Please help with 7.1 setup... - Blu-ray Forum

jcook71506 · 03-07-2008, 03:20 PM

Hi all,
I was wondering you all could help me out. I am about to get rid of my 5.1 setup I have now and use the money to purchase a Onkyo system. I was wondering where would I be able to place the 7 speakers at? I don't have much room because I live in an apartment, but I have an idea of how I want it, and I do not want cables all over the floor as I do have 2 dogs and one of them has a problem with cables, lol. Cost me nearly 200+ on one cable a few months back. Anyway, I only have a stand. I'll post a picture if that helps. I was thinking perhaps, within the stand itself. The fronts, the surrounds and the center surround in the stand, then the center channel on top of the stand infront of the tv and the sub on the right side of the stand. I wish I had more room, but I don't. I hope this would sound good as well. Thanks.

Tyler2106 · 03-07-2008, 04:19 PM

Why do you want 7.1??? Have you tried to calibrate you speakers you have now??? What don't you like about your system now and what do you want in your new system..anything but 7.1??? I don't really like 7.1 because of the way your ears pick up the sound...if you have a speaker right behind you it is hard for your ear to pick that up and know where it came from because your ears point forward...maybe you should upgrade you 5.1 system with new speakers or a receiver???

Brian Cash · 03-07-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyler2106

Why do you want 7.1??? Have you tried to calibrate you speakers you have now??? What don't you like about your system now and what do you want in your new system..anything but 7.1??? I don't really like 7.1 because of the way your ears pick up the sound...if you have a speaker right behind you it is hard for your ear to pick that up and know where it came from because your ears point forward...maybe you should upgrade you 5.1 system with new speakers or a receiver???

Agree

un4gvn94538 · 03-07-2008, 04:41 PM

i dont use stand for my speakers. i have two towers for the front, and all four surrounds are on the wall. wires go along where the wall meets the ceiling (no attic). then use what ever you want to cover them up to look more apealing.
do whatever you want. your taste with your money. i dont understand why people question why others do what they want to do that has nothing to do with them. guess i never will.

if your sitting in the middle, speakers are behind slightly to the side. not directly behind, that would be 6.1. check out a speaker layout at dolby labs web site

gearyt · 03-07-2008, 04:41 PM

Get the receiver, new toys are always good, Start with your existing speakers and when you move you can then upgrade with the additional two

SDon1969 · 03-07-2008, 04:43 PM

I just got a Onkyo 605 today, I am planning on using my current 5.1 speakers & subwoofer for awhile. I don't know if or when I will upgrade to a 7.1 speaker setup.

In my room, for my rear speakers, I run them under a 8x11 rug (that stretches from TV to sofa) to keep them hidden.

kccarl · 03-07-2008, 05:19 PM

I don't agree with the main thread on this. I think you should upgrade your system to 7.1. I know you have a small apartment, but you can also purchase speakers like mirage omnistats.

The idea of a surround system is to be surrounded by it. In front of you is a soundstage that consists of the center and two fronts. As long as the center is in the middle of the length of the screen, it can be on top or on the bottom. Fronts obviously off to one side and the other spread out as wide as possible.

As for side surrounds, they should be placed so they are slighting behind and slighting above your ears when you are sitting in the main viewing seat. Rear surrounds honestly should be placed on the ceiling a few feet on either side of your seating position.

Do this and you will surround yourself with the sound. It'll take a while, but eventually all blu rays will be true 7.1. They aren't now, or I guess there may be a few, but you should try to prepare for the future.

Just me 2 cents...

Algernon · 03-07-2008, 05:44 PM

Anyone who says he doesn't like 7.1 has never heard a spaceship (as in Star Wars) fly from right behind the head to the front ... no way to get this feeling with 5.1 ...

... true, in most movies there'll be not much of a difference though ...

un4gvn94538 · 03-07-2008, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algernon

Anyone who says he doesn't like 7.1 has never heard a spaceship (as in Star Wars) fly from right behind the head to the front ... no way to get this feeling with 5.1 ...

