Xbox 360 Version 2: Zephyr

[fragglerock585]

Originally Posted by victorvondoom88

I for one can't wait until blu-ray puts the final nails in the coffin of HD-DVD and I hope like hell they will prevent microsoft on using blu-ray in the xbox consoles for a long time.

To be honest, Id love to see a BD equipped 360. I hope they ship it with wireless and a side of crow. And the price should be 649, 599 if you eat the crow.

More BD players = further market domination. Somebody call the smithsonian to set up a HD-DUD display, right next to the biplane.

[victorvondoom88]

More BD players = further market domination. Somebody call the smithsonian to set up a HD-DUD display, right next to the biplane

Lets be fair at least the biplane was a success I actually rode in one last spring it flew and everything

Also one second thought I suppose it would be cool knowing that microcrap had to pay sony for the bd technology.

[JTK]

I just got the latest issue of Game Informer, April 2007.

Being that it's the April issue I have to halfway wonder if this is an April Fools Joke, but basically they have a two page spread "confirming" the release of this new Xbox by the end of April. It's a black Xbox 360 with HDMI and a 120 gig hard drive.

I was pleasantly surprised with how critical of MS this issue was in general, on several points. First they start right in the editorial with how dollars for MS points is just like the old day carnie scams. I couldn't agree with them more. Just make it all straight up cash where people can use their credit cards to buy what they want and don't want.

They also had another article in there where an MS person was fudging on the point of how MS is restricting a lot of potential free content that could be over Live because, of course, they want to bleed customers for as much money as they can.

Anyways, it's pages 18 and 19 of the new April 2007 issue of Game Informer.

Here's one item from the story that I couldn't believe I actually saw. An MS employee pretty much admitting that they really aren't that confident in HD-DVD at all.

...According to a source at MS, high definition movie playbac is being withheld from the 360 because "the format is not proven." Despite the fact that it was first to market, the HD-DVD format is being outsold by competitor Blu-Ray. The PS3 comes with a BD player as standard while MS is selling an add-on HD-DVD player for $199.99.

I also couldn't agree more with this editorial comment that was attached to this story:

It's a shame we all bought the supposed "premium" Xbox 360 already, but the extra space is very welcome for multimedia purposes. HDMI isn't too huge, but at least it'll give Sony one less PS3 stat to brag about.

As far as the price tag for 120 GB goes, what a rip-off!

In two minutes online, I found a 500GB PC hard drive for around the same price.

Plus when you add the price of an HD-DVD drive to this black box, you're looking at $680.

Suddenly the PS3 doesn't seem so overpriced.

Amen.


http://www.gamespot.com/news/rumorco...=subnav;rumors

Read this as well.

[Rio]

...According to a source at MS, high definition movie playbac is being withheld from the 360 because "the format is not proven." Despite the fact that it was first to market, the HD-DVD format is being outsold by competitor Blu-Ray. The PS3 comes with a BD player as standard while MS is selling an add-on HD-DVD player for $199.99.

It would be immediately "proven", if M$ stopped supporting certain "format"

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Rio

It would be immediately "proven", if M$ stopped supporting certain "format"

I figured folks would get a quick chuckle out of that obvious irony/hypocrisy/paradox/whatever folks want to call it.

[Nismobeach]

Originally Posted by JTK

I figured folks would get a quick chuckle out of that obvious irony/hypocrisy/paradox/whatever folks want to call it.

Agreed.

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by victorvondoom88

All the 360 fans should read this thread. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=5445
It cracks me up at all the threads about dead 360's even over at the xbox forums. Though they try allot harder to rationalize the problems.

I with 2 of my friends also have an Xbox 360 since it came out and we haven't had a problem yet.

I'm going to have to also agree with kiddtigger, right now I like more Xbox 360 games than Playstation 3 games. Before I get slam by comments I said right now.

RFOM is currently the only game I might buy for the PS3 right now. I’ll find out in April when I try it out when I visit my friends.

Motorstorm looks great, but not my type of game, plus I don’t care for racing and sports games.

360 vs. PS3 Oblivion games (Xbox 360 wins this round)- I already have it for the 360. True PS3 Oblivion looks a little better, load time is little bit faster, but there’s nothing that would make me buy it again. Knights of the nine is included with PS3, but I already downloaded that and 7 other add-ons, plus I’ll be downloading the next add on when it’s release.
Right nowBethesda Softworks isn’t even sure if they’re going to release these downloads for the PS3.

