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Elandyll · 08-09-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

Already been explained a few hundred times in this thread.

But the "explanation" doesn't hold water and just reeks of retconning.

That Anakin would appear just has Luke saw him but healthy instead of burnt/ missing limbs is the redemption, the return to the light side.
Him appearing like he was in his 20s is ... idiotic. At this rate, Obi Wan should appear as Ewan McGregor and Yoda should look much younger as well, everyone appearing as they were at their "peak" as Ghosts.

Petyr_Baelish · 08-09-2011, 07:51 PM

Maybe when you die you get to choose your ghost body.

Beast · 08-09-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

Maybe when you die you get to choose your ghost body.

Depends on the mythology. But usually most folklore referring to ghosts allow them to manifest however they want.

Yoda: "Luminous Beings Are We, Not This Crude Matter".

So Anakin should clearly be restricted in Ghost Form by what shape his body was in when he died.

That's why he's scarred all over, missing his hair and eyebrows, and also missing limbs.

That's also why he appears in Darth Vader's armor when he shows up as a ghost.

Wait....

Beast · 08-09-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Elandyll

But the "explanation" doesn't hold water and just reeks of retconning.

That Anakin would appear just has Luke saw him but healthy instead of burnt/ missing limbs is the redemption, the return to the light side.
Him appearing like he was in his 20s is ... idiotic. At this rate, Obi Wan should appear as Ewan McGregor and Yoda should look much younger as well, everyone appearing as they were at their "peak" as Ghosts.

I must have missed the films where those two characters turned to the Dark Side.

bboisvert · 08-09-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

I must have missed the films where those two characters turned to the Dark Side.

If they had known that they'd get to spend eternity as a 20-year-old instead of looking ancient, maybe they would have. Seems like a pretty good deal.

Slaughter millions, repent right before death, get a face lift. Good deal.

Blu-man08 · 08-09-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

I must have missed the films where those two characters turned to the Dark Side.

Obi-Wan and Yoda were always meant to turn to the dark side. It's part of George's back story that he wrote to flesh out the prequels. These scenes will appear in the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy: Special Edition to celebrate the 20th Anniversary of the Phantom Menace.

Elandyll · 08-09-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

I must have missed the films where those two characters turned to the Dark Side.

Lol. Because turning to the dark side and -then- being redeemed is the key to looking younger as a ghost?

Yoda, Obi Wan and Qui-Gon have been screwed!

octagon · 08-09-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

I must have missed the films where those two characters turned to the Dark Side.

The Dark Side as a spiritual moisturizer...I like it.

Reputator · 08-09-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotpattern

Technically, there was still a continuity issue with Sebastian Shaw at the end since he had hair, no facial scarring and all of his arms and legs.

Why would you take those with you to the afterlife?

bboisvert has the right of it.

bboisvert · 08-09-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu-man08

Obi-Wan and Yoda were always meant to turn to the dark side. It's part of George's back story that he wrote to flesh out the prequels. These scenes will actually appear in the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy: Special Edition to celebrate the 20th Anniversary of the Phantom Menace.

He will then give Yoda CGI "angry eyes" in ESB to tie things together using techniques that weren't available to him when originally filming.

siso · 08-09-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

Depends on the mythology. But usually most folklore referring to ghosts allow them to manifest however they want.

Yoda: "Luminous Beings Are We, Not This Crude Matter".

So Anakin should clearly be restricted in Ghost Form by what shape his body was in when he died.

That's why he's scarred all over, missing his hair and eyebrows, and also missing limbs.

That's also why he appears in Darth Vader's armor when he shows up as a ghost.

Wait....

In the same line of thoughts Obi wan should appear half sliced ghost,after Vader cut him in ANH?

Blu-man08 · 08-09-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bboisvert

He will then give Yoda CGI "angry eyes" in ESB to tie things together using techniques that weren't available to him when originally filming.

Shhh! Don't give away all the spoilers!

gregmasciola · 08-09-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

Depends on the mythology. But usually most folklore referring to ghosts allow them to manifest however they want.

Yoda: "Luminous Beings Are We, Not This Crude Matter".

So Anakin should clearly be restricted in Ghost Form by what shape his body was in when he died.

That's why he's scarred all over, missing his hair and eyebrows, and also missing limbs.

That's also why he appears in Darth Vader's armor when he shows up as a ghost.

Wait....

That would actually be funny to see. Have Yoda & Obi Wan's ghosts, then Darth Vader's ghost fades in and challenges Obi-Wan to a lightsaber fight. Obi-Wan just rolls his eyes and turns back to Luke. Cut to Luke smiling at them, then back to the ghosts, where Darth keeps swinging his lightsaber at Obi-Wan, but since they're all ghosts, it just keeps going through him.

Blu-man08 · 08-09-2011, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gregmasciola

That would actually be funny to see. Have Yoda & Obi Wan's ghosts, then Darth Vader's ghost fades in and challenges Obi-Wan to a lightsaber fight. Obi-Wan just rolls his eyes and turns back to Luke. Cut to Luke smiling at them, then back to the ghosts, where Darth keeps swinging his lightsaber at Obi-Wan, but since they're all ghosts, it just keeps going through him.

See, what you've described is exactly what George has in store for the 50th Anniversary 3D-Hologram version of the Saga. It's a little known fact that George is a huge fan of Force Ghost slapstick. He always thought it would be funny to insert some Force Ghost slapstick into the conclusion of the Saga.

Petyr_Baelish · 08-09-2011, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Reputator

Why would you take those with you to the afterlife?

bboisvert has the right of it.

I think his point is that is what his body looked like when he died, so if you truly supposed to look like you did when you die, that's what he should look like.

Allow me to enter lucas' thoughts. Perhaps his intention was for anikan to be how he remembered himself to be.

gregmasciola · 08-09-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by siso

In the same line of thoughts Obi wan should appear half sliced ghost,after Vader cut him in ANH?

I never even thought about that!

Honestly, this is one of those debates where I think both sides have perfectly valid points. It just comes down to personal preference. I would much rather have Sebastian Shaw show up as Anakin's ghost, because Luke never saw young Anakin, but I can go either way. I still think Hayden's ghost looks decent next to Yoda & Obi-Wan (he doesn't stick out like a sore thumb to me).

Beast · 08-09-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

I think his point is that is what his body looked like when he died, so if you truly supposed to look like you did when you die, that's what he should look like.

Allow me to entire lucas' thoughts. Perhaps his intention was for anikan to be how he remembered himself to be.

I'll just link to the official stuff about it....

https://forum.blu-ray.com/5006075-post1377.html

Blu-man08 · 08-09-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

I'll just link to the official stuff about it....

https://forum.blu-ray.com/5006075-post1377.html

No offense, but your link is to a post you wrote. Hardly official.

Petyr_Baelish · 08-09-2011, 08:17 PM

Why would anikan want to be a ghost anyways when he could spend an eternity with padme?

al cos. · 08-09-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

I'll just link to the official stuff about it....

https://forum.blu-ray.com/5006075-post1377.html

Ha, it's fun to make up stuff, isn't it?

08-09-2011, 07:51 PM	#1722
Petyr_Baelish Expert Member Member since:Jun 2009 Blu-ray collection:423	Maybe when you die you get to choose your ghost body.

08-09-2011, 08:17 PM	#1739
Petyr_Baelish Expert Member Member since:Jun 2009 Blu-ray collection:423	Why would anikan want to be a ghost anyways when he could spend an eternity with padme?

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