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Old 07-15-2011, 09:47 PM   #1
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SD video can benefit from being encoded at HD. Tired of this know it all snobbery in regards to upscales being evil for content that will never be HD. The limits of DVD can't bring out the true potential video quality for anything, let alone material shot on video. It's like people pretend that that only thing wrong with DVD is the 480 resolution.
What I'm saying is that WWE should focus on bringing out newer content that is already in HD, the content that truly benefits from a BD release. The transfers from tape to Blu-Ray for WWE content isn't the same as when Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory gets transferred to BD, there's not a significant difference to waste time with a BD release. I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, but it's disappointing that they would rather release 99% SD content onto BD, as opposed to focusing on releasing more true HD content. They didn't release every PPV in 2009 on BD, I'm sure, because they didn't think it would sale to make up for the cost of releasing them, and they're not wrong by that. But they also do just fine with their DVD sales that titles like this don't require a BD release, just focus on more true HD titles.
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:08 PM   #2
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What I'm saying is that WWE should focus on bringing out newer content that is already in HD, the content that truly benefits from a BD release. The transfers from tape to Blu-Ray for WWE content isn't the same as when Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory gets transferred to BD, there's not a significant difference to waste time with a BD release. I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, but it's disappointing that they would rather release 99% SD content onto BD, as opposed to focusing on releasing more true HD content. They didn't release every PPV in 2009 on BD, I'm sure, because they didn't think it would sale to make up for the cost of releasing them, and they're not wrong by that. But they also do just fine with their DVD sales that titles like this don't require a BD release, just focus on more true HD titles.
If they didn't think this would sell, they wouldn't be releasing it. Stop crying like a baby. The hardcore fans obviously want this more that matches from many of the green nobodies that couldn't work a match to save their lives that the WWE now employs. Just tough break I guess.

And nobody says it will look like a new Tim Burton movie. However, the video quality of these HD encoded matches will still be improved over shitty DVD encodes. It's well worth it imo. The point of Blu-ray is to bring out the best and most accurate picture quality possible from the source material. This will do that.
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:14 PM   #3
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If they didn't think this would sell, they wouldn't be releasing it. Stop crying like a baby. The hardcore fans obviously want this more that matches from many of the green nobodies that couldn't work a match to save their lives that the WWE now employs. Just tough break I guess.

And nobody says it will look like a new Tim Burton movie. However, the video quality of these HD encoded matches will still be improved over shitty DVD encodes. It's well worth it imo. The point of Blu-ray is to bring out the best and most accurate picture quality possible from the source material. This will do that.
Hate to burst your bubble bro but the classic matches on disc 3 of the WM 26 Blu Ray aren't that great a quality. The Jake the Snake vs Million Dollar Man match from WM 6 looks pretty close to the same as my WM 6 DVD from the anthology set. I expect this to be the same picture wise although if disc 2 has a hour or so of Blu Ray exclusive footage with a decent price point I might be in.
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:31 PM   #4
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Hate to burst your bubble bro but the classic matches on disc 3 of the WM 26 Blu Ray aren't that great a quality. The Jake the Snake vs Million Dollar Man match from WM 6 looks pretty close to the same as my WM 6 DVD from the anthology set. I expect this to be the same picture wise although if disc 2 has a hour or so of Blu Ray exclusive footage with a decent price point I might be in.
Those were extras that had nothing to do with the main feature. They're going to be treated better on this set I think instead of just slapping them on. Comparing SD extras to upscaled HD main feature content is no comparison. I'm just going to assume a lot of you guys know nothing about Blu-ray at all and are just talking out of the sides of your mouth if you think there is no difference between SD upscaled to a true HD encode on a Blu-ray disc as opposed to a DVD upscaled by a Blu-ray player.

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With that in mind, I'm surprised to see this one get a BD release considering the source.
It's Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. The only people who would be surprised are the Sports Entertainment koolaid drinkers I guess.
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Those were extras that had nothing to do with the main feature. They're going to be treated better on this set I think instead of just slapping them on. Comparing SD extras to upscaled HD main feature content is no comparison. I'm just going to assume a lot of you guys know nothing about Blu-ray at all and are just talking out of the sides of your mouth if you think there is no difference between SD upscaled to a true HD encode on a Blu-ray disc as opposed to a DVD upscaled by a Blu-ray player.



It's Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. The only people who would be surprised are the Sports Entertainment koolaid drinkers I guess.
All I'm saying is they were extras yes, but they were on a Blu Ray disc. I don't need charts or bitrate data to tell me what is and isn't aesthetically pleasing to look at. Not gonna start a back and forth argument over it just saying I'll be interested to see what the Blu Ray exclusive content is because that is what will sell me on this set not slightly better than DVD footage.

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Old 07-16-2011, 12:40 AM   #6
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Those were extras that had nothing to do with the main feature. They're going to be treated better on this set I think instead of just slapping them on. Comparing SD extras to upscaled HD main feature content is no comparison. I'm just going to assume a lot of you guys know nothing about Blu-ray at all and are just talking out of the sides of your mouth if you think there is no difference between SD upscaled to a true HD encode on a Blu-ray disc as opposed to a DVD upscaled by a Blu-ray player.
I'm just going to assume that you haven't even watched a WWE BD because there any a couple of BD titles that have spots of older content during the main presentation, as well as the extra's. You act as if we're speaking as experts. I don't know about anyone else, but I certainly am not speaking as an expert. I am simply just speaking as a fan of the product and what I want to see. No one is crying like a baby, as you say. This is a forum, we speak our minds however we want.

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Old 07-16-2011, 12:45 AM   #7
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Any WWE Blu has my purchase, especially one with such a huge history like this one
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The word is WWE is planning to make more of these "rivalry" releases. Rumor is Austin vs. Rock is next.
That could be OK, but I personally find the Michaels vs. Hart one much more interesting, due to the real-life animosity between the two at the time...
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Old 07-19-2011, 02:20 PM   #9
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It's Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. The only people who would be surprised are the Sports Entertainment koolaid drinkers I guess.
What a meaningless comment that has no baring on the video source quality whatsoever. They still release most of their videos as DVD only, and are even scaling back on the number of PPVs which get blu-ray editions (which sucks). Being a so-called "Sports Entertainment koolaid drinker" has nothing to do with anything being discussed here.
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