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X-Ninja · 01-08-2008, 09:34 PM

Alright. Here I am... sitting in my basement with my new onkyo TX-SR605 (http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...=Receiver&p=i). Woo hoo! 7.1. Been dieing for this baby.

Alright. So ive hooked up all my speakers to the right places. All is fine - hooked up the wii through stereo sound just to test them all. they worked.

Now, everything is set up perfect, right? K, so lets plug in the PS3 through HDMI shall we?

I plug it in, and reach down to the receiver hoping for an "HDMI 1" button.
Oh, of coarse... that would be too easy, right?

The instructions told me to assign a slot to the HDMI using my remote. so, after about 2 hours of cleaning the basement looking for the remote (Im terrible for losing remotes. this'll prob be gone in a couple days... or... minutes.

)

So there is is. Found my remote behind my TV. Yay! I guess i should read the instructions some more before jumping into everything and screwing it up like i usually do.

Well heres what the directions told me -

"If you've connected your TV to the AV receiver/AV amplifier with an HDMI cable, you can set the AV receiver/AV amplifier so that composite video, S-Video, and componant video sources are upconverted* and output by HDMI OUT. You can set this for each imput selector by selecting the "_ _ _" option."

hmmm. im liking the sound of that. Upscaled NES? Awsome...

So I get my good old HDMI - DVI cable out and plug it into the Receiver, and into the TV.
Woo Hoo. Now to plug the PS3 into the HDMI IN, right? yup! Did it. i got me some nice 7.1 PCM audio. Awsome. except... heres the issue.

No picture! Great! I love me some black screens.

so, here we are... ive got my HDMI - DVI cable plugged into HDMI OUT on the receiver and INPUT 1 on the TV. Ive got the PS3 set to HDMI and plugged into "HDMI 1" on the receiver. Ive got the receiver set for HDMI 1 to show me, and make me hear the PS3.

All im getting is audio. is there some sort of special setup for this thing to output through HDMI or somthing?

Any help would be EXTREMELY useful.

Thanks everyone!

clyon · 01-08-2008, 09:38 PM

have you had the ps3 plug to that same TV before & did it work?

what tv (model #) do you have

could be HDCP/HDMI issue

kpkelley · 01-08-2008, 09:39 PM

Probably an hdcp issue related to the hdmi to dvi cable.

quetzalcoatl · 01-08-2008, 09:40 PM

I cannot answer you question because I donot know much about the Onkyos but this might help you.
Top 10 Onyko receiver mistakes
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949414

RUR · 01-08-2008, 09:42 PM

Reset the PS3 by holding down the on button until you hear a second beep. See if you've got video and report back.

gearyt · 01-08-2008, 09:48 PM

There is a setting in the receiver to select output to HDMI
are you seeing the srtup graphics on your tv??

crackinhedz · 01-08-2008, 09:58 PM

This may sound dumb, but did you change the Input on the TV itself...I know you said you plugged it in, but did you actually switch the TV to the "DVI 1" input?

RUR · 01-08-2008, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

This may sound dumb, but did you change the Input on the TV itself...I know you said you plugged it in, but did you actually switch the TV to the "DVI 1" input?

It's not dumb, it's genius. Most likely causes in (more or less) descending order:
1) PS3 wasn't set to HDMI output and requires reset
2) TV not set to DVI 1 input
3) Some obscure receiver setting
4) HDCP handshake issues with the TV model

X-Ninja · 01-08-2008, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

This may sound dumb, but did you change the Input on the TV itself...I know you said you plugged it in, but did you actually switch the TV to the "DVI 1" input?

Haha. yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpkelley

Probably an hdcp issue related to the hdmi to dvi cable.

Dought it. Unless it decided to work for a year with my PS3, then all of a sudden break the second i bought my receiver.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUR

Reset the PS3 by holding down the on button until you hear a second beep. See if you've got video and report back.

Did that. Still no picture...

Plus, that just sets it to 480i and asks me if i wanna use HDMI. which then, after pushing right to select "Yes" (Ive memorized that one) - the screen just remains black.

also, i would have to be on HDMI or elese i wouldnt be getting PCM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gearyt

There is a setting in the receiver to select output to HDMI
are you seeing the srtup graphics on your tv??

Is there really? What/where is it? It doesnt seem to be in the book.

and... im not sure what srtup graphics are.

