Night of the Living Dead (1990) - Out of Print

[bboisvert]

Originally Posted by lcummins

Also, keep in mind the Criterion is owned by Image Entertainment and really isn't a "small" independent label like Twilight Time.


http://www.image-entertainment.com/all-brands

Unless something has changed in the past few years, Image doesn't own Criterion. They're exclusive distributors of their titles, but Criterion is still an independent company.

[lcummins]

Originally Posted by bboisvert

Unless something has changed in the past few years, Image doesn't own Criterion. They're exclusive distributors of their titles, but Criterion is still an independent company.

Ah! I see... so what Image calls "brands", are not owned by them but just distributed? I did not know that. Thanks for the clarification.

[klauswhereareyou]

Obviously this thing would've been in some kind of dump bin by this point if it was a transfer that most people thought looked bad. That's why if I look at dump bin movies I make sure I know if the transfer is good before I purchase it, because I know a crap transfer may be one reason it's in the dump bin. No such luxury on a movie you basically have to purchase as a pre-order before you know what it looks like.

[Yojimbo68]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

Obviously this thing would've been in some kind of dump bin by this point if it was a transfer that most people thought looked bad. That's why if I look at dump bin movies I make sure I know if the transfer is good before I purchase it, because I know a crap transfer may be one reason it's in the dump bin. No such luxury on a movie you basically have to purchase as a pre-order before you know what it looks like.

So true! If NOTLD90 had an original retail of say $20 bucks and then went down to $10, people would still be upset about the transfer. However, I think it's the price tag that really fuels the fire on this thread. For $35 bucks expectations are higher.

[KenHurd]

Originally Posted by sheldo

It would of been much better had they removed the choir of birds from these scenes!

That may be easier said than done. If the birds were captured during production, they would have to ADR all of the scenes that feature the birds chirping. This would have required getting Tony Todd, Patricia Tallman, Bill Mosley, and either the actors playing the zombies or some new voice actors in to overdub the zombies. Now, after 20 years, these actors don't sound exactly like they did back then, so it would have been more noticeable. Also, not only would the voices have to be overdubbed, but all of the sound effects, Foley, ambience, everything would have had to have been recreated. All of this would have cost a lot of money and may have not even sound as good as it does with the birds in place.

However, depending on the severity of the birds chirping - the birds didn't distract me when I watched it the other day, so I would have to go back and listen again to see when they chirp - it would have been possible to remove some of it and just move audio ambience around. But again, if it's over a sound effect, piece of dialogue, or anything that we need to hear, it becomes increasingly more difficult. I could be wrong, but weren't crickets added to the mix? I thought I heard them during this "transition to dusk" sequence. Whether or not crickets were in the original mix, I don't know. I haven't watched my DVD copy in at least 10 years.

[klauswhereareyou]

Has there been an actual official response from the guy that decided to make it blue??? I mean, if it's intended what was the reasoning of turning what were scenes of late afternoon into basically early evening? I mean if you could get away with it fine, but when your audio track, and then a shot of the moon coming up after it has become evening is bringing your film into Plan 9 From Outer Space Territory. Twilight Time didn't do it, but imagine (though this will probably never happen) they got their hands on Salems' Lot (1979). Remember the end sequence where it's late afternoon when Ben Mears arrives to take out the head Vampire. Well imagine now if it is dark, and then you have the scene later where the sun is going down. It just makes the filmmaking look incompetent, when originally it wasn't. I'd be one of those people that would love for Salem's Lot to come out on blu ray, but if something like that was done to it, I'd think it was preaty darn stupid and would ruin the movie.

[Lemmy Lugosi]

Originally Posted by HyperRealist

everybody that says they will never order from TT again will be first in line to order Christine.

I give you a $10,000 (payable directly to you) guarantee that I'll never support TT again in any way, shape, or form. And I'll continue to advise others to follow suit.

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

Has there been an actual official response from the guy that decided to make it blue??? I mean, if it's intended what was the reasoning of turning what were scenes of late afternoon into basically early evening? I mean if you could get away with it fine, but when your audio track, and then a shot of the moon coming up after it has become evening is bringing your film into Plan 9 From Outer Space Territory. Twilight Time didn't do it, but imagine (though this will probably never happen) they got their hands on Salems' Lot (1979). Remember the end sequence where it's late afternoon when Ben Mears arrives to take out the head Vampire. Well imagine now if it is dark, and then you have the scene later where the sun is going down. It just makes the filmmaking look incompetent, when originally it wasn't. I'd be one of those people that would love for Salem's Lot to come out on blu ray, but if something like that was done to it, I'd think it was preaty darn stupid and would ruin the movie.

Klaus understands perfectly. Thank you for another voice of reason.

[Whirlygig]

Originally Posted by whitesheik

And then there are the thousands upon thousands of rabid Back to the Future fans who will swear to you on a stack of Bibles that they saw the "To be continued" card in the original showings of the film.

