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Old 02-01-2008, 11:54 PM   #1
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Greetings All,

I have my PS3 connected to my receiver via a digital optical cable. Under settings, I have BD/DVD Audio Output Format (HDMI) and BD Audio Format (Optical Digital)

What setting should I set these 2, Bitstream/Linear PCM?

I assume the HDMI format doesn't matter but wanted to ask anyway.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:07 AM   #2
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bitstream. pcm if mainly for true hd through hdmi
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:36 AM   #3
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bitstream. pcm if mainly for true hd through hdmi
He said that this is connected via OPTICAL CABLE! Therefore, the setting should be set to Bitstream in order to maximize the quality of the audio output. The Linear PCM option will only offer a better audio performance through an HDMI cable.

By the way, since you are connected via OPTICAL CABLE, don't bother choosing the PCM tracks on the film software for playback. You will only get stereo sound. I know, your response will be, "But it sounds like the rear speakers are active when I select the PCM track." I was the same way at first with my old 6.1 surround system. I learned later on that the receiver is essentially faking the back speakers using the signal from the front two speakers. There is no real isolation to those rear channels. It's mostly a balanced offering of the exact same sound through both rear speakers.
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Old 02-02-2008, 01:04 AM   #4
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By the way, since you are connected via OPTICAL CABLE, don't bother choosing the PCM tracks on the film software for playback. You will only get stereo sound.
Thanks but I can honestly tell you I wouldn't even know where to choose the PCM tracks on the film software for playback. Would that be on the BD main menu somewhere or am I way off by asking that?

I have 1 more question:

Under PS3 Sound Settings:
Audio Output Settings:
I selected Digital Out (optical) obviously

Do I check all boxes that are highlighted and can be checked?

Here's what I see:

Dolby Digital (Checkable)
DTS 5.1 Ch (Checkable)
AAC (Checkable)
Linear PCM 2 Ch. (44.1 kHz) (Not Checkable)
Linear PCM 2 Ch. (88.2 kHz) (Checkable But Becomes Uncheckable When I select 176.4)
Linear PCM 2 Ch. (176.4 kHz) (Checkable)
Linear PCM 2 Ch. (48 kHz) (Not Checkable)
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Old 02-02-2008, 02:38 AM   #5
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Here's what I see:

Dolby Digital (Checkable)
DTS 5.1 Ch (Checkable)
AAC (Checkable)
Linear PCM 2 Ch. (44.1 kHz) (Not Checkable)
Linear PCM 2 Ch. (88.2 kHz) (Checkable But Becomes Uncheckable When I select 176.4)
Linear PCM 2 Ch. (176.4 kHz) (Checkable)
Linear PCM 2 Ch. (48 kHz) (Not Checkable)
Thats all you can get with optical...let the ps3 select it for you (automatic), it should know what your receiver is capable of.
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Old 02-02-2008, 07:23 AM   #6
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I had the audio from my PS3 going throuh an optical cable when I first bought my PS3. I found 2ch PCM was a lot better than the Dolby Digital 5.1 sound track. I would have compare 2ch PCM to a DTS track.
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:15 AM   #7
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He said that this is connected via OPTICAL CABLE! Therefore, the setting should be set to Bitstream in order to maximize the quality of the audio output. The Linear PCM option will only offer a better audio performance through an HDMI cable.

By the way, since you are connected via OPTICAL CABLE, don't bother choosing the PCM tracks on the film software for playback. You will only get stereo sound. I know, your response will be, "But it sounds like the rear speakers are active when I select the PCM track." I was the same way at first with my old 6.1 surround system. I learned later on that the receiver is essentially faking the back speakers using the signal from the front two speakers. There is no real isolation to those rear channels. It's mostly a balanced offering of the exact same sound through both rear speakers.
isnt that what i said?! geeze
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isnt that what i said?! geeze
Ya, I guess so. At first read though it was ambiguous. In mentioning PCM via HDMI it sounded like you were suggeting he use the PCM instead. It was my differing perspective on the grammar of the post. Sorry. No offense intended.
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Old 02-03-2008, 07:39 AM   #9
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Ya, I guess so. At first read though it was ambiguous. In mentioning PCM via HDMI it sounded like you were suggeting he use the PCM instead. It was my differing perspective on the grammar of the post. Sorry. No offense intended.
nothing wrong with the grammar except a typo of if instead of is. it just seems too many people jump the gun way too often and blow for no reason. just because i mentiond hdmi doesnt mean i was suggesting it. i was trying to explain without going on and on with a big paragraph. seems clear enough with the first word and the period after it i was answering the question. this is why i dont like forums. way too much bashing

