The Hobbit Trilogy Discussion Thread

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Fixed it for you.

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well yeah....

but the way Tolkein described the mountain the 1st time bilbo saw it in the book got me really excited for the movie.

i'm sure WETA isn't going to disappoint.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by supersix4

When I think talking dragons I think of puff the magic dragon.

I think of Richard "Have Gun Will Travel" Boone's badass voice from the Rankin-Bass cartoon, but we'll probably get nothing anywhere near it.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by EricJ

I think of Richard "Have Gun Will Travel" Boone's badass voice from the Rankin-Bass cartoon, but we'll probably get nothing anywhere near it.

I'd have rather seen that dude from the 3rd LOTR movie who was riding the dragon thing and got stabbed by the chick be the villain he was another one with a bad ass look

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

well yeah....

but the way Tolkein described the mountain the 1st time bilbo saw it in the book got me really excited for the movie.

i'm sure WETA isn't going to disappoint.

I read The Hobbit a year ago and have completely forgotten how that passage was discribed.

But yea, I am sure that first shot of it will be a site to behold.

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[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by supersix4

I'd have rather seen that dude from the 3rd LOTR movie who was riding the dragon thing and got stabbed by the chick be the villain he was another one with a bad ass look

That is a very real possibility. As Jackson is taking the LotRs appendix and using it to fill the three movies. Plus there was a hint of him and his buddies mentioned in one of the early trailers.

You may just get your wish.

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[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

I read The Hobbit a year ago and have completely forgotten how that passage was discribed.

But yea, I am sure that first shot of it will be a site to behold.

I’m sure I just built up the description in my mind. but now that we’ve been talking about it, I’ll be looking for the passage 2nite after I get home.

[blakeyamc]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

I’m sure I just built up the description in my mind. but now that we’ve been talking about it, I’ll be looking for the passage 2nite after I get home.

"And far away, its dark head in a torn cloud, there loomed the Mountain! Its nearest neighbours to the North-East and the tumbled land that joined it to them could not be seen. All alone it rose and looked across the marshes to the forest. The Lonely Mountain! Bilbo had come far and through many adventures to see it, and now he did not like the look of it in the least."

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[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

That is a very real possibility. As Jackson is taking the LotRs appendix and using it to fill the three movies. Plus there was a hint of him and his buddies mentioned in one of the early trailers.

You may just get your wish.

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i wish - YouTube

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by blakeyamc

"And far away, its dark head in a torn cloud, there loomed the Mountain! Its nearest neighbours to the North-East and the tumbled land that joined it to them could not be seen. All alone it rose and looked across the marshes to the forest. The Lonely Mountain! Bilbo had come far and through many adventures to see it, and now he did not like the look of it in the least."

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Can you just picture/hear Howard Shore's score to this very scene?

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[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by blakeyamc

"And far away, its dark head in a torn cloud, there loomed the Mountain! Its nearest neighbours to the North-East and the tumbled land that joined it to them could not be seen. All alone it rose and looked across the marshes to the forest. The Lonely Mountain! Bilbo had come far and through many adventures to see it, and now he did not like the look of it in the least."

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There it is!! thanks man!!

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Can you just picture/hear Howard Shore's score to this very scene?

[blakeyamc]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

There it is!! thanks man!!

You are welcome. I am just disappointed we have to wait till Dec 2013 to see this scene come to life, as it was one of my favorite descriptions from the book, as well.

[Duffy12]

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While the middle of Middle-earth prepares the red carpet for the world-wide premiere we get a preview of what it is possible to reveal without breaking the spell of a very special occasion.

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey might be getting its world premiere in Wellington tonight but the movie has already been shown to local and international media so they can ask Sir Peter Jackson, his cast and crew their questions about the movie.

Studio Warner Bros made all media sign an embargo insisting no one runs reviews of the film - or tweets any thoughts - until next week when initial screenings are held in the US.

So while Herald Entertainment Editor Russell Baillie saw the movie last night, he's unable to give an opinion about it until the embargo expires.

Instead, he offers this tally of facts gleened from last night's screening ... and yes the usual spoiler alert applies.

