PS3 Struggles in 360 WAR Questions Answered!

[kapow!]

It's been what, a year since the PS3 was released? You're acting like they came out at the same time. 360 has reached it's peak and no other game but Halo 4 and GoW2 will sell systems anymore.

PS3 started out bad undeniably because of the expensive price tag. Now they've cut the price considerably and they'll be dropping their AAA titles on us this year with more to come in 09. 08 is the PS3's year, no doubt.

Microsoft can only make so many shooters to sell systems. There's nothing that appeals to me on the 360. They better start hyping GoW2 because what else do they have on the horizon? Fable 2 and Gaiden 2 are the only games I'm interested in, but not nearly enough for me to gamble on Microsoft's poorly made hardware.


Oh yeah.. and MS better PRAY they don't release a FF7 remake. ~FACT~

[Jet Cero]

Originally Posted by kapow!

It's been what, a year since the PS3 was released? You're acting like they came out at the same time. 360 has reached it's peak and no other game but Halo 4 and GoW2 will sell systems anymore. ***but not nearly enough for me to gamble on Microsoft's poorly made hardware.***

I am not acting that they came out the same time it's that within the same time frame as the 360 did, a little around a year for GoW, the PS3 was unable to roll out a strong enough title to draw many gamers to it's console... Lair was solid but annoying for some controls, Uncharted was a decent game... short though, and Ratchet and Clank I have to give props to for still going strong! And as for a poorly made hardware... i will admit that the PS3 is made with much better parts and can produce a picture that the 360 cannot achieve but you cannot say that there has not been games that not impressed you... because if so, then I call BS!

[Jet Cero]

Originally Posted by kapow!

Oh yeah.. and MS better PRAY they don't release a FF7 remake. ~FACT~

Woah relax buddy! I am rooting for the PS3 along with the 360. And as for a FFVII, the correct way of spelling it, remake THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!! But you have to remember that the 360 is not a PoS, you have to remember it's market share as a whole, not one person. Oh yeah by the way it was cute how you put "~FACT~" at the end. Kudos to you!

[kapow!]

You're right... Castlevania SOTN on xbl did make me want a 360 for a short time. But I just played it again on an emulator and satisfied my needs.

[Jet Cero]

Originally Posted by kapow!

You're right... Castlevania SOTN on xbl did make me want a 360 for a short time. But I just played it again on an emulator and satisfied my needs.

See you're the kinda thickheaded person that finds a tread like this and gets so offended that you have to try to put down what ever opposes you. Everything I have used has been strong opinions to where the PS3 must go. And you come in saying that the 360 is shit. It's not shit, not even close...

[kapow!]

I can honestly say SOTN was the only game on the 360 that I really, really wanted. 360 just isn't for me. The majority of their top titles are FPS, which I find repetitive and would rather play on my PC. Like you said, it's all opinions right?

[Jet Cero]

Originally Posted by kapow!

I can honestly say SOTN was the only game on the 360 that I really, really wanted. 360 just isn't for me. The majority of their top titles are FPS, which I find repetitive and would rather play on my PC. Like you said, it's all opinions right?

There you backed yourself up! That's what you need to state... is why... You told me you'd rather play fps on your pc which totally eliminates a 360... BUT by saying "the 360 is a poorly made piece of hardware" is an opinion with nothing to back it up. Yes failure rate was high and is steadily lowering but as for the 3 3.2 processors supply a sufficient picture quality as of one that competes with my $1400 PC i build, it can't be that bad... that's why i attacked. Is that a person can speaks ones mind but if not able to back his opinion with logical explanation does not get heard or proven that the ones opinion is wrong.

[Teazle]

Jet Cero has got it wrong if by saying that the PS3 is a gaming console he means something like _primarily_ a gaming console rather than a console for gaming inter alia.

The main reason derives from Sony's business interests as a vertically integrated producer of multimedia content and hardware alike. They develop and publish music, movies, television shows, video games and probably are involved in other media in other ways (maybe interests in print (Sony Reader)? broadcast? dunno). PS3 and PSP are clearly conceived as hardware platforms for the delivery of the content that make money for Sony. This means: not just games. That's the underlying business reason why PS3 is designed to function as a multimedia device. Despite the success of PS2 as a games machine, with the PS3 the intention was to expand the functionality of the device and the brand image of Playstation so as to make even more money for Sony by promoting higher consumption of their own content. This business model sets them apart from e.g. Nintendo who are quite content to make dedicated games hardware (after all, contentwise Nintendo only produce games).

