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View Poll Results: Which is the best PS3 headset
Turtle Beach PX5 7 33.33%
Tritton AX720 1 4.76%
Official Sony 7,1 Headset 13 61.90%
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:09 AM   #21
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No problem at all, I'm glad to help.

Ok, got the DSS module today and gave it another test with movies. My initial impression is correct as when I tested with the DSS module from the DPX21 phones. That is, non Dolby encoded sources (DTS, DTS HD-MA) will not play when bitstreamed from the PS3. Your only choice for DTS/DTS-HD MA if the disc does not have a vanilla DD 5.1 track is to change the PS3 to output LPCM instead of bitstream. The output results in 2-CH PCM from the PS3 via Optical, and the DSS module then kicks into Dolby Pro-Logic mode. However, in this mode it does not sound like Dolby Headphone is engaged as it sounds stereo to me, versus when receiving a DD 5.1 stream I can hear the surround effect with Dolby Headphone. In which case, I don't know for sure if Dolby Headphone only supports a 5.1 stream or if the DSS module itself only does Dolby Headphone with a 5.1 stream. Nevertheless, it still sounds great.

Dolby TrueHD on the other hand works fine and the core DD 5.1 lossy format is delivered to the DSS module. Iron Man was a joy to test out - it sounded fantastic!

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Old 12-07-2011, 03:03 AM   #22
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Hmm ok. Well I've been playing bluray in stereo for the last year (not all films, just when I watch them at night) so I guess with non Dolby films, stereo would do. Alot of my films are from Sony so they have Dibly digital.
I wonder if there is another similar sound processor that can handle all surround sources. I will look into it, but it looks like I will go with this route you have suggested. Cheers mate, thanks so much

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No problem at all, I'm glad to help.

Ok, got the DSS module today and gave it another test with movies. My initial impression is correct as when I tested with the DSS module from the DPX21 phones. That is, non Dolby encoded sources (DTS, DTS HD-MA) will not play when bitstreamed from the PS3. Your only choice for DTS/DTS-HD MA if the disc does not have a vanilla DD 5.1 track is to change the PS3 to output LPCM instead of bitstream. The output results in 2-CH PCM from the PS3 via Optical, and the DSS module then kicks into Dolby Pro-Logic mode. However, in this mode it does not sound like Dolby Headphone is engaged as it sounds stereo to me, versus when receiving a DD 5.1 stream I can hear the surround effect with Dolby Headphone. In which case, I don't know for sure if Dolby Headphone only supports a 5.1 stream or if the DSS module itself only does Dolby Headphone with a 5.1 stream. Nevertheless, it still sounds great.

Dolby TrueHD on the other hand works fine and the core DD 5.1 lossy format is delivered to the DSS module. Iron Man was a joy to test out - it sounded fantastic!
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:10 AM   #23
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Just curious, I've been looking at this for a while:
Yamaha YMC-700 neoHD

If I hooked this up to my ps3 via hdmi to get a the source and then hooked up the headphone jack to the F540 receive box, then the F540 straight to the PS3
USB, you reckon I would still get digital surround sound to the headphones.?
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:23 AM   #24
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Are you saying send HDMI video to the Yamaha, then use the RCA connection from the PS3 multi-adapter to the F540 base unit for audio, and then the F540 USB to the PS3 USB for communication? If that's what you mean then it should work, you would just have to enable the PS3 multi-audio option in the Sound Settings. However this would also always be stereo in this configuration as the PS3 doesn't have any DSP or sound processing that would produce a surround effect out of the RCA out.

I also can't comment on bass output though if that matters to you, as that's where the DSS unit comes into play. Without the DSS when I connected the F540 directly to my AVR, I really missed not having the subwoofer type bass from the DSS module.

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Old 12-08-2011, 12:41 AM   #25
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A little more input would be nice
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:43 AM   #26
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Well ended up getting the PX5's wasn't entirely my decision, it was an Xmas gift but I'm sure glad I got a headset
Cheers for the input guys
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:31 AM   #27
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Well ended up getting the PX5's wasn't entirely my decision, it was an Xmas gift but I'm sure glad I got a headset
Cheers for the input guys
I say you have chosen wisely. I bought my PX5 back in September and I am loving it. Sure it's $250 too much, but it's freak'n worth it.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:59 PM   #28
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I say you have chosen wisely. I bought my PX5 back in September and I am loving it. Sure it's $250 too much, but it's freak'n worth it.
Yep, can't wait to actually play games in surround. Been playing stereo since the days of cod 4 .

Also, I'm wanting to hook this headset up to my pc as well, which is a good to toslink splitter? I don't want anything that lowers the output quality and can carry digital signals.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:19 AM   #29
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Congrats! I would have put those on my list to try if I hadn't gotten such an excellent price on the F540s. Happy gaming!
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:33 PM   #30
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I just got the earforce dss today for the primary purpose of using it for my blu-ray movies on the ps3. The problem I am having is that I can't get it to do Dolby Digital, it only does Pro Logic II no matter what movie or settings or set ups I try.

I've done ps3 -HDMI-> TV -TOSLINK-> DSS -3.5mm-> Headphones
and ps3 -TOSLINK-> DSS -3.5mm-> Headphones

I have my TV digital audio output set to Dolby Digital, the other option is PCM
I have tried the PS3 output as HDMI only, Optical Only and Multiple output and with all of those I set the PS3 to output Dolby Digital 5.1 along with the default PCM 2.0 44.1khz and 48khz

I have tried movies with DTS-MA with Dolby Digital 5.1 (Like the Incredibles) and movies with Dolby TRUEHD with Dolby Digital 5.1 (Like Iron Man) and neither lit up the DD light.

