Is Blu-ray your last "hurrah" or would you upgrade again? - Blu-ray Forum

tron3 · 01-23-2008, 06:38 PM

This is NOT about "movie downloads" . Sure, it will happen. But hard media is here to stay. Please stay on topic.

I have said it before, "Blu-ray is my last hurrah." While the potential of some movies is not fully realized on BD, there is little incentive to ever upgrade again to yet another new format.

Even *IF* 2k and 4k home monitors become affordable, do I want to dip again in a new technology? Isn't it bad enough a number of people dipped for the numberous formats like LaserDisc, VHS, & DVD? Not to mention any number of re-releases.

Sure, it's easy to say "never again" when you are holding the best in your hand. Didn't we say the same about DVD? But with blu-ray any new offerings will seem to have diminishing returns. This is high def people. Higher Def may not matter to us.

Has blu-ray become the "good enough" technology to outlive all other formats combined?

Go Blu · 01-23-2008, 06:42 PM

When I first started buying DVD I thought the same thing...this is it.

So I think if I'm being honest to myself, YEAH I'd trade up again.
Depends on how well my BR upconverts! hehe

CptGreedle · 01-23-2008, 06:42 PM

If resolution is the only upgrade, Blu-ray seems to be good enough for the size we have now. Anything larger would be wasted on this size screen.
However, if something like 3D technology or the like was to come around... I might consider an upgrade.

But for the size screens we have now, Blu-ray is all you need.

Stinkin Mushroom · 01-23-2008, 06:44 PM

3D stuff in the future will make us go to yet another standard i think (not those prototypes like now) i mean in the future future

Sy- · 01-23-2008, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Has blu-ray become the "good enough" technology to outlive all other formats combined?

Probably not... I don't plan on being dead for a while!

Heart&Soul · 01-23-2008, 06:52 PM

Yes, I would upgrade. I hope at some point there will be a higher resolution and faster frame rates from movies.

ground chuck · 01-23-2008, 06:59 PM

i'll upgrade when my kids are old enough to be telling me what technology i should be buying.

GregBlu5 · 01-23-2008, 07:03 PM

I dunno. After investing in vinyl, 8-track, cassette, CD, Betamax, VHS, CED, Laserdisc, DVD, and now Blu-ray, by the time the next format rolls around I'm gonna be surviving on Social Security income. Doubt if I could afford the next go round.

'Course, if I start now, I can write up one of those signs for standing on street corners: "To hell with food. Will work for the next Hi Def format!"

Beta Man · 01-23-2008, 07:06 PM

how close are we to resolutions that are indistinguishable by the human eye? I'm sure we have some slack still, but how much?

york weir · 01-23-2008, 07:13 PM

Absolutely. Higher resolutions, deep color and many other advances I'm not creative enough to even think of.

DezNutz · 01-23-2008, 07:14 PM

HVD it is coming...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc

3.9 terabytes a disk... we can do some new things with that space..

The HVD also has a transfer rate of 1 Gbit/s (128 MB/s).

Teazle · 01-23-2008, 07:16 PM

3D?

7.1 or 9.1 DSD audio?

rragland · 01-23-2008, 07:19 PM

I am the constant early adopter. I just hope and pray that I will be able to afford to upgrade when the occasion presents itself.

tron3 · 01-23-2008, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

how close are we to resolutions that are indistinguishable by the human eye? I'm sure we have some slack still, but how much?

That has been the argument. It's the reason you don't see 1080p on on HDTV smaller than 32" - only 720p. I speculate a TV would need to be 50" for 1440 to make a difference and probably 60+" for 2k to be noticeable.

1440 is 360 more lines than 1080. That should be plenty for any 60 or 70 inch home video system. Beyond that is just overkill and unsupportable natively by blu-ray.

"Let's say you drop dead and I shoot you: you're not gonna die again..." - Jerry / Seinfeld

ranma · 01-23-2008, 07:21 PM

At least I wish some blockbuster BD titles, like LotR, will be upscale well to 4k resolution. the LotR DVD did great on upscale 1080.

Bombthroat · 01-23-2008, 07:22 PM

I will upgrade again if it remains a physical format that offers clear advantages over what is already available.

bhampton · 01-23-2008, 07:22 PM

Well,

I don't know.

???

-Brian

Grisle · 01-23-2008, 07:22 PM

Hopefully BD will be backwards compatible with the next HDM...if so then I'll upgrade for new Day and date stuff.

tqlla · 01-23-2008, 07:23 PM

It never ends.

tron3 · 01-23-2008, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranma

At least I wish some blockbuster BD titles, like LotR, will be upscale well to 4k resolution. the LotR DVD did great on upscale 1080.

