Blu-ray leads standalone market - Blu-ray Forum

Iron Man · 01-06-2008, 06:11 PM

Live from Toshiba's CES press conference.

It's a small lead, buts its there. Not even $99 players and 12 free movies could beat Blu-ray.

Source: Toshiba
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/l...ss-conference/

JTK · 01-06-2008, 06:32 PM

Of course they have to exclude and ignore that pesky PS3.

RUR · 01-06-2008, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTK

Of course they have to exclude and ignore that pesky PS3.

Only when it suits their specious arguments, of course!

Seretur · 01-06-2008, 06:35 PM

If we want to split hairs, they included the LG combo.

Then again, they don't say if they included the XBOX add-on, either. Prolly not, but still.

That pie chart doesn't say much... except this:

Hi, we're Toshiba, we are allegedly still supporting HD DVD for the win, see, it's doing just splendidly, kthanxbye, next subject.

Iron Man · 01-06-2008, 06:35 PM

yes....

didn't HD-DVD lead with something like 60:40 in November after the $99 dollar firesale??

Toshiba didnt mention any new HD-DVD players at all

Seretur · 01-06-2008, 06:37 PM

Oh yeah, you're right!

And wait -- if they were going to introduce them, this would've been the venue to do it, right?

Brilliant. Okay, they've thrown in the towel, then.

Joon · 01-06-2008, 06:42 PM

You have to love the route HD-DVD backers are taking right now. They lost Warner and now it shows that BD has outsold HD-DVD stand alones in 2007. Now they are all about media downloads. How do you go from backing a format and buying discs, to getting so mad that HDM is going to die now and they are all about downloading movies? This is truly getting pathetic.

Sonny · 01-06-2008, 06:44 PM

They mentioned nothing new cause they have no plans that longer include standalone HDDVD players.

Iron Man · 01-06-2008, 06:49 PM

It nearly sounds to good to be true.....

By the end of the November the ratio was around 60:40 with 700.000 HD-DVD sold and 460.000 Blu-ray players.

That means that there was sold more 500.000 Blu-ray stand alones in December

Elandyll · 01-06-2008, 06:52 PM

People, this is huge.
Despite the lower saels, and the 100.00 or so $98 A2/A3 sale .. Do you imagine how many Blu Ray players must have sold in about 3 weeks to erase all that and take the lead ?

o.m.g...

Warner really didn't need an incentive imho

PaulGo · 01-06-2008, 06:55 PM

If they got any money (Warner and Fox) they did it at the right time, since sales were swinging to to Blu. Our victory is complete! They way Blu sales are going (hardware and software) companies should be paying the BDA for the privilege of going Blu!

HeavyHitter · 01-06-2008, 06:58 PM

There's a bunch of suckers over at AVS that would love to buy a new Toshiba player. In a recent poll over there, 53% said they would definitely buy a new player or at least consider one.

Keesie · 01-06-2008, 06:58 PM

how does BD have the lead in standalones? Sorry new here...

Toshiba almost has 49.1% ... Sony about 30, and the others aren't making BD players only right?

please explain, thanks

huge BD supporter btw...just registered

blu reality · 01-06-2008, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seretur

If we want to split hairs, they included the LG combo.

Then again, they don't say if they included the XBOX add-on, either. Prolly not, but still.

That pie chart doesn't say much... except this:

Hi, we're Toshiba, we are allegedly still supporting HD DVD for the win, see, it's doing just splendidly, kthanxbye, next subject.

Toshiba makes the 360 add on so it's included.

It's basically a draw in standalones, even with our side having the higher price. Blu-Ray had an incredible December.

It also fails to include the PS3...so it's easy to see just how bad dud was falling behind. They had lost their #1 talking point.

Curumo · 01-06-2008, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keesie

how does BD have the lead in standalones? Sorry new here...

Toshiba almost has 49.1% ... Sony about 30, and the others aren't making BD players only right?

please explain, thanks

huge BD supporter btw...just registered

yea, right...

SDG · 01-06-2008, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keesie

how does BD have the lead in standalones? Sorry new here...

Toshiba almost has 49.1% ... Sony about 30, and the others aren't making BD players only right?

please explain, thanks

huge BD supporter btw...just registered

All of thoes on the right side of the chart make BD players. There are more makers of BD players that are not on the list. Welcome.