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nothing wrong with the grammar except a typo of if instead of is. it just seems too many people jump the gun way too often and blow for no reason. just because i mentiond hdmi doesnt mean i was suggesting it. i was trying to explain without going on and on with a big paragraph. seems clear enough with the first word and the period after it i was answering the question. this is why i dont like forums. way too much bashing
Overreact much? Where did anyone "blow" or bash anybody else?
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:46 PM   #11
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no i dont. and its not just this thread and the ignorant overreacting with my post in the first place. its all over. i read it here and else where just because someone disagrees with honest opinions or cant read in the first place the rudeness and attitude is sometimes too much to bear and immature.
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:50 PM   #12
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Thanks but I can honestly tell you I wouldn't even know where to choose the PCM tracks on the film software for playback. Would that be on the BD main menu somewhere or am I way off by asking that?
It's usually under the Setup or Languages and those menus usually provide an Audio selection. Access those from the main menu or pop-up menu.
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Old 02-03-2008, 05:24 PM   #13
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no i dont. and its not just this thread and the ignorant overreacting with my post in the first place. its all over. i read it here and else where just because someone disagrees with honest opinions or cant read in the first place the rudeness and attitude is sometimes too much to bear and immature.
So you take your displeasure for multiple instances out on Petra, who was neither rude or combative toward you? I think you need some thicker skin.

It bothers me when people can't form correct sentences or use correct punctuation, but I don't flip out.
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Thats all you can get with optical...let the ps3 select it for you (automatic), it should know what your receiver is capable of.
If audio/video is via HDMI, then the PS3 can do an autocheck. But not for optical.

1) Dolby Digital & DTS 5.1
Most new and old receivers (old as in DVD era and not laserdisc) have the option to process this. Check this box!

2) AAC
ONLY new receivers can handle this and NOT ALL have this ability. Basically it streams the AAC signal to the receiver so that the receiver can decode it. Check if applicable. If you don't know, read your receiver's manual.

3) Linear PCM 2 Ch. (44.1 kHz) (Not Checkable)
This is the standard sampling rate of audio CDs. So of course this is uncheckable.

4) Linear PCM 2 Ch. (88.2 kHz) (Checkable But Becomes Uncheckable When I select 176.4)
Some receivers have DACs (Digital Analog Converters) that can accept 88.2kHz signal via optical. I believe most new ones (3-4 years ago) do. 88.2 is twice the information as 44.1, if you noticed.

5)Linear PCM 2 Ch. (176.4 kHz) (Checkable)
Quite new and not many receivers have this as part of their DACs' specs. If your receiver has this ability and you check this box, all sampling rates BELOW IT is supported. That's why if you check this box, the 88.2 becomes uncheckable because by default it must be supported.

6) Linear PCM 2 Ch. (48 kHz) (Not Checkable)
This is the basic sampling rate for video so for playing DVDs and BD, this is the sampling rate used. 16-, 20- and 24- are additional bits of audio info for this type of signal.


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If audio/video is via HDMI, then the PS3 can do an autocheck. But not for optical.
ahhh. I did not know that. Thanks
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Hi In Relation to the above, I have my ps3 connecting to my sony htsf 1100 via hdmi, the audio and video appears to go through the hdmi(ie when i unplug the digital opitical cable there is no loss of sound)
in the settings i have set to hdmi and automatic, but yet it only choose the 2 linear pcm 2 channels settings to go forward and non of the rest of the massive list including the 5.1 lcm channels, surely it should be tick checking a couple of these aswell for the surround sound, and if not should i be doing this manually instead of using automatic.
please help
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Hi In Relation to the above, I have my ps3 connecting to my sony htsf 1100 via hdmi, the audio and video appears to go through the hdmi(ie when i unplug the digital opitical cable there is no loss of sound)
in the settings i have set to hdmi and automatic, but yet it only choose the 2 linear pcm 2 channels settings to go forward and non of the rest of the massive list including the 5.1 lcm channels, surely it should be tick checking a couple of these aswell for the surround sound, and if not should i be doing this manually instead of using automatic.
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youre HTIB is a passthrough system, meaning you will not get multichannel pcm.

Optical cable is your best option and just set it on bitstream.
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Hey guys,

I've got 2 problems:

(1) under the "A/V settings icon" on the pull up menu, the option of choosing PCM/Bitstream is gone??? am I smoking something
(2) so I quit out of the movie, and went into "BD/DVD settings" and clicked "bitstream" under "HDMI audio out" (I'm watching DieHard: DTS). When I put the movie back on...my receiver says PCM, not DTS??? WTF??!?!?!

anyone please help!!! THANKS!!
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Hey guys,

I've got 2 problems:

(1) under the "A/V settings icon" on the pull up menu, the option of choosing PCM/Bitstream is gone??? am I smoking something
(2) so I quit out of the movie, and went into "BD/DVD settings" and clicked "bitstream" under "HDMI audio out" (I'm watching DieHard: DTS). When I put the movie back on...my receiver says PCM, not DTS??? WTF??!?!?!

anyone please help!!! THANKS!!
is Die Hard bluray? or standard dvd?

...and what receiver?
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Die Hard blu-ray, and Onkyo SR604 receiver.

THANKS!
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