofthe world but it doesn't make sense listing it. I think YesAsia are just covering themselves.

I'll post when I get my disc.

Got news for you. People whose first language is Cantonese make a significant amount of the world's electronics. We'll wait for you because your word is better then websites that sell the product or other members of this forum.

[slick1ru2]

There is another forum that confirms that both the German and UK versions work on US players. They also said that the UK has both version of the the movie, theatrical and Japanese extended. They said the German version doesn't have German dubbed Audio and during the Japanese segments retains the English subtitles. And why people had issues with the extras, I have no idea. Note that this other site, no one talked about the extras.

[The Driver]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

Well the reports are that the extras must be in PAL so they aren't working in U.S. players

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

Got news for you. People whose first language is Cantonese make a significant amount of the world's electronics.

And? What's that got to do with spreading bullshit?

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by The Driver

And? What's that got to do with spreading bullshit?

Don't know. You can contact the sources I listed and ask them (that includes Blu-ray.com members that posted issues with the extras). You want links? If anything smells like BS, its you and your pompous attitude.

[Indiana Jones]

So what's meant to be the problem with the UK release?

[The Driver]

Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

So what's meant to be the problem with the UK release?

Nothing. Just misinformation, rumour, speculation and nonsense. Or the Internet I think they call it too.

Facts don't come into it.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

So what's meant to be the problem with the UK release?

This forum user reported that the extras didn't work on his TV, ask him. https://www.blu-ray.com/community/profile.php?u=22011 That was last August. I reported that and The_Driver jumped all over it like I was the one that said it.

Another BD forum member reported, "Sadly, I just purchased the Region B version of Tora! Tora! Tora! and am watching it now. It looks fantastic on BD but sadly, I disagree with the couple of people who rated the film here and that is only because of the AQ. The AQ is really good but the subtitles are a big problem. In English DTS HD 5.1, one only gets part of the translation of the Japanese spoken word. How could they get that so wrong when the rest of the release is so stellar?"

https://forum.blu-ray.com/movies/127...ml#post3412251

Probably isolated incidents. But I have provided both members contact info so you can contract them for more info.

[Indiana Jones]

Well the extras are definitely 480p so there really should be no issue with playing it on the US.

As for the subtitles, I haven't watched the whole film yet but the scenes I saw which feature Japanese audio had subtitles that seemed to make sense and came up when it seemed they should.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

Well the extras are definitely 480p so there really should be no issue with playing it on the US.

As for the subtitles, I haven't watched the whole film yet but the scenes I saw which feature Japanese audio had subtitles that seemed to make sense and came up when it seemed they should.

Cool.

[KrugerIndustrial]

Does the French version have all the same extras(incl. english subs) as the UK one? I think I prefer that cover art more.

[The Driver]

BTW, you can get another 20% off @ Play with the code 20BLU2 -making it £7.99 shipped.

[Nighteyes]

So are all the European releases identical or are there any differences?

[The Driver]

Very interesting disc! Seems like it's for the UK, Russian and Spanish market.

It has 2 versions of the film which is nice and I'm not really sure which I'll watch. My memory of the movie is very fuzzy so I might go with the non-Japan cut.

I tested the disc in a all-NTSC (ie North America, Japan etc) setup and Euorpean setup and there's nothing that won't play. Looks like the disc is meant for a very specific market too as the subtitles are very limited compared to the usual Fox releases:


The subtitle options do seem to be different depending on which version you choose and this may be deliberate or maybe you can change them on the fly.

Covers:



Some screengrabs (untouched PNG 1080p):









Picture certainly looks wonderful! Those images look great.

If anyone needs something about the disc checking just post the question.


Would be nice to hear what people who have seen the 'Japanese version' and still have a fresh memory of the better known version.

[The Driver]

For reference:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/germany/11...tora-tora.html (Germany)
https://forum.blu-ray.com/france/118...tora-tora.html (France)
https://forum.blu-ray.com/italy/1197...tora-tora.html (Italy)

Not the same disc at all, then.

[KrugerIndustrial]

I think I'm gonna go with the French disc. The cover art is better looking IMO. Also comes in a thin case.

[manicsounds]

Got my disc today. Noticed the database audio and subtitle specs are all wrong, so I just corrected them and added that this disc is Region C compatible as well.

[slick1ru2]

Thanks for the info on compatibility everyone. Be nice if Midway comes out soon too. Placed my order, under $20 with shipping to the U.S.. But if you do that, check your CC rate of conversion, its often lower then Amazon by a little, gives you exactly what the published exchange rate is at the moment, Amazon adds a little on top.

[kryptonite1970]

One of my favorite