Keesie · 01-06-2008, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDG

All of thoes on the right side of the chart make BD players. There are more makers of BD players that are not on the list. Welcome.

oh thanks

and thanks!

damn BD is doing more than good!

dtrush · 01-06-2008, 07:14 PM

Toshiba forgot to include those HD-DUD players by Onkyo? who made a few units & sold them all & stopped production. Those were definitely sold as stand alone units.

SunBLU · 01-06-2008, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtrush

Toshiba forgot to include those HD-DUD players by Onkyo? who made a few units & sold them all & stopped production. Those were definitely sold as stand alone units.

Trauma to the head from the WB announcement must have really knocked them senseless.

Blu-Light · 01-06-2008, 07:30 PM

Not only were software sales a deciding factor in warners decision but also hardware. That chart right there is a serious blow to HD-DVD. They have continued to lose market share in the standalone department for months now. And now they are left with below 50% market share of HD players.

The news keeps getting better and better if you support Blu-ray.

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01-06-2008, 06:11 PM	#1
Iron Man Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	Blu-ray leads standalone market Live from Toshiba's CES press conference. It's a small lead, buts its there. Not even $99 players and 12 free movies could beat Blu-ray. Source: Toshiba http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/l...ss-conference/

01-06-2008, 06:32 PM	#2
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	Of course they have to exclude and ignore that pesky PS3.

01-06-2008, 06:35 PM	#4
Seretur Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:An Island in the Adriatic Blu-ray collection:521 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:2	If we want to split hairs, they included the LG combo. Then again, they don't say if they included the XBOX add-on, either. Prolly not, but still. That pie chart doesn't say much... except this: Hi, we're Toshiba, we are allegedly still supporting HD DVD for the win, see, it's doing just splendidly, kthanxbye, next subject.

01-06-2008, 06:37 PM	#6
Seretur Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:An Island in the Adriatic Blu-ray collection:521 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:2	Oh yeah, you're right! And wait -- if they were going to introduce them, this would've been the venue to do it, right? Brilliant. Okay, they've thrown in the towel, then.

01-06-2008, 06:42 PM	#7
Joon Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:208 Trading Score:1	You have to love the route HD-DVD backers are taking right now. They lost Warner and now it shows that BD has outsold HD-DVD stand alones in 2007. Now they are all about media downloads. How do you go from backing a format and buying discs, to getting so mad that HDM is going to die now and they are all about downloading movies? This is truly getting pathetic.

01-06-2008, 06:44 PM	#8
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	They mentioned nothing new cause they have no plans that longer include standalone HDDVD players.

01-06-2008, 06:49 PM	#9
Iron Man Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	It nearly sounds to good to be true..... By the end of the November the ratio was around 60:40 with 700.000 HD-DVD sold and 460.000 Blu-ray players. That means that there was sold more 500.000 Blu-ray stand alones in December

01-06-2008, 06:52 PM	#10
Elandyll Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Location:MD Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:1	People, this is huge. Despite the lower saels, and the 100.00 or so $98 A2/A3 sale .. Do you imagine how many Blu Ray players must have sold in about 3 weeks to erase all that and take the lead ? o.m.g... Warner really didn't need an incentive imho

01-06-2008, 06:55 PM	#11
PaulGo Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:North Potomac, MD	If they got any money (Warner and Fox) they did it at the right time, since sales were swinging to to Blu. Our victory is complete! They way Blu sales are going (hardware and software) companies should be paying the BDA for the privilege of going Blu!

01-06-2008, 06:58 PM	#12
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	There's a bunch of suckers over at AVS that would love to buy a new Toshiba player. In a recent poll over there, 53% said they would definitely buy a new player or at least consider one.

01-06-2008, 06:58 PM	#13
Keesie Junior Member Member since:Jan 2008	how does BD have the lead in standalones? Sorry new here... Toshiba almost has 49.1% ... Sony about 30, and the others aren't making BD players only right? please explain, thanks huge BD supporter btw...just registered

01-06-2008, 07:14 PM	#18
dtrush Active Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Sandy, UT U.S.A. Blu-ray reviews:1	Toshiba forgot to include those HD-DUD players by Onkyo? who made a few units & sold them all & stopped production. Those were definitely sold as stand alone units.

01-06-2008, 07:30 PM	#20
Blu-Light Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006	Not only were software sales a deciding factor in warners decision but also hardware. That chart right there is a serious blow to HD-DVD. They have continued to lose market share in the standalone department for months now. And now they are left with below 50% market share of HD players. The news keeps getting better and better if you support Blu-ray.

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