Sony made gestures in this direction with PS2 and even PS1 (CD playback) but the hardware wasn't advanced enough to realize fully the Kurtargian vision. (E.g. the PS2's video playback isn't good enough for it to replace your DVD player in the way the PS3 does.) PS2 would have been more multifunction if only they could have built it cheaply enough; that it came out as a mainly-games console was a concession of sorts that Kutargi hoped to rectify with PS3.

However some people may wish to think of PS3 as a games-only or games-mainly machine, that would be trebly wrong. First, PS3 was never intended by its manufacturer as a single-use device; second, such would not be in the interests of the manufacturer; third, in point of brute fact PS3 does not work only or mainly as a games console.

[tqlla]

Originally Posted by Jet Cero

BUT by saying "the 360 is a poorly made piece of hardware" is an opinion with nothing to back it up.

Are you joking? The 360 has around a 33% or greater failure rate. IT IS A POORLY MADE PIECE OF HARDWARE.

Thats not an opinion. Thats a fact.

Look at this
1.2 billion dollars.... to extend the 360s warranty specifically for the RROD for 3 years. When they announced that... the issue was supposidly fixed, and they had shipped 12-13 million 360s.

How much do you think it costs to repair an RROD 360?
$100 = 12 million repairs out of 12-13 million 360s
$200 = 6 million repairs out of 12-13 million 360s
$300 = 4 million repairs out of 12-13 million 360s

The expected failure rate on a 360 over 3 years... is.... pretty high.

From a hardware standpoint.... IT is a poorly made piece of hardware. PERIOD. That is not defensible.

And since you like to talk about how the 360 is so much better from a software standpoint..... what new highly anticipated exclusives are coming to the 360 in the near future, that are not FPS games. (I actually dont know, so I am looking for an answer)

[Mikeblu]

To be perfectly honest I have no intention of buying a console with a higher falure rate than a 86 year old mans heart.

[Kierre]

Originally Posted by kapow!

It's been what, a year since the PS3 was released?

Take this point and run with it. Since inception the PS3 is remarkably on track with the 360's 1st year (FACT).

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php

It only gets better from here for the PS3 as a masterful piece of hardware (gaming, entertainment or otherwise) where as the 360 is the same soup warmed over, I.E., 360 Elite.

I own both and I think Sony had guts to manufacture a box with so many innovations and capability to mold in several directions. What do you want to use your PS3 for today, Linux, Blu-Ray, DVD, Media etc.?

[95pgtproject]

The 360 has better game argument can only last a little while longer. THe ps3 has been pumping out lots of A+ titles in the last 6 months and many more to come in 2008 so soon enough the 360 will have 0 advantage over the ps3 in the gaming dept.

360s are yesterdays counsels and fanboys are just trying to keep them on top like they would any of there fav systems but time will win this war and its easy to see the ps3 is catching the 360 and will be far far ahead of it in the next couple of years


One more thing people are getting sick of buying a system the needs to be sent in for repairs once a year or more.

[jorg]

i see all his points but if u would click on the link in my sig u can see that as many call 2007 the game year for xbox 2008 will be the eyar sony dominates it out showdows even x box 2007 line up the ps3 will be dominate in europe and japan and be decent in america

[jorg]

Originally Posted by Teazle

Jet Cero has got it wrong if by saying that the PS3 is a gaming console he means something like _primarily_ a gaming console rather than a console for gaming inter alia.

The main reason derives from Sony's business interests as a vertically integrated producer of multimedia content and hardware alike. They develop and publish music, movies, television shows, video games and probably are involved in other media in other ways (maybe interests in print (Sony Reader)? broadcast? dunno). PS3 and PSP are clearly conceived as hardware platforms for the delivery of the content that make money for Sony. This means: not just games. That's the underlying business reason why PS3 is designed to function as a multimedia device. Despite the success of PS2 as a games machine, with the PS3 the intention was to expand the functionality of the device and the brand image of Playstation so as to make even more money for Sony by promoting higher consumption of their own content. This business model sets them apart from e.g. Nintendo who are quite content to make dedicated games hardware (after all, contentwise Nintendo only produce games).