I know the DSS works because I get Dolby Digital with my xbox 360 and external hd-dvd drive and I get Dolby Digital on the PS3 with my games.

What am I doing wrong?
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:40 AM   #31
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I just got the earforce dss today for the primary purpose of using it for my blu-ray movies on the ps3. The problem I am having is that I can't get it to do Dolby Digital, it only does Pro Logic II no matter what movie or settings or set ups I try.

I've done ps3 -HDMI-> TV -TOSLINK-> DSS -3.5mm-> Headphones
and ps3 -TOSLINK-> DSS -3.5mm-> Headphones

I have my TV digital audio output set to Dolby Digital, the other option is PCM
I have tried the PS3 output as HDMI only, Optical Only and Multiple output and with all of those I set the PS3 to output Dolby Digital 5.1 along with the default PCM 2.0 44.1khz and 48khz

I have tried movies with DTS-MA with Dolby Digital 5.1 (Like the Incredibles) and movies with Dolby TRUEHD with Dolby Digital 5.1 (Like Iron Man) and neither lit up the DD light.

I know the DSS works because I get Dolby Digital with my xbox 360 and external hd-dvd drive and I get Dolby Digital on the PS3 with my games.

What am I doing wrong?
It sounds like you have the PS3 setup to output LPCM instead of Bitstream. While a movie is playing, hit <green arrow> to bring up the Control Panel OSD, then navigate to A/V Settings. From there, change the LPCM option to Bitstream. Otherwise, when the PS3 is set to LPCM it is doing the decoding and is thus not sending a Dolby Digital stream to the DSS module, which will trigger DPL on the DSS.

If that doesn't do it and you meant you enabled "Optical and Multiple Out" simultaneously, that might be the problem if you set HDMI first, then enabled Multi-Out. What this will do is make Optical "secondary" and will only send PCM 2.0 via the Optical port. Try setting it to Optical "only" (no Multi-Out) using manual configuration and of course enable the checkboxes for Dolby Digital and Dolby TrueHD.

Once you get it working make note that "Dolby Digital" will not be triggered on the DSS module when playing DTS and DTS-HD MA sources as the DSS module only has a Dolby decoder. You actually won't get any sound as a result so you will need to switch to LPCM and the DSS will only output DPL.

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Old 12-17-2011, 04:04 AM   #32
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I purchased the Sony Wireless headset a couple of weeks ago and am very happy with it. It's comfortable, easy to use, good battery life, can be recharged while being used, has crisp, clear sound and the surround sound is impressive. The only downside I can think of (for which I've heard they may fix via a patch) is that the surround sound only works for video games right now and not blu-ray, dvd or Netflix movies (you'll only get stereo sound). Still, for $100.00, I don't think you can do better.
You can watch movies off of an external HDD and listen to them via the headphones (and assumable movies saved on the PS3 HDD)... I do it all the time.
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Do the PX5 support surround for pc games and films.? I have a bunch of games and Im hoping I can get surround out of them. Also, what about films?
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Do the PX5 support surround for pc games and films.? I have a bunch of games and Im hoping I can get surround out of them. Also, what about films?
I would like to know that too. I have the PX5 but I mainly use it for my Xbox and PS3. My PC does not have an audio optical output but would like to get a new audio card and try my PX5 out on it.
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Old 12-17-2011, 06:59 AM   #35
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Well ended up getting the PX5's wasn't entirely my decision, it was an Xmas gift but I'm sure glad I got a headset
Cheers for the input guys
Congrats! i just Purchased mine as well and should be getting it today!

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I say you have chosen wisely. I bought my PX5 back in September and I am loving it. Sure it's $250 too much, but it's freak'n worth it.
Im glad some more praises are here for the PX5. I was worried for a sec. LOL

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Do the PX5 support surround for pc games and films.? I have a bunch of games and Im hoping I can get surround out of them. Also, what about films?
According to their site, it does support PC, you just need to have either a Optical Out, or buy the usb attachment that acts as a Optical Out port.
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Old 12-17-2011, 07:09 AM   #36
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oh yeah, i have a got a great sound card inbuilt so optical is no problem. just realised i need a step down transformer for it to work oh well, theyre only like $20. what about optical splitters (i want PS3 and PC connected via optical) any suggestions? powered or unpowered?
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oh yeah, i have a got a great sound card inbuilt so optical is no problem. just realised i need a step down transformer for it to work oh well, theyre only like $20. what about optical splitters (i want PS3 and PC connected via optical) any suggestions? powered or unpowered?
I honestly dont know. I don't think youd be able to use both at the same time, but i dont see why you could have some type of splitter.
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I honestly dont know. I don't think youd be able to use both at the same time, but i dont see why you could have some type of splitter.
not at the same time, it wouldnt work that way. only one can be on, its just easier than switching the cables around, although once a reorganise my setup, that would be a pain to do, just makes life easier
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not at the same time, it wouldnt work that way. only one can be on, its just easier than switching the cables around, although once a reorganise my setup, that would be a pain to do, just makes life easier
Yeah i hear you. Just find a splitter. it shouldn't be a problem

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Yeah i hear you. Just find a splitter. it should be a problem
should be a problem, WHAT?? i get you, yer, my store has the for like $10. just need a good transformer and im ready.
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