Blu-ray and HD DVD Star Rating Breakdown

[Chris Gerhard]

It is good work, but I have seen the opposite proven by looking at other sites. Are these ratings done solely on picture and sound quality? If content is a factor, it has been clear from day one Blu-ray will have a better movie on average. I haven't read the reviews or visited the site, but I believe content is given equal weight.

Best movies released to date, I agree Blu-ray is ahead. Best audio video quality, tiniest of margins still to HD DVD as a result of the poorly done MPEG-2 Blu-ray titles. As I always state when the meaningless picture quality differences are discussed, there are no technical reasons one will be better than the other given the same codecs, same bitrates, same source and same care taken with the transfer.

Chris

[Ascended_Saiyan]

This is just picture quality alone. If there is an average done on overall PQ and AQ from both formats, Blu-ray is leading that as well. If you do a PQ only average from HomeTheaterSpot.com, I believe Blu-ray would have a higher average than from HighDefDigest.com.

[Scorxpion]

Again Chris comments on this thread saying MPEG2 titles has a poor quality comparing it to HD_DVD.Chris this subject has been discussed before and its true enough to conclude that some of the first titles released in July was BAD,But now i would like you to have some revisions of Paramount titles and on opposite side the HD-DVD released at the same time.Its obvious MPEG2 have the same quality as HD-DVD released of the same company.Enough saying MPEG2 is a poor Quality at first it was but now its better and ahead of VC1 done by Microsoft.
Always this sentence you predict and announciate its HD-DVD Fans which is completly and Totally FALSE AND Out of history.Stop throwing unbelievable facts and UNTRUE statements.Enough is enough and if still not understood the reply you have yesterday i think you Should asked AMIR maybe he can help you.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by Scorxpion

Again Chris comments on this thread saying MPEG2 titles has a poor quality comparing it to HD_DVD.Chris this subject has been discussed before and its true enough to conclude that some of the first titles released in July was BAD,But now i would like you to have some revisions of Paramount titles and on opposite side the HD-DVD released at the same time.Its obvious MPEG2 have the same quality as HD-DVD released of the same company.Enough saying MPEG2 is a poor Quality at first it was but now its better and ahead of VC1 done by Microsoft.
Always this sentence you predict and announciate its HD-DVD Fans which is completly and Totally FALSE AND Out of history.Stop throwing unbelievable facts and UNTRUE statements.Enough is enough and if still not understood the reply you have yesterday i think you Should asked AMIR maybe he can help you.

I don't think he was talking about ALL MPEG-2 encoded titles. I think he was talking about the MPEG-2 titles that got bad reviews in the beginni

[Scorxpion]

OK but hopefully he will clarify more his statement.

Thanks,

[Chris Gerhard]

Originally Posted by Scorxpion

OK but hopefully he will clarify more his statement.

Thanks,

I said poorly done MPEG-2, meaning only that, not all MPEG-2. I wouldn't have needed the adjective if was discussing all MPEG-2. I hope that is clearer.

Chris

[Chris Gerhard]

I haven't confirmed the math, but dobyblue shows this in the signature used:

HD DVD PQ SQ TOTAL Blu-ray PQ SQ TOTAL
HighDef 3.92 3.67 3.79 HighDef 3.91 3.85 3.88
HTSpot 4.02 3.88 3.95 HTSpot 3.94 4.26 4.10
DVDTalk 3.67 3.52 3.59 DVDTalk 3.57 3.69 3.63
HTForum 4.11 3.72 3.92 HTForum 4.21 4.10 4.16
UpDisc 4.02 3.86 3.94 UpDisc 4.03 4.20 4.11
Totals 3.89 3.71 3.80 Totals 3.85 3.97 3.91

Shows 4 of 6 sites slightly rate HD DVD picture quality higher and average of the 6 sites slightly favors HD DVD for picture quality.

Chris

[Scorxpion]

If you have watched BD and compare it to these results ,you conclude that many websites has been unfair with BD and are forward with HD_DVD as a superior format Which is a loosing Format.They gives them i mean HD-DVD points higher than they Deserve.Again BD is Superior to HD-DVD in technical specs,PQ AND SQ and many of these has been discussed in this Forum.Again i recommend you to Read all over again the thread discussed in General discussion subject HD-DVD:What's all bad about it??? and you will have your own answer

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

I haven't confirmed the math, but dobyblue shows this in the signature used:

HD DVD PQ SQ TOTAL Blu-ray PQ SQ TOTAL
HighDef 3.92 3.67 3.79 HighDef 3.91 3.85 3.88
HTSpot 4.02 3.88 3.95 HTSpot 3.94 4.26 4.10
DVDTalk 3.67 3.52 3.59 DVDTalk 3.57 3.69 3.63
HTForum 4.11 3.72 3.92 HTForum 4.21 4.10 4.16
UpDisc 4.02 3.86 3.94 UpDisc 4.03 4.20 4.11
Totals 3.89 3.71 3.80 Totals 3.85 3.97 3.91

Shows 4 of 6 sites slightly rate HD DVD picture quality higher and average of the 6 sites slightly favors HD DVD for picture quality.

Chris

The other thing that needs to be taken into account is the fact that on of those sites only reviewed 60+ BDs. Hell, a third of the active members here have seen that many BDs. Plus, I would be willing to bet that most of those were from the beginning of Blu-ray's launch.

Personally, it looks like the BD titles known for their quality have not even been reviewed by some of those sites. HDDigest has even started reviewing HD DVD UK titles (Harry Potter). Is this fair...of course not. But, in spite of all this Blu-ray's overall score is clearly leading. It also seems that were the most titles are reviewed in both formats Blu-ray is about even in PQ.

[Chris Gerhard]

Originally Posted by Ascended_Saiyan

I don't think he was talking about ALL MPEG-2 encoded titles. I think he was talking about the MPEG-2 titles that got bad reviews in the beginni

Correct and personally seen my me. I have been using MPEG-2 for years and my comments early on was that I expected it to be the best, but I think it is clear now that other codecs are often better, especially at lower bitrates.

I am aware some MPEG-2 releases look fine.

Chris

[marine92104]

Originally Posted by Scorxpion

Again Chris comments on this thread saying MPEG2 titles has a poor quality comparing it to HD_DVD.Chris this subject has been discussed before and its true enough to conclude that some of the first titles released in July was BAD,But now i would like you to have some revisions of Paramount titles and on opposite side the HD-DVD released at the same time.Its obvious MPEG2 have the same quality as HD-DVD released of the same company.Enough saying MPEG2 is a poor Quality at first it was but now its better and ahead of VC1 done by Microsoft.
Always this sentence you predict and announciate its HD-DVD Fans which is completly and Totally FALSE AND Out of history.Stop throwing unbelievable facts and UNTRUE statements.Enough is enough and if still not understood the reply you have yesterday i think you Should asked AMIR maybe he can help you.

I think what Chris is talking about is MPEG-2 titles on BD-25s. I personally don't like MPEG-2 encoding either but on BD-50s it's a lot better than on BD-25s. If you read his reviews he sees more artifacts when they're put on BD-25s as a lot of other people have said in threads over at avsforum.

Chris you can correct me if I'm wrong. I read all your reviews & am going off of memory of things you've stated. I know it's been discussed at length in threads & neutral people & Blu-ray fans have said the same thing about the encoding hoping more studios would go with AVC.

I'm glad Sony finally stated they would only be using BD-50s now & it seems like they're going with AVC encoding. Disney has always had great transfers.