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Approximate length of the film.
Counting nearly 10 minutes of end credits, about two and three quarter hours.

What's the opening scene.
A flash forward to a time before the start of The Lord of the Rings when Bilbo Baggins (as played by Ian Holm) is telling his nephew Frodo (Elijah Wood) about his past adventures.

How far into the book does it get?
To the end of chapter six, the one entitled Out of the Frying Pan and Into the Fire, more or less.

How many laugh-out-loud moments, judging by the reaction of the media audience?
At least 10.

How many times do the dwarfs burst into song?
The dwarfs twice. Neil Finn once at the end as those end credits roll.

How many big action scenes?
A dozen or so.

How many big action scenes involving monsters?
Not all of them. One involves a sleigh pulled by rabbits. Which are later chased by monsters.

How many times does Gollum say "preciousssss ..."
Approximately 12 or so which is down from 17 in The Return of the King (a fact gleaned from the Air New Zealand in-flight quiz on the flight to Wellington).

How many significant wideshots of New Zealand landscapes.
One at least every 10 minutes. Which is quite a lot.

Number of significant wideshots of NZ landscapes featuring a specially painted airliner.
None.

How much younger do those Lord of the Rings characters look in this prequel.
A little, but given their characters' fantasy world lifespans it's hard to tell. Among those playing their younger selves are Sir Ian McKellen as Gandalf, Cate Blanchett as Galadriel, Hugo Weaving as Elrond, Christopher Lee as Saruman and the aforementioned brief return of a younger Frodo.

Any cameos or other significant walk-on parts?
Bret McKenzie of Flight of the Conchords gets a couple of lines as an elf having had little to say when he played another elf in The Lord of the Rings trilogy. If there was the traditional Peter Jackson cameo, it wasn't obvious.

Who was the biggest character?
Not counting the Stone Giants and the three trolls, it would have to be the Goblin King voiced by Barry Humphries. And you thought his Dame Edna was larger than life ...

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[Duffy12]

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Another tweet-

Alex Boultwood ‏@Direlogue

@brendonconnelly 48fps isn't for me, although it makes the creature effects esp. Gollum look stunning

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[bunkz323]

Can't wait to watch this in 48fps,they will be showing it near me. hopefully it doesn't ruining the movie experience (fingers crossed)

[blakeyamc]

Originally Posted by bunkz323

Can't wait to watch this in 48fps,they will be showing it near me. hopefully it doesn't ruining the movie experience (fingers crossed)

I don't think you'll have to worry, because you are seeing it in 3D at 48FPS. Which is going to be better than 3D at 24FPS.

If you were to see it in 2D at 48FPS, that may be a different story.

Why people are up in arms over 48fps, in 3D, is beyond me. Once, you are watching it in 3D, it shouldn't matter what frame rate it's in, as long as it's immersive and helps with the 3D effect.

[Duffy12]

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Some new GORGEOUS HD pics-

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[bunkz323]

Originally Posted by blakeyamc

I don't think you'll have to worry, because you are seeing it in 3D at 48FPS. Which is going to be better than 3D at 24FPS.

If you were to see it in 2D at 48FPS, that may be a different story.

Why people are up in arms over 48fps, in 3D, is beyond me. Once, you are watching it in 3D, it shouldn't matter what frame rate it's in, as long as it's immersive and helps with the 3D effect.

So, there not showing the 48fps on 2D???
i wasn't really trying to watch it in 3D

I seen it was Imax but didn't think it was 3D did not check

[blakeyamc]

Originally Posted by bunkz323

So, there not showing the 48fps on 2D???
i wasn't really trying to watch it in 3D

I seen it was Imax but didn't think it was 3D did not check

Yep. HFR (48 FPS) is only available in 3D. That's why this whole controversy of the higher frame rate, makes no sense.

[supersix4]

anyone else think the backgrounds in some of those scans look majorly fake reminds me of like 40s/50s films.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by supersix4

anyone else think the backgrounds in some of those scans look majorly fake reminds me of like 40s/50s films.