... true, in most movies there'll be not much of a difference though ...

either never heard a 7.1 setup or a PROPER 7.1 setup

yellowblanket · 03-08-2008, 02:31 AM

i can honestly say that from 5.1 to 7.1 is a huge different. Everyone who watch movies at my place will agree with this.
Make sure your speaker wires are at a good thickness. i used 14', but 16' would do the job fine

Tyler2106 · 03-10-2008, 01:26 AM

you guys say 7.1 is great which it is but not many movies are 7.1...but if he isn't happy with his set up how is 2 more speakers going to fix the problem...I am guessing 9 out of 10 people here don't have their speakers calibrated...the OP needs to go out and buy a sound pressure level and calibrate his speakers...IT WILL MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

un4gvn94538 · 03-10-2008, 01:31 AM

im guessing you read somewhere that he was unhappy with his setup. all i read that he wanted to upgrade from a 5.1 and how to place speakers.

and its only a matter of time when there will be more movies in 7.1 than 5.1

Erman_94 · 03-10-2008, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

im guessing you read somewhere that he was unhappy with his setup. all i read that he wanted to upgrade from a 5.1 and how to place speakers.

and its only a matter of time when there will be more movies in 7.1 than 5.1

not to mention matrixing a 5.1 to 7.1

X-Ninja · 03-10-2008, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SDon1969

I just got a Onkyo 605 today.

Good choice.

Tyler2106 · 03-10-2008, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowblanket

i can honestly say that from 5.1 to 7.1 is a huge different. Everyone who watch movies at my place will agree with this.
Make sure your speaker wires are at a good thickness. i used 14', but 16' would do the job fine

LOL good one...that is funny!!!

Tyler2106 · 03-10-2008, 01:50 AM

Well to me it sounds like he doesn't know why he wants a 7.1 system...I think like I said before he needs to calibrate his speakers now and then when it is worth getting a 7.1 because more then like 2 movies are in 7.1...he should then get his other 2 speakers...I think a calibrated 5.1 system will sound better then a "thrown" together 7.1...

un4gvn94538 · 03-10-2008, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler2106

Well to me it sounds like he doesn't know why he wants a 7.1 system...I think like I said before he needs to calibrate his speakers now and then when it is worth getting a 7.1 because more then like 2 movies are in 7.1...he should then get his other 2 speakers...I think a calibrated 5.1 system will sound better then a "thrown" together 7.1...

again, i dont know what your reading. all he said he wants to upgrade and how to place speakers. how does that sound like he doesnt know why?

Tyler2106 · 03-10-2008, 01:59 AM

Why would you want a 7.1 system in a little apartment or anywhere right now??? There are very very little movies in 7.1 and it isn't going to make it sound any better in a normal movie...I guess what I was trying to do is save this guy money and open his eyes to something different he may have not of seen or known about...

un4gvn94538 · 03-10-2008, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler2106

Why would you want a 7.1 system in a little apartment or anywhere right now??? There are very very little movies in 7.1 and it isn't going to make it sound any better in a normal movie...I guess what I was trying to do is save this guy money and open his eyes to something different he may have not of seen or known about...

you have a right to your opinion but i really would love to hear anyone else who thinks it doesnt sound better. might as well ask most people registered to this site why they have a 7.1 set up! because there is something to it. and if your in a market to upgrade 7.1 or 5.1 for lossless sound (pcm) might as well upgrade with the future in mind. i stopped questioning why people want what they want. it doesnt concern me and all i want to do is help with thier question.

Tyler2106 · 03-10-2008, 02:09 AM

LOL you right...let him get a 7.1 system that won't make a "HUGE" difference...

03-07-2008, 03:20 PM	#1
jcook71506 Member Member since:Jan 2008	Please help with 7.1 setup... Hi all, I was wondering you all could help me out. I am about to get rid of my 5.1 setup I have now and use the money to purchase a Onkyo system. I was wondering where would I be able to place the 7 speakers at? I don't have much room because I live in an apartment, but I have an idea of how I want it, and I do not want cables all over the floor as I do have 2 dogs and one of them has a problem with cables, lol. Cost me nearly 200+ on one cable a few months back. Anyway, I only have a stand. I'll post a picture if that helps. I was thinking perhaps, within the stand itself. The fronts, the surrounds and the center surround in the stand, then the center channel on top of the stand infront of the tv and the sub on the right side of the stand. I wish I had more room, but I don't. I hope this would sound good as well. Thanks. Last edited by jcook71506; 08-04-2008 at 02:57 PM.