Menu systems, I like Xbox 360 a little be more, plus I like the Xbox 360 achievements

System- Hands down the PS3 is the best system out there + it’s a blu-ray Player you can’t beat that. When Home comes out it we make the system that much better.

As for this New Xbox 360, there’s nothing that really impress me about it.

Since some games have gone multi-platform, I been hearing a few people say how many dvds will it take to play that game on Xbox 360. I know back during PS1 days FFVII had 3 disc, other games had 4 disc, but since games went to DVD disc. I personally haven’t bought a game that was on more then one.
Are there currently any games that take more than one DVD to play?

[hyperdine]

Originally Posted by JTK

I figured folks would get a quick chuckle out of that obvious irony/hypocrisy/paradox/whatever folks want to call it.

I find it very amusing that HDMI now matters, when before M$ was practically saying it was irrelevant, cables were too expensive, etc. I think someone on this forum actually posted a link (a while back) to the official Xbox360 site where M$ was basically saying HDMI was unnecessary.

[Blu Tiger]

Originally Posted by hyperdine

I find it very amusing that HDMI now matters, when before M$ was practically saying it was irrelevant, cables were too expensive, etc. I think someone on this forum actually posted a link (a while back) to the official Xbox360 site where M$ was basically saying HDMI was unnecessary.

I believe that they said that there wasn't a market for it yet.

[Rob Tomlin]

Someone needs to bring this up to Amir in the insiders thread and ask him why even MS isn't fully behind HD-DVD!!!!

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by hyperdine

I find it very amusing that HDMI now matters, when before M$ was practically saying it was irrelevant, cables were too expensive, etc. I think someone on this forum actually posted a link (a while back) to the official Xbox360 site where M$ was basically saying HDMI was unnecessary.

Yep.

So I'd wait until next year since they don't seem to be very good at predicting what's coming...instead expecting customers to pay all over again. How convenient for their bottom line and not yours.

Just to make sure..
1. they don't put a blu-ray drive into it in another 18 mths.
2. they don't have the same reliability problems as the current 360's..it's new technology and they had reliability problems even with that "proven" last gen technology.

Not exactly a confidence builder. Really nothing to lose by waiting. If you really have to have all the next gen stuff then just buy a PS3 and save all the trouble anyways.

Why take the chance you'll get another 360 dud as so many people have or your looking at the prospect of yet another upgrade a year from now? That's just embarrassing...especially if you recommend it to friends and family and they get stiffed as well.

If there was no competition and you had no choice it's one thing but that's not the case. Sony took the PR hit .. but did what was in the best long term interest of their customers. Give credit where credit is due.

M$ wants to turn it into a PC with constant hardware upgrades so the old hardware gets left behind and forces people to upgrade sooner than they otherwise would need to. No thanks.

[Blu Tiger]

Yes please!

[Blackraven]

Haha, looks like the early adopters are screwed EVEN MORE when they realize that MS won't be releasing an HDMI adaptor for existing consoles :P

Talk about the kind of "care" MS gives to its buyers.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Blackraven

Haha, looks like the early adopters are screwed EVEN MORE when they realize that MS won't be releasing an HDMI adaptor for existing consoles :P

Talk about the kind of "care" MS gives to its buyers.

If MS had been honest about it from the start, then I doubt people would have cared much. But, they were always careful to imply they might make HDMI available for the current 360, when it isn't possible. But, they always said it in a way that could be later argued that they were never saying they meant something for the current 360.

When the realization among 360 owners that they have been deceived sinks in, THEN people will freak.

Gary

[theknub]

im just waiting for some form of lawsuit or something from all the 360 owners who purchased and within about 1 year have an outdated product

[Blu Tiger]

The only people that would probably need or want to upgrade would be people with 1080p sets, that can't do 1080p via component or VGA.

[theknub]

i don't know a 1080p set that does it over component and vga connections are so few. and even with a vga connection, it won't work with protected content

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by Blackraven

Haha, looks like the early adopters are screwed EVEN MORE when they realize that MS won't be releasing an HDMI adaptor for existing consoles :P
Talk about the kind of "care" MS gives to its buyers.

How does Image Constraint Token affect all those HD-DVD add-ons - HDMI or not?

[Blu Tiger]

Yeah, I spent $8,000 on my plasma and it doesn't have a VGA input??? I do have RGB, but I think that's a computer connection. I have to add these little adapters to the RGB inputs to make them component.