...non-sequitur? Nobody is disputing that people can have hazy/false memories about things. They are disputing a specific film here (hint: not BTTF), with plenty of evidence to support the fact that it has been altered.

Originally Posted by BluRayFiend

An those that do seem to have proper calibration really don't have a problem with the disc an they acknowledge that yes their is a slight color change .

Nice post, one issue, I don't recall it being characterized as slight by those people...just not bothersome to them personally. The LOTR color fighting, the Raiders color fighting, even the French Connection fighting -- this change is a horse of an entirely different color not only in its degree but also in the way it violates the story flow.

Originally Posted by deltasun

I don't fully rely on screencaps, but they do serve a purpose. EE and DNR can still be gauged with screencaps. Perhaps not the exact degree, but enough to make some good judgment usually.

Missed this yesterday. Yep, they can be useful, if you know how to use them. But enough people apparently don't that they should not be making their judgments only from viewing them on a computer screen.

The following is not for you deltasun...its for those over the past few pages who are still talking about darkness of screenshots.

Originally Posted by Whirlygig

Video IQ Test
Developed by the United States Technological & Operational Outreach Program for the Institute of Design.
Sponsored by the living dead.

Question:

Which of the following sets of images are darker?





Answer:

Click to reveal:

[Show spoiler]If you said A or B, find a new hobby. There is no difference.

[klauswhereareyou]

If you have to change your televisions settings for one film to look correct, that's not a problem with your television, it's a problem with the blu rays picture. Rememember when Arachnophobia was recently recalled because it was too bright. Originally people were saying before the recall to just bring the brightness down on your TV, and it looks okay, but Disney did a recall. Why was that? Was it maybe that they knew that it's unacceptable for someone to have to change their entire settings for just one blu ray because it doesn't look right, yet every other blu ray you watch does look right.

[beadelf]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

If you have to change your televisions settings for one film to look correct, that's not a problem with your television, it's a problem with the blu rays picture. Rememember when Arachnophobia was recently recalled because it was too bright. Originally people were saying before the recall to just bring the brightness down on your TV, and it looks okay, but Disney did a recall. Why was that? Was it maybe that they knew that it's unacceptable for someone to have to change their entire settings for just one blu ray because it doesn't look right, yet every other blu ray you watch does look right.

that of course is a valid point. I will watch mine tonight. isnt this director approved though?

[klauswhereareyou]

Originally Posted by beadelf

that of course is a valid point. I will watch mine tonight. isnt this director approved though?

Yes it's "director approved." As in the director apparently saw it just the other day on blu ray and thought it looked good. Of course no one knows what kind of condition he was in while watching it.

I have to fiddle with some old DVDs and standard def video game systems all the time to make them presentable on my HD TV. That I understand because they are things that weren't made with an HD TV in mind. If it's a brand new blu ray coming out though, come on, if you've got to screw around with your tv settings to get one movie to look decent there's something wrong with the transfer, not your TVs calibration. That or the blu ray you're screwing with your tv to get it to look okay must be the most perfect representation of of what a calibrated TV should look like, but I doubt it with this film.

[benricci]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

Yes it's "director approved." As in the director apparently saw it just the other day on blu ray and thought it looked good. Of course no one knows what kind of condition he was in while watching it.

LOL - love it! This thread just keeps piling on the ridiculousness. Now we're insinuating Tom Savini's drunk or high!

You guys crack me up.

[Lemmy Lugosi]

Originally Posted by benricci

LOL - love it! This thread just keeps piling on the ridiculousness. Now we're insinuating Tom Savini's drunk or high!

You guys crack me up.

Nah, he's just very greedy.

[klauswhereareyou]

Nah not drunk or high, but maybe he just drank a really good Coca Cola Classic!

[beadelf]

Originally Posted by benricci

LOL - love it! This thread just keeps piling on the ridiculousness. Now we're insinuating Tom Savini's drunk or high!

You guys crack me up.

that made me smile! The condition he was in????? hahahahah seriously anyone that dislikes there blu's get rid of them now. right away what you waiting for.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by beadelf

that made me smile! The condition he was in????? hahahahah seriously anyone that dislikes there blu's get rid of them now. right away what you waiting for.

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[bigdaddyhorse]

Originally Posted by benricci

LOL - love it! This thread just keeps piling on the ridiculousness. Now we're insinuating Tom Savini's drunk or high!

You guys crack me up.

He was blind when he watched it, it's the only reason he could say "it looked beautiful". I think if this were my film I'd see the new colors and ask "WTF happened and who did this"! Tom should outraged, he comments of "beautiful" floor me.

[filmmusic]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

Yes it's "director approved." As in the director apparently saw it just the other day on blu ray and thought it looked good. Of course no one knows what kind of condition he was in while watching it.

If I were the director, and this thing was released without request of my approval, and then they sent it to look it over after all this fuss, and I said "that's ok", that would mean that i don't give a damn about my original creation!
but that's me..

[beadelf]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

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[Retroj23]