03-07-2008, 05:19 PM	#7
kccarl Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:colorado	Where to put 7.1 speakers I don't agree with the main thread on this. I think you should upgrade your system to 7.1. I know you have a small apartment, but you can also purchase speakers like mirage omnistats. The idea of a surround system is to be surrounded by it. In front of you is a soundstage that consists of the center and two fronts. As long as the center is in the middle of the length of the screen, it can be on top or on the bottom. Fronts obviously off to one side and the other spread out as wide as possible. As for side surrounds, they should be placed so they are slighting behind and slighting above your ears when you are sitting in the main viewing seat. Rear surrounds honestly should be placed on the ceiling a few feet on either side of your seating position. Do this and you will surround yourself with the sound. It'll take a while, but eventually all blu rays will be true 7.1. They aren't now, or I guess there may be a few, but you should try to prepare for the future. Just me 2 cents... Last edited by kccarl; 03-07-2008 at 05:22 PM.

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03-07-2008, 04:19 PM	#2
Tyler2106 Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Nebraska	Why do you want 7.1??? Have you tried to calibrate you speakers you have now??? What don't you like about your system now and what do you want in your new system..anything but 7.1??? I don't really like 7.1 because of the way your ears pick up the sound...if you have a speaker right behind you it is hard for your ear to pick that up and know where it came from because your ears point forward...maybe you should upgrade you 5.1 system with new speakers or a receiver???

03-07-2008, 04:41 PM	#4
un4gvn94538 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Limbo (Bakersfield, Ca.) 4K collection:143 Blu-ray collection:811 DVD collection:54 Digital collection:1494 Trading Score:277	i dont use stand for my speakers. i have two towers for the front, and all four surrounds are on the wall. wires go along where the wall meets the ceiling (no attic). then use what ever you want to cover them up to look more apealing. do whatever you want. your taste with your money. i dont understand why people question why others do what they want to do that has nothing to do with them. guess i never will. if your sitting in the middle, speakers are behind slightly to the side. not directly behind, that would be 6.1. check out a speaker layout at dolby labs web site

03-07-2008, 04:41 PM	#5
gearyt Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Henderson, NV Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:33	Get the receiver, new toys are always good, Start with your existing speakers and when you move you can then upgrade with the additional two

03-07-2008, 04:43 PM	#6
SDon1969 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Massachusetts Home Theater Gallery:32 Blu-ray collection:745 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	I just got a Onkyo 605 today, I am planning on using my current 5.1 speakers & subwoofer for awhile. I don't know if or when I will upgrade to a 7.1 speaker setup. In my room, for my rear speakers, I run them under a 8x11 rug (that stretches from TV to sofa) to keep them hidden.

03-07-2008, 05:44 PM	#8
Algernon Active Member Member since:Jul 2007	Anyone who says he doesn't like 7.1 has never heard a spaceship (as in Star Wars) fly from right behind the head to the front ... no way to get this feeling with 5.1 ... ... true, in most movies there'll be not much of a difference though ...

03-08-2008, 02:31 AM	#10
yellowblanket Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:1	i can honestly say that from 5.1 to 7.1 is a huge different. Everyone who watch movies at my place will agree with this. Make sure your speaker wires are at a good thickness. i used 14', but 16' would do the job fine

03-10-2008, 01:26 AM	#11
Tyler2106 Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Nebraska	you guys say 7.1 is great which it is but not many movies are 7.1...but if he isn't happy with his set up how is 2 more speakers going to fix the problem...I am guessing 9 out of 10 people here don't have their speakers calibrated...the OP needs to go out and buy a sound pressure level and calibrate his speakers...IT WILL MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!

03-10-2008, 01:31 AM	#12
un4gvn94538 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Limbo (Bakersfield, Ca.) 4K collection:143 Blu-ray collection:811 DVD collection:54 Digital collection:1494 Trading Score:277	im guessing you read somewhere that he was unhappy with his setup. all i read that he wanted to upgrade from a 5.1 and how to place speakers. and its only a matter of time when there will be more movies in 7.1 than 5.1

03-10-2008, 01:50 AM	#16
Tyler2106 Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Nebraska	Well to me it sounds like he doesn't know why he wants a 7.1 system...I think like I said before he needs to calibrate his speakers now and then when it is worth getting a 7.1 because more then like 2 movies are in 7.1...he should then get his other 2 speakers...I think a calibrated 5.1 system will sound better then a "thrown" together 7.1...

03-10-2008, 01:59 AM	#18
Tyler2106 Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Nebraska	Why would you want a 7.1 system in a little apartment or anywhere right now??? There are very very little movies in 7.1 and it isn't going to make it sound any better in a normal movie...I guess what I was trying to do is save this guy money and open his eyes to something different he may have not of seen or known about...

03-10-2008, 02:09 AM	#20
Tyler2106 Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Nebraska	LOL you right...let him get a 7.1 system that won't make a "HUGE" difference...

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