Thanks for helping out everyone! Im dieing to get this to work...

EDIT: Forgot to say my TV model. its an old "Hitachi 46F510" TV. :/

RUR · 01-08-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-Ninja

Plus, that just sets it to 480i and asks me if i wanna use HDMI. which then, after pushing right to select "Yes" (Ive memorized that one) - the screen just remains black.

What asks you? The PS3 setup graphics on the TV screen?

X-Ninja · 01-08-2008, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUR

What asks you? The PS3 setup graphics on the TV screen?

yeah. Well, at least it did in SD. unless of coarse it defaults to whatever cable is plugged in.

Maybe it does...

Ill go unplug the Componant cables and see if it works.

crackinhedz · 01-08-2008, 10:27 PM

im wondering if...

(in the past)...the ps3 use to "automatically" select the optimum resolution,1080p, if you let it...perhaps its selected and is why you cannot see it? ...I would guess they fixed this by now, it was a problem about a year ago...?

RUR · 01-08-2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

im wondering if...

(in the past)...the ps3 use to "automatically" select the optimum resolution,1080p, if you let it...perhaps its selected and is why you cannot see it? ...I would guess they fixed this by now, it was a problem about a year ago...?

When I use Automatic on my 1080i set, it correctly finds that resolution (as well as 720p and 480p) and checks the right boxes. Nevertheless, we now know he's got an image. Now, it's all about finding out why he can't move from the setup image to the next step.

crackinhedz · 01-08-2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUR

When I use Automatic on my 1080i set, it correctly finds that resolution (as well as 720p and 480p) and checks the right boxes. Nevertheless, we now know he's got an image. Now, it's all about finding out why he can't move from the setup image to the next step.

Yeah I assumed they already fixed the resolution issue...

xninja, can you not see the XMB or is it when you load a movie that you dont see it?

RUR · 01-08-2008, 10:36 PM

While we're waiting, know any good HDMI + tube pre/pros?

X-Ninja · 01-08-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-Ninja

yeah. Well, at least it did in SD. unless of coarse it defaults to whatever cable is plugged in.

Maybe it does...

Ill go unplug the Componant cables and see if it works.

k, that diddnt work. but for now, ive set the video output through componant cables going directly into the TV, and the Audio going through HDMI into the receiver. Not really the setup i wanted since now i cant upscale PS3 games, but you know. Whatever.

Wish the PS3 had 2 HDMI outs like it was originally supposed to have... but what can you do!?

This should be fine. For now...

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

im wondering if...

(in the past)...the ps3 use to "automatically" select the optimum resolution,1080p, if you let it...perhaps its selected and is why you cannot see it? ...I would guess they fixed this by now, it was a problem about a year ago...?

Nope. You've gotta set it up custom now. which is nice.

Though it IS working fine right now. ive got 1080i on the TV, ive got PCM on the receiver - If anyone who knows how to fix this could possibly help out, it'd be appreciated.

Thanks everyone!

crackinhedz · 01-08-2008, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUR

While we're waiting, know any good HDMI + tube pre/pros?

Whats an "HDMI + tube pre/pro"?

X-Ninja · 01-08-2008, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUR

When I use Automatic on my 1080i set, it correctly finds that resolution (as well as 720p and 480p) and checks the right boxes. Nevertheless, we now know he's got an image. Now, it's all about finding out why he can't move from the setup image to the next step.

nonononono. i had no image. i had just memorized to push "Left" then push "X", then after it beeps push "Left" then push "X" again in order to output through HDMI. I bring my PS3 over to peoples houses all the time, ive done it a few times.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

Yeah I assumed they already fixed the resolution issue...

xninja, can you not see the XMB or is it when you load a movie that you dont see it?

Couldnt see the xmb at all. couldnt even see the ps3 startup.

no video was being outputted

gearyt · 01-08-2008, 10:40 PM

OK, here we go...
push the set-up button on the receiver remote
Center, left
you should get a screen on your TV
that says "menu"
select 1-input / output assign
select 1- monitor out = HDMI Monitor = yes
what ya got ??

X-Ninja · 01-08-2008, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUR

When you arrow right from the HDMI/Component/Composite/AV Multi screen, you should have the choice of custom or automatic. What do you see when you arrow right?

