PS3 Units Sold??

[TruBlu2]

VG Chartz has it down tally of PS3 units sold to date---9.62mil

http://www.vgchartz.com/



Now this article has it at 10.5mil units to date:

http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_...31050609990006


So which one is right??? 9.62 or 10.5mil Or is the 10.5mil the number sold to stores and the 9.62mil is the number sold to consumers?

Which is it?

Based on the VG Chartz #'s, Sony should be able to sell 11mil units by the end of March. Don't you think?

[mightypen]

shipped to retailers, not sold to end users

and I would take that vgchartz number with a large grain of salt.

[Blu Blur]

Yes based on those numbers they should be able to hit 11 mill. (which I believe represent shipped units not total # sold to consumers) The problem comes in when you look at the other consoles installed bases with the Wii beign double the PS3's numbers based on these reports. The PS3 needs to have 10 mil units in the USA alone to improve it's chances this time around, Japan seems like it's starting to wake up and smell the scam/gimick of the Wii but the rest of the world seems to prefer overheating junk and games for the elderly. Sad really.....

[saprano]

Originally Posted by mightypen

shipped to retailers, not sold to end users

and I would take that vgchartz number with a large grain of salt.

come on there only off by maby 60,000...they were close with decembers npd numbers they had ps3 at 753,000 when it was really at 796,000. yes vg is always of, but they still give you a good idea thats console sales(wii,360,ps3) are around those's number's.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Blu Blur

Yes based on those numbers they should be able to hit 11 mill. (which I believe represent shipped units not total # sold to consumers) The problem comes in when you look at the other consoles installed bases with the Wii beign double the PS3's numbers based on these reports. The PS3 needs to have 10 mil units in the USA alone to improve it's chances this time around, Japan seems like it's starting to wake up and smell the scam/gimick of the Wii but the rest of the world seems to prefer overheating junk and games for the elderly. Sad really.....

dont forget europe, they love the platstation brand...did you know burnout paridice on ps3 outsold the 360 version over there? and the ps3 is on track to out sell 360 by this summer. at least sony gonna have one market locked down soon in the u.k ,time for rest of world to follow.

[Blu Blur]

Originally Posted by saprano

dont forget europe, they love the platstation brand...did you know burnout paridice on ps3 outsold the 360 version over there? and the ps3 is on track to out sell 360 by this summer. at least sony gonna have one market locked down soon in the u.k ,time for rest of world to follow.

Did it really? If so thats fantastic news, I would love to see M$ backed into a one territory corner and then slowly watch Sony take it away from them (meaning the US). As we all know Japan is lost to M$ and if Europe follows suit that would put the PS3 in a more favorable position for Developers to develop for it as the lead platform. Sadly I see no end in sight for the Wii's dominance (not this year anyway).

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Blu Blur

Did it really? If so thats fantastic news, I would love to see M$ backed into a one territory corner and then slowly watch Sony take it away from them (meaning the US). As we all know Japan is lost to M$ and if Europe follows suit that would put the PS3 in a more favorable position for Developers to develop for it as the lead platform. Sadly I see no end in sight for the Wii's dominance (not this year anyway).

yea the wii will always sell but does that really matter? i dont think so.. wii owners are mostly kids anyway, and you wont see any top 3rd party games on the wii ether. the way i see it the wii could sell 100 million consoles today and it would not affect the ps3 in anyway cause the wii is in its own market, the people that by the wii dont care or even know about those AAA games that sell on other consoles. i dont see wii as a problem, if it had the same power as ps3 at $250 with all the top 3rd party games, then sony would be big trouble. and with all those games coming this year for ps3, its gonna do just fine dont worry

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by mightypen

shipped to retailers, not sold to end users

and I would take that vgchartz number with a large grain of salt.

Why? People love to say this but never give a reason and suggest a better site. Until you give valid reasons, I'm much more inclined to take your personal opinion with a grain of salt. No offense, but random 3-post guy on a message board doesn't shout credibility to me.

From my observation, vg always ends up being pretty close to actual. Even if they aren't specifically accurate they are directionally correct.