Any well done DVD transfer with high enough bit rate will upconvert decently. The better the sample from higher bit rates, the better the upconvert.

Try upconverting anything recorded in SP or LP mode. Not only is the playback quality lacking, the upconvert should suffer as well.

01-23-2008, 06:38 PM	#1
tron3 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2004 Location:New Jersey Blu-ray reviews:3	Is Blu-ray your last "hurrah" or would you upgrade again? This is NOT about "movie downloads" . Sure, it will happen. But hard media is here to stay. Please stay on topic. I have said it before, "Blu-ray is my last hurrah." While the potential of some movies is not fully realized on BD, there is little incentive to ever upgrade again to yet another new format. Even IF 2k and 4k home monitors become affordable, do I want to dip again in a new technology? Isn't it bad enough a number of people dipped for the numberous formats like LaserDisc, VHS, & DVD? Not to mention any number of re-releases. Sure, it's easy to say "never again" when you are holding the best in your hand. Didn't we say the same about DVD? But with blu-ray any new offerings will seem to have diminishing returns. This is high def people. Higher Def may not matter to us. Has blu-ray become the "good enough" technology to outlive all other formats combined?

01-23-2008, 07:14 PM	#11
DezNutz Expert Member Member since:Mar 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:24	HVD it is coming... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc 3.9 terabytes a disk... we can do some new things with that space.. The HVD also has a transfer rate of 1 Gbit/s (128 MB/s). Last edited by DezNutz; 01-23-2008 at 07:17 PM.

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01-23-2008, 06:42 PM	#2
Go Blu Special Member Member since:Feb 2007	When I first started buying DVD I thought the same thing...this is it. So I think if I'm being honest to myself, YEAH I'd trade up again. Depends on how well my BR upconverts! hehe

01-23-2008, 06:42 PM	#3
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	If resolution is the only upgrade, Blu-ray seems to be good enough for the size we have now. Anything larger would be wasted on this size screen. However, if something like 3D technology or the like was to come around... I might consider an upgrade. But for the size screens we have now, Blu-ray is all you need.

01-23-2008, 06:44 PM	#4
Stinkin Mushroom Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Belgium Blu-ray collection:3	3D stuff in the future will make us go to yet another standard i think (not those prototypes like now) i mean in the future future

01-23-2008, 06:52 PM	#6
Heart&Soul Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Oregon 4K collection:167 Blu-ray collection:725 Blu-ray reviews:50	Yes, I would upgrade. I hope at some point there will be a higher resolution and faster frame rates from movies.

01-23-2008, 06:59 PM	#7
ground chuck Power Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Charm City Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:48 Trading Score:18	i'll upgrade when my kids are old enough to be telling me what technology i should be buying.

01-23-2008, 07:03 PM	#8
GregBlu5 Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Indio, CA 4K collection:794 Blu-ray collection:3954 iTunes collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:1	I dunno. After investing in vinyl, 8-track, cassette, CD, Betamax, VHS, CED, Laserdisc, DVD, and now Blu-ray, by the time the next format rolls around I'm gonna be surviving on Social Security income. Doubt if I could afford the next go round. 'Course, if I start now, I can write up one of those signs for standing on street corners: "To hell with food. Will work for the next Hi Def format!"

01-23-2008, 07:06 PM	#9
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	how close are we to resolutions that are indistinguishable by the human eye? I'm sure we have some slack still, but how much?

01-23-2008, 07:13 PM	#10
york weir Special Member Member since:Nov 2007	Absolutely. Higher resolutions, deep color and many other advances I'm not creative enough to even think of.

01-23-2008, 07:16 PM	#12
Teazle Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Canada Blu-ray reviews:1	3D? 7.1 or 9.1 DSD audio?

01-23-2008, 07:19 PM	#13
rragland Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Olive Branch, MS. Trading Score:1	I am the constant early adopter. I just hope and pray that I will be able to afford to upgrade when the occasion presents itself.

01-23-2008, 07:21 PM	#15
ranma Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray collection:321 Blu-ray reviews:3	At least I wish some blockbuster BD titles, like LotR, will be upscale well to 4k resolution. the LotR DVD did great on upscale 1080.

01-23-2008, 07:22 PM	#16
Bombthroat Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	I will upgrade again if it remains a physical format that offers clear advantages over what is already available.

01-23-2008, 07:22 PM	#17
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Well, I don't know. ??? -Brian

01-23-2008, 07:22 PM	#18
Grisle Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Northern California 4K collection:18 Blu-ray collection:18 Trading Score:12	Hopefully BD will be backwards compatible with the next HDM...if so then I'll upgrade for new Day and date stuff.

01-23-2008, 07:23 PM	#19
tqlla Active Member Member since:Sep 2007	It never ends.

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