Why does it look better? - Blu-ray Forum

tonerone · 02-11-2008, 02:00 PM

Hi guys and gals, I have a small question. When I watch HD tv the picture is amazing. It's almost like 3d. The problem is when I watch a Blu-Ray disc it doesn't look much better then regular dvds. I have watched them on the samsung 1400 player and now I have the ps3. Is there some settings I need to change? I thought it would be breath taking on Blu. Movies I have watched are Kingdom of Heaven, Apocolypto and Siderman 3. I know my tv is not the problem since the HD channels look great. Any help would be great. Thanks

nhaase · 02-11-2008, 02:02 PM

Can you tell us some of your settings as they currently are. Also, it could be your TV. Are your video settings different on your HDTV input than for your Blu-ray input?

stockstar1138 · 02-11-2008, 02:06 PM

are you using an HDMI cable? and what resolution are your players set to output?

I think most people would agree on here that blu-ray looks much, much better than HD channels.

jonathan23 · 02-11-2008, 02:10 PM

If you are not using HDMI you will not get the full reslution. If you are not using HDMI get an HDMI cable right away.

nhaase · 02-11-2008, 02:15 PM

Yes, we will be able to help much more if we know how all your components are connected to your TV, for your blu-ray player and cable.

tron3 · 02-11-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jonathan23

If you are not using HDMI you will not get the full reslution. If you are not using HDMI get an HDMI cable right away.

Unless your TV takes HD component cable, as mine does.

tonerone · 02-11-2008, 02:22 PM

I have a Sony KDS-55A2000 tv and am using a HDMI cable with a PS3. Does that help?

4K2K · 02-13-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tonerone

I have a Sony KDS-55A2000 tv and am using a HDMI cable with a PS3. Does that help?

Are you comparing the same movies on Blu-ray to the same movies as broadcast on HDTV? Or are you watching something different on HDTV?

Cyorg · 02-13-2008, 10:03 PM

Wow... Just the opposite for me.

Blu-Beard · 02-13-2008, 10:14 PM

I don't even know what the problem could be, unless for some reason the ps3 is set to output at 720p. Go into your ps3 settings and make sure 1080p is check marked. I hope that's solves the problem 'cause if not I can't think of why HD broadcasts would look better than the Blu's that you mentioned.

jermwhl · 02-13-2008, 10:21 PM

Have you adjusted the PS3 from its default 480 setting? You have to tell the PS3 to play in 1080...by default it will play at 480.

Blu-Beard · 02-13-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jermwhl

Have you adjusted the PS3 from its default 480 setting? You have to tell the PS3 to play in 1080...by default it will play at 480.

Only if he had it hooked up to a SDTV before he hooked it up to the HDTV. Both of my ps3's detected the max res of my HDTV's when they were connected for the very first time.

steve1971 · 03-29-2008, 01:49 PM

Get a HDMI cable. That will be a big help.

LUkassZ · 03-29-2008, 05:23 PM

I know why your HDTV cable looks better than blu-rays. HD cable, like the grammy's, the night show, etc are shot with actual HD digital cameras. So you get that ridiculously crisp, sharp picture. Your blu-rays are shot on standard film, naturally, so they have a "film" look. Even though I love watching things like the grammys in HD, I couldn't imagine a full movie in Digital HD.

On a side note, you want the HD look you get from cable on a blu-ray? Buy a concert (dave matthews) or Planet Earth filmed with an HD digital camera.

Edit:after seeing the three movies you have seen on blu-ray, I think seeing cars, ratatioulle, or any pixar/disney animated film will work as well.

Deciazulado · 03-29-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LUkassZ

I know why your HDTV cable looks better than blu-rays. HD cable, like the grammy's, the night show, etc are shot with actual HD digital cameras. So you get that ridiculously crisp, sharp picture. Your blu-rays are shot on standard film, naturally, so they have a "film" look. Even though I love watching things like the grammys in HD, I couldn't imagine a full movie in Digital HD.

You are on the right track, but the crisp 'you are there' look has probably to do mostly with the HD TV shows being shot in 60i (or 30p) while movies are 24p (less motion)

Of course + their normaly usually hard edgy MTF curve vs transfers of film's sharpness curve which is usually softer (sloping down gentlyas detail increases)

john_1958 · 03-29-2008, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonerone

Hi guys and gals, I have a small question. When I watch HD tv the picture is amazing. It's almost like 3d. The problem is when I watch a Blu-Ray disc it doesn't look much better then regular dvds. I have watched them on the samsung 1400 player and now I have the ps3. Is there some settings I need to change? I thought it would be breath taking on Blu. Movies I have watched are Kingdom of Heaven, Apocolypto and Siderman 3. I know my tv is not the problem since the HD channels look great. Any help would be great. Thanks

are you using hdmi or components?

LUkassZ · 03-29-2008, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

You are on the right track, but the crisp 'you are there' look has probably to do mostly with the HD TV shows being shot in 60i (or 30p) while movies are 24p (less motion)

Of course + their normaly usually hard edgy MTF curve vs transfers of film's sharpness curve which is usually softer (sloping down gentlyas detail increases)

Yeah I don't know all the technical stuff, all I know is live TV shows, discovery channel, etc are generally shot with digital HD cameras and thats why they look the way they do. Other than that I'm not too knowledgeable about the subject.

Regardless I think this is the "difference" he is talking about and it has absolutely nothing to do with the settings, HDMI cable, etc he is using!

