81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers

[TheRealBob]

Originally Posted by BlueNeon

I also bought the MI Trilogy the week of the defection (Best Buy), and I still have not even opened it yet.. I remember that amazon had a sales that week and I purchased like 30 movies. Overall, that was a horrible week

There's still one sitting at our local Best Buy in case anyone still wants it.

Or you could contact BlueNeon I guess.

(To me MI 1 was a "fun to see once" movie. MI 2 and MI 3 are currently in the "might be fun to see some day" category.)

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by TheRealBob

There's still one sitting at our local Best Buy in case anyone still wants it.

Or you could contact BlueNeon I guess.

(To me MI 1 was a "fun to see once" movie. MI 2 and MI 3 are currently in the "might be fun to see some day" category.)

Nope, not me. Not interested in selling mine.

[reider]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

When Paramount bolted the sales of the Blu titles went up as people rushed to grab them before they disappeared.

Gary

The Paramount situation was slightly different. They dropped the support instantaneously - hence the rush. HD DVD'er still have few months of Warner support, and few months to hope that Microshiba will be able to buy Warner back.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by reider

The Paramount situation was slightly different. They dropped the support instantaneously - hence the rush. HD DVD'er still have few months of Warner support, and few months to hope that Microshiba will be able to buy Warner back.

In the meantime, the retailers are faced with a sudden plummet in sales.

Should they wait for some miracle, or should they start encouraging Blu-ray adoption to regain the loss?

Gary

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

In the meantime, the retailers are faced with a sudden plummet in sales.

Should they wait for some miracle, or should they start encouraging Blu-ray adoption to regain the loss?

Gary

It would be best for the retailers to start to support only blu. If BB would only sell blu, they capture a larger audience. They get all the people who want to buy blu, and the people who are looking to buy a high def player. This also would eliminate any confusion as to the difference between the two formats. Buy only selling blu, you'll be able to sell a lot more hardware and software.

[reider]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

In the meantime, the retailers are faced with a sudden plummet in sales.

Should they wait for some miracle, or should they start encouraging Blu-ray adoption to regain the loss?

Gary

This is a rhetorical question, right?

The only question is how "nice" the retailers want to play it out with Toshiba. I don't think Toshiba will just give up... at this point it will try to kill the mainstream future of HDM, thus preserving its DVD income.

[Living Near Shamu]

Retailers shouldn't be that nice to Toshiba. It should be the other way around. After all, they sell other stuff that bears their name, like TVs, dvd players, cd players, etc.

[patrick99]

It looks like we are finally seeing the plummeting red lines on the Amazon sales rank comparisons that I expected to see much sooner than this.

[Mastrodisastro]

Originally Posted by cvm

It would be best for the retailers to start to support only blu. If BB would only sell blu, they capture a larger audience. They get all the people who want to buy blu, and the people who are looking to buy a high def player. This also would eliminate any confusion as to the difference between the two formats. Buy only selling blu, you'll be able to sell a lot more hardware and software.

It's just a question of time. Maybe just few weeks (if not only one )

[TheRealBob]

Originally Posted by patrick99

It looks like we are finally seeing the plummeting red lines on the Amazon sales rank comparisons that I expected to see much sooner than this.

Amazon obviously skews toward people that check news online and browse the forums. It also has skewed somewhat toward HD DVD, pretty consistently showing higher sales of that format relative to Blu-ray than the Nielsen numbers when there hasn't been a Blu-ray sale.

I think a lot of the online HD DVD community, while initially dispirited, kind of rallied themselves back into believing that HD DVD had a chance. So we saw a plunge in the numbers right after the 1/4 Warner announcement, then about a week later the numbers started going up again.

But after the last set of numbers hit, the 85:15 ratio made it clear that in the real world, outside of the Internet bubble, HD DVD is dead. The reality check has led to another plunge, and I wouldn't be surprised if this one if permanent.

Here's the graph for the top 100 Amazon sales over the last month:

http://charts.highdefdigest.com/hist...PE=100&SPAN=30

Hopefully the remaining HD DVD supporters will give it up already and take the smart path that Dave Vaughn did in rallying behind the winning format even though it wasn't the one he wanted. There's a time to fight, but that time is past for HD DVD.

[kolasi]

there are still the dilusional duders who swear they have a chance at winning and getting some studios to switch.

[Lee Christie]

Originally Posted by reider

The Paramount situation was slightly different. They dropped the support instantaneously - hence the rush. HD DVD'er still have few months of Warner support, and few months to hope that Microshiba will be able to buy Warner back.

Good point. Of course Warner won't go back, but the fact it's not immediate make things a little different to the Paramount switch.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by kolasi

there are still the dilusional duders who swear they have a chance at winning and getting some studios to switch.

There a very few of those. Even most of the remaining HD DVD proponents are unwilling to keep investing in the products. You are going to read a lot of "fighting statements", but they will be unwilling to spend their dollars. The Nielsen numbers for the next month are going to be a great PR for Blu. We need 100% studio support.

[jkcheng122]

for the adoption of one format to happen tho, we will need the big retailers like BB and Wal-mart to do something very bold. That is, take not only hd dvd players off the shelves, but also Universal and Paramount hd dvd titles. this is the only way to achieve one-format and eliminate consumer confusion imo.

this is also a way of pushing the remaining HD DVD studios to adopt blu-ray and end the format war once and for all.

[navychop]

My, how things are slowing down in this thread.

Does anyone think Blu-ray's share of the market will ever drop below 80% again?

[docjan_uk]

quite possibly in the next week or two, but we'll see how things shake out.

[Sonny]

HDDVD is gone with 30% of HDM. They need to give up this "scratching at the wall" mentality its not good for a single person no matter where they stand.

[gandley]

Originally Posted by Sonny

HDDVD is gone with 30% of HDM. They need to give up this "scratching at the wall" mentality its not good for a single person no matter where they stand.

I think the HDDVD camp know that as well.

Bill sums it up well in his rumoir mill.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html#012108

[JAGUAR1977]

Originally Posted by navychop

My, how things are slowing down in this thread.

Does anyone think Blu-ray's share of the market will ever drop below 80% again?

Yes, HD-DVD owners got a second wind the week after the WB announcement, so a week or two of better figures are possible for them, but after that Blu-ray should be in the 80's most weeks.

[jkcheng122]

does HD DVD even have any upcoming titles that can get it back to 65:35 ratio?