batman begins or dark knight?

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Originally Posted by Sonny Chiba

Burton's movies are much more Batman to me than Batman Begins. Batman isn't only a character, it's also an atmosphere and the world of Gotham City. Nolan's Gotham City is Chicago. It should be referred to as such, becuase it certainly is not gothic in anyway imaginable.

And I find Burton's take on the character brillaint. Giving Nolan brownie points for being more "true" to the comic version is also kind of nonsense imo, because the jackoff Bruce Wayne is Batman Begins is nothing like the one from the comic imo. They're both takes on the same character with tweaks added. No take on the same character will be the same, this especially goes for the comic in droves.

I will also note that Nolan's films would not exist without Tim Burton. Burton's impact on the maturity and the dakenss of the entire franchise was profound. If that didn't occurr, the comic would be vastly different and people would still only connect Adam West with Batman in the pop culture at large.

Burton's Batman isn't Batman. He is just Michael Keaton in Tim Burton movie playing a weirdo billionaire with homicidal impulses. I like Michael Keaton. I think he did the best he could with the material. The problem for me is that the movie is cheesy, dated, and more of a cartoon. Everything looks like it was shot on a Hollywood sound stage. I don't care about comic book accuracy. I never really read any of the comics. I feel that the world Nolan created is far more interesting than Burton's. It's like a heightened version of our own. Ledger's Joker makes Nicholson's take look like, well, a clown. He wasn't scary or threatening to me in the least. Jack's Joker was easily the best thing about that movie but Nolan's interpretation of the character took it to a whole other level.

I will say that I do hope Bale tones down "the voice" for the third movie.