Predator 3D Blu-ray (1987) [Region Locked] - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Ill_Be_Back · 03-19-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Owl

I'll probably stick with my current copy of the original release, since it looks fine to my eyes...

I am sticking to mine too, best version available. Still open for a remaster as long as it is done right...

HD Goofnut · 03-19-2013, 04:21 PM

Another cash grab from Fox.

retablo · 03-19-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Another cash grab from Fox.

Not if it's yet another new scan/master (or, the previous new scan sans DNR).

fitprod · 03-19-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by retablo

Not if it's yet another new scan/master (or, the previous new scan sans DNR).

So did you bust up laughing as you wrote that?

You