Did Universal resent Sony because of UMD?

[Papi4baby]

Could it be because they were upset or mad at sony because of the UMD movie thing tanking? I was watching an older Universal DVD and i saw lots of comercials for new movies by Universal coming to DVD and UMD?

So do you guys think that maybe that's why they sided with Toshiba from the begining?

[Proteus]

Nothing to do with UMD.

Everything to do with Microsoft.

NBC/Universal has had a long standing relationship with Microsoft that has led them to make a lot of bad decisions. HDDVD being one of them. Removing their product from the iTunes store another.

By being Microsoft's patsy, they have shown the universe how stupid they really are in business and marketing. I guess you could say they've accomplished this quite 'universally' as their company is frowned upon by Wall Street now as well.

[WickyWoo]

Could it be because they were upset or mad at sony because of the UMD movie thing tanking? I was watching an older Universal DVD and i saw lots of comercials for new movies by Universal coming to DVD and UMD?

So do you guys think that maybe that's why they sided with Toshiba from the begining?

Absolutely not, I don't even think Uni jumped on that bandwagon until after the initial successes in the software drought

[Sonny]

Uni's head guy Ken G. (or what ever ) said may times that they would never "press" Blu-ray Disc's. Now that F**KER has to eat his own words

[Papi4baby]

Wow, i didn't know they were in hot water with wallstreet too. I know GE is been getting alot of flack lately because of contracts with other countries(suspicious states) and them pretty much not carring.

[dwil80]

I work for GE and I'm not sure if this has any bearing at all, but on the nuclear side of the business which is where i work we have a joint venture with Toshiba to develop new products. Since Universal is owned by GE, that may be some of the reasons for initially going with HD DVD.

[DAMNSAM77]

Originally Posted by Sonny

Uni's head guy Ken G. (or what ever ) said may times that they would never "press" Blu-ray Disc's. Now that F**KER has to eat his own words

its called eath crow! hope you like your vegetables Graffeo!!!

[Horhay]

That jack*** Ken Graffeo must be squirming in his damn office afraid to show his face after so much he has said! I bet you won't hear from the guy until Uni jumps ship!

[BluWave]

Universal sucks! Thgats why they are always mentioned second in this format war! I could give two f@#%'s if they ever press a BD!

[Papi4baby]

Originally Posted by dwil80

I work for GE and I'm not sure if this has any bearing at all, but on the nuclear side of the business which is where i work we have a joint venture with Toshiba to develop new products. Since Universal is owned by GE, that may be some of the reasons for initially going with HD DVD.

We have a GE Turbine where i work, the other is WH the GE one makes more power, but it was a bit more expesive, something to do with a MONOBLOCK design for the turbine blades and blade stators

[workshed108]

Originally Posted by Proteus

Nothing to do with UMD.

Everything to do with Microsoft.

NBC/Universal has had a long standing relationship with Microsoft that has led them to make a lot of bad decisions. HDDVD being one of them. Removing their product from the iTunes store another.

By being Microsoft's patsy, they have shown the universe how stupid they really are in business and marketing. I guess you could say they've accomplished this quite 'universally' as their company is frowned upon by Wall Street now as well.

Link indicating any of this or this pure speculation?

[kibbled_bits]

Originally Posted by Proteus

Nothing to do with UMD.

Everything to do with Microsoft.

NBC/Universal has had a long standing relationship with Microsoft that has led them to make a lot of bad decisions. HDDVD being one of them. Removing their product from the iTunes store another.

By being Microsoft's patsy, they have shown the universe how stupid they really are in business and marketing. I guess you could say they've accomplished this quite 'universally' as their company is frowned upon by Wall Street now as well.

Well said. Anyone that has worked with Microsoft employees or zealots can completely relate to what you are talking about. I interviewed with a consultant company who admitted that he had to take his Palm off his belt before entering their campus or they would look and him like some sort of weirdo.

The place is much like a cult.

[blu reality]

I hope some of higher ups at Paramount and Universal are fired over this.

Paramount the most because of the bribe.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by blu reality

I hope some of higher ups at Paramount and Universal are fired over this.

Paramount the most because of the bribe.

Firing them would be doing them a favor! They always get golden parachutes even when they run the company into the dirt. CEO's must be covered with Slick 50 or something. They always land on their feet and get another job. Often a better paying one! Why their past seldom seems to follow them is beyond me.

Want to punish them? Keep them employed. Let them face the humiliation of facing their corporate peers every day knowing what a botch job they did. On the other hand, trust in their ability to lead is shot. Fire them.

[HeavyHitter]

Kenny Graffiti looks like a bigger ass as each day goes by (even if he's paid to look like an ass) - no wonder he's not returning calls. I just can't see Universal keeping him around for Blu-ray - but who knows.

[owa]

Originally Posted by workshed108

Link indicating any of this or this pure speculation?

It (the Uni / MS relationship) is alluded to in one of the insiders thread. I think it was Maxpower's thread. Not phrased quite the same though.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by Sonny

Uni's head guy Ken G. (or what ever ) said may times that they would never "press" Blu-ray Disc's. Now that F**KER has to eat his own words

Can't wait to see what those clowns have to say now. Ken G. and Kornblau (whatever) just shut up and release in blu-ray. BTW gives us some good encodes and not that crap that they have been releasing on most of the HD DVD titles.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by horhay2313

That jack*** Ken Graffeo must be squirming in his damn office afraid to show his face after so much he has said! I bet you won't hear from the guy until Uni jumps ship!

I don't want to hear sh*t from Graffeo. He has to go. Fired.

Graffeo has to go. Good chant. Has a nice ring to it.

[spam.curitiba]

lol

[marzetta7]

Originally Posted by Proteus

Nothing to do with UMD.

Everything to do with Microsoft.

NBC/Universal has had a long standing relationship with Microsoft that has led them to make a lot of bad decisions. HDDVD being one of them. Removing their product from the iTunes store another.

By being Microsoft's patsy, they have shown the universe how stupid they really are in business and marketing. I guess you could say they've accomplished this quite 'universally' as their company is frowned upon by Wall Street now as well.

I agree. Especially when we saw the deals of Microsoft providing online content for Universal...kind of made the whole picture quite clear.