Ha. nothing... ive got no video.

Gonna go try out what Gearyt told me to do up there.

01-08-2008, 09:34 PM	#1
X-Ninja Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:North Bay, Ontario Posts: Over 1100.......... PSNetwork- Axecution Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:6	Help! Please? :o Alright. Here I am... sitting in my basement with my new onkyo TX-SR605 (http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...=Receiver&p=i). Woo hoo! 7.1. Been dieing for this baby. Alright. So ive hooked up all my speakers to the right places. All is fine - hooked up the wii through stereo sound just to test them all. they worked. Now, everything is set up perfect, right? K, so lets plug in the PS3 through HDMI shall we? I plug it in, and reach down to the receiver hoping for an "HDMI 1" button. Oh, of coarse... that would be too easy, right? The instructions told me to assign a slot to the HDMI using my remote. so, after about 2 hours of cleaning the basement looking for the remote (Im terrible for losing remotes. this'll prob be gone in a couple days... or... minutes. ) So there is is. Found my remote behind my TV. Yay! I guess i should read the instructions some more before jumping into everything and screwing it up like i usually do. Well heres what the directions told me - "If you've connected your TV to the AV receiver/AV amplifier with an HDMI cable, you can set the AV receiver/AV amplifier so that composite video, S-Video, and componant video sources are upconverted* and output by HDMI OUT. You can set this for each imput selector by selecting the "_ _ _" option." hmmm. im liking the sound of that. Upscaled NES? Awsome... So I get my good old HDMI - DVI cable out and plug it into the Receiver, and into the TV. Woo Hoo. Now to plug the PS3 into the HDMI IN, right? yup! Did it. i got me some nice 7.1 PCM audio. Awsome. except... heres the issue. No picture! Great! I love me some black screens. so, here we are... ive got my HDMI - DVI cable plugged into HDMI OUT on the receiver and INPUT 1 on the TV. Ive got the PS3 set to HDMI and plugged into "HDMI 1" on the receiver. Ive got the receiver set for HDMI 1 to show me, and make me hear the PS3. All im getting is audio. is there some sort of special setup for this thing to output through HDMI or somthing? Any help would be EXTREMELY useful. Thanks everyone!

01-08-2008, 10:40 PM	#19
gearyt Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Henderson, NV Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:33	OK, here we go... push the set-up button on the receiver remote Center, left you should get a screen on your TV that says "menu" select 1-input / output assign select 1- monitor out = HDMI Monitor = yes what ya got ?? Last edited by gearyt; 01-08-2008 at 10:42 PM.

01-08-2008, 09:38 PM	#2
clyon Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Just left of the Alpha Quadrant 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:824 Blu-ray reviews:8	have you had the ps3 plug to that same TV before & did it work? what tv (model #) do you have could be HDCP/HDMI issue

01-08-2008, 09:39 PM	#3
kpkelley Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Framingham, MA 4K collection:385 Blu-ray collection:2478 Digital collection:113 Blu-ray reviews: 152	Probably an hdcp issue related to the hdmi to dvi cable.

01-08-2008, 09:40 PM	#4
quetzalcoatl Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Grants Pass, OR	I cannot answer you question because I donot know much about the Onkyos but this might help you. Top 10 Onyko receiver mistakes http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=949414

01-08-2008, 09:42 PM	#5
RUR Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Abiit, excessit, evasit, erupit Blu-ray collection:143 Trading Score:1	Reset the PS3 by holding down the on button until you hear a second beep. See if you've got video and report back.

01-08-2008, 09:48 PM	#6
gearyt Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Henderson, NV Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:33	There is a setting in the receiver to select output to HDMI are you seeing the srtup graphics on your tv??

01-08-2008, 09:58 PM	#7
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	This may sound dumb, but did you change the Input on the TV itself...I know you said you plugged it in, but did you actually switch the TV to the "DVI 1" input?

01-08-2008, 10:27 PM	#12
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	im wondering if... (in the past)...the ps3 use to "automatically" select the optimum resolution,1080p, if you let it...perhaps its selected and is why you cannot see it? ...I would guess they fixed this by now, it was a problem about a year ago...?

01-08-2008, 10:36 PM	#15
RUR Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Abiit, excessit, evasit, erupit Blu-ray collection:143 Trading Score:1	While we're waiting, know any good HDMI + tube pre/pros?

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