Quote:

Originally Posted by john_1958

are you using hdmi or components?

This really has nothing to do with the issue he is referring to.

jsteinhauer · 03-29-2008, 09:37 PM

First, is your display calbrated? Even the basic user calibration using DVE will make your BD movies much better.

When I first got my HDTV and BD player, I spent the first several weeks in awe of the "3D" sensation and the vivid colors. But the novelty wore off. The picture really shouldn't look that way, and when properly calibrated, the pictures look like they should. Contrast, inaccurate colors, edge enhancement and other features of the display give those unnatural appearances to the image.

Gamma_Winstead · 03-29-2008, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUkassZ

Yeah I don't know all the technical stuff, all I know is live TV shows, discovery channel, etc are generally shot with digital HD cameras and thats why they look the way they do. Other than that I'm not too knowledgeable about the subject.

Regardless I think this is the "difference" he is talking about and it has absolutely nothing to do with the settings, HDMI cable, etc he is using!

This really has nothing to do with the issue he is referring to.

yeah it does. if your PS3 is hooked up with component cables it WILL look worse than the HDtv channels. Try Crank or I, Robot.

KenThompson · 03-30-2008, 12:10 AM

I have the same tv and I use the Sony BDP S1 bd player and let me tell you its no contest between broadcast tv and BD. You need to check all your settings.

02-11-2008, 02:00 PM	#1
tonerone Junior Member Member since:Feb 2008	Why does it look better? Hi guys and gals, I have a small question. When I watch HD tv the picture is amazing. It's almost like 3d. The problem is when I watch a Blu-Ray disc it doesn't look much better then regular dvds. I have watched them on the samsung 1400 player and now I have the ps3. Is there some settings I need to change? I thought it would be breath taking on Blu. Movies I have watched are Kingdom of Heaven, Apocolypto and Siderman 3. I know my tv is not the problem since the HD channels look great. Any help would be great. Thanks

03-29-2008, 05:23 PM	#14
LUkassZ Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	I know why your HDTV cable looks better than blu-rays. HD cable, like the grammy's, the night show, etc are shot with actual HD digital cameras. So you get that ridiculously crisp, sharp picture. Your blu-rays are shot on standard film, naturally, so they have a "film" look. Even though I love watching things like the grammys in HD, I couldn't imagine a full movie in Digital HD. On a side note, you want the HD look you get from cable on a blu-ray? Buy a concert (dave matthews) or Planet Earth filmed with an HD digital camera. Edit:after seeing the three movies you have seen on blu-ray, I think seeing cars, ratatioulle, or any pixar/disney animated film will work as well. Last edited by LUkassZ; 03-29-2008 at 05:26 PM.

02-11-2008, 02:02 PM	#2
nhaase Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Trading Score:2	Can you tell us some of your settings as they currently are. Also, it could be your TV. Are your video settings different on your HDTV input than for your Blu-ray input?

02-11-2008, 02:06 PM	#3
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	are you using an HDMI cable? and what resolution are your players set to output? I think most people would agree on here that blu-ray looks much, much better than HD channels.

02-11-2008, 02:10 PM	#4
jonathan23 New Member Member since:Feb 2008	If you are not using HDMI you will not get the full reslution. If you are not using HDMI get an HDMI cable right away.

02-11-2008, 02:15 PM	#5
nhaase Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Trading Score:2	Yes, we will be able to help much more if we know how all your components are connected to your TV, for your blu-ray player and cable.

02-11-2008, 02:22 PM	#7
tonerone Junior Member Member since:Feb 2008	I have a Sony KDS-55A2000 tv and am using a HDMI cable with a PS3. Does that help?

02-13-2008, 10:03 PM	#9
Cyorg Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:San Antonio, TX. PSN ID: Cyorg Blu-ray collection:62 Blu-ray reviews:1	Wow... Just the opposite for me.

02-13-2008, 10:14 PM	#10
Blu-Beard Banned Member since:Jan 2008	I don't even know what the problem could be, unless for some reason the ps3 is set to output at 720p. Go into your ps3 settings and make sure 1080p is check marked. I hope that's solves the problem 'cause if not I can't think of why HD broadcasts would look better than the Blu's that you mentioned.

02-13-2008, 10:21 PM	#11
jermwhl Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Virginia	Have you adjusted the PS3 from its default 480 setting? You have to tell the PS3 to play in 1080...by default it will play at 480.

03-29-2008, 01:49 PM	#13
steve1971 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Saint Paul Minnesota. 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:352 Blu-ray reviews: 119 Trading Score:1	Get a HDMI cable. That will be a big help.

03-29-2008, 09:37 PM	#18
jsteinhauer Gaming Moderator Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray reviews:120 Trading Score:66	First, is your display calbrated? Even the basic user calibration using DVE will make your BD movies much better. When I first got my HDTV and BD player, I spent the first several weeks in awe of the "3D" sensation and the vivid colors. But the novelty wore off. The picture really shouldn't look that way, and when properly calibrated, the pictures look like they should. Contrast, inaccurate colors, edge enhancement and other features of the display give those unnatural appearances to the image.

03-30-2008, 12:10 AM	#20
KenThompson Power Member Member since:Sep 2006 Location:B.C. Canada	I have the same tv and I use the Sony BDP S1 bd player and let me tell you its no contest between broadcast tv and BD. You need to check all your settings.

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