[AranhaHunter]

Sony can definitely hit 11 million by March 31st, however their 11 million shipping forecast was for FY07 (April1st 2007 - March 31st 2008), not total

[cking2729]

If Sony launches a new kick ass model with a fair price at GDC, they could easily hit 11 million if it ships immediately. However, 11 million isn't even their target anymore -- they lowered it to 9ish while actually turning a profit.
Things are really looking up for the PS3, but don't tell the 360 flamers. They will go all jihad and stuff.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/01/31/...-makes-profit/

[Mastrodisastro]

VGChartz count sales items and all the other numbers are items distribited to retailers.

[Icemage]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

Why? People love to say this but never give a reason and suggest a better site. Until you give valid reasons, I'm much more inclined to take your personal opinion with a grain of salt. No offense, but random 3-post guy on a message board doesn't shout credibility to me.

From my observation, vg always ends up being pretty close to actual. Even if they aren't specifically accurate they are directionally correct.

VGChartz ends up being "close" quite often because they constantly adjust every time new figures are released; it's the clarity of hindsight. They have been off by quite large amounts in the past - the only reason their numbers look OK each time is because they go back and make adjustments to their "magic formula" for projection every time new numbers are released so that their data at least closely mimics reality in the past.

Their data on current sales is 100% conjecture, and should be treated with about as much respect as Amazon rankings - which is to say, not very much.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Icemage

VGChartz ends up being "close" quite often because they constantly adjust every time new figures are released; it's the clarity of hindsight. They have been off by quite large amounts in the past - the only reason their numbers look OK each time is because they go back and make adjustments to their "magic formula" for projection every time new numbers are released so that their data at least closely mimics reality in the past.

Their data on current sales is 100% conjecture, and should be treated with about as much respect as Amazon rankings - which is to say, not very much.

The question is how fast does that happen? Are their data for 5 weeks ago accurate? I'm trying more to look at trends so if I know their cleanup process goes back 2 weeks that's helpful to know.

[Icemage]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

The question is how fast does that happen? Are their data for 5 weeks ago accurate? I'm trying more to look at trends so if I know their cleanup process goes back 2 weeks that's helpful to know.

Their data is close to accurate whenever big "official" numbers get released - NPD, GfK, MediaCreate, etc.

Their trendlines and projections are all out of whack though. I remember at one point they had to adjust some of the numbers by hundreds of thousands of units after it turned out their projection was way off from what ended up getting officially released by NPD.

I wouldn't trust their weekly data for any region outside of Japan at all, and even Japan is only roughly approximate compared to what Famitsu and MediaCreate release.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

Why? People love to say this but never give a reason and suggest a better site. Until you give valid reasons, I'm much more inclined to take your personal opinion with a grain of salt. No offense, but random 3-post guy on a message board doesn't shout credibility to me.

From my observation, vg always ends up being pretty close to actual. Even if they aren't specifically accurate they are directionally correct.

Mostly alot of odd numbers that cropped up with their metrics for me.

It obvious gaff appears to have been normalized [at one fun point I remember the chart for PS3 sales in the US being < 200k until the last week of december, when it jumped to ~ 1mill, that's been normalized a bit thankfully , course now I can't recall the specifics of that instance either, so dismiss it].

To be honest, I'm realyl not too interested in their numbers [or the numbers as a whole] anymore, since well. the games speak for themself I think.

[ Add Edit ]
The period I was refering to above, was the 2006 launch frame.

[AranhaHunter]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

The question is how fast does that happen? Are their data for 5 weeks ago accurate? I'm trying more to look at trends so if I know their cleanup process goes back 2 weeks that's helpful to know.

I'll give you one example, Call of Duty 4 for both PS3 and 360 were "adjusted" by VG when NPD came out, VG originally had COD4 at about 1 mil for PS3 and at about 2.6 mil for 360 before adjustments, go check their numbers now....

[mightypen]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

Why? People love to say this but never give a reason and suggest a better site. Until you give valid reasons, I'm much more inclined to take your personal opinion with a grain of salt. No offense, but random 3-post guy on a message board doesn't shout credibility to me.

From my observation, vg always ends up being pretty close to actual. Even if they aren't specifically accurate they are directionally correct.

By all means, feel free to continue to believe a website which refuses to release its sampling methods/coverage.

[PS3ds]

Simple... one number is from real sources and the other (VGCHARTZ) is not.