Sony made gestures in this direction with PS2 and even PS1 (CD playback) but the hardware wasn't advanced enough to realize fully the Kurtargian vision. (E.g. the PS2's video playback isn't good enough for it to replace your DVD player in the way the PS3 does.) PS2 would have been more multifunction if only they could have built it cheaply enough; that it came out as a mainly-games console was a concession of sorts that Kutargi hoped to rectify with PS3.

However some people may wish to think of PS3 as a games-only or games-mainly machine, that would be trebly wrong. First, PS3 was never intended by its manufacturer as a single-use device; second, such would not be in the interests of the manufacturer; third, in point of brute fact PS3 does not work only or mainly as a games console.

i agree like what sony said "were a hard ware companie" thats what there good at look when a softwar companie trys to make hardware(x box 360) they treat em like software and end up with rushed and 30% fauiler rate
sony had much better luck in ther not special areay companby to microsoft

[Dragonraine]

Originally Posted by MOONPHASE

xbox 360 games are not true hd though. sure it supports hd but its not full hd. these are the words from a guy who works for playstation and who came into my gamestop store i work at

Neither system produces all its games in 1080p. Oh, how do you work for "playstation?". If you are talking about the Sony reps who come into the stores, of which my best friend used to be one. He was recruited out of his own gamestop store where he was a manager, and he said the job was cool, because he got to travel around and set up kiosks and just put up signs and stuff, but they didnt tell him jack. He said most of his info he learned online like everyone else WAY before Sony informed him of it with pamphlets and stuff. The instore reps of any company are always the last to know.

[FailedEXE]

I pretty much explained myself already in another thread but it slipped by with no reply. If you can convince me jet by spelling out all the exclusives you have. Those 52 (I mean what did you do, buy them all out to impress somebody?) in your library, I'll do a a scan. Meanwhile, I'll provide you with a link of what upcoming exclusives games are for the PS3.

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=86124

The list is missing a couple games that are to come as well so I'll had what was left out

Uncharted 2
Valkyrie Of the Battlefield
ICO 3

I'd say that's pretty damn impressive that 3 new IP's spawn on the Playstation 3 and yet they are already getting sequals.

I also hope you know that im fixed on JRPG's. The Xbox 360 has little reception because it's a western made console. If the support isn't there, why should I buy one? Final Fantasy 13 in on the PS3 and not the 360. Makes sense right? Same thing will be for Star Ocean 4 and god knows how many other RPG's will spawn by the time 2009 ends. Ironically, I bought a PS2 in 2001 for Metal Gear Solid 2 and Final Fantasy 10. Same thing happened with PS3.

Trust me, as far as games go, that's the first thing I argue. Never mind all the gadgets and gizmos included with the system.

[tqlla]

Thats what I am thinking? Aside from FPS... what highly anticipated new exclusives are going to the xbox360?

I dont care too much about games that are 6 months or older, and I dont care much for FPS. I didnt buy an xbox360 then.... why would they make me want one now?

[Spankey]

Someone needs to get Scott Aruti out of here. Just sayin'...

[SBrooks1]

Originally Posted by kapow!

It's been what, a year since the PS3 was released? You're acting like they came out at the same time. 360 has reached it's peak and no other game but Halo 4 and GoW2 will sell systems anymore.

GTAIV will sell 360's just like will sell PS3's.

[SBrooks1]

Originally Posted by MOONPHASE

xbox 360 games are a rip off they are same price as ps3 games and yet its just a dvd at least with ps3 games its a blu-ray disc so its like it makes you feel like you are not wasting money.

What about the cross platform games that are the exact same size on 360 and PS3? Developers are making those games for the 360 and porting them to the PS3. Example....All EA Sports games. There's no advantage to owning a cross platform game on the PS3. Especially when it looks and runs better on the 360. See: Madden '08 which I despise.

I do own Unreal Tournament III for my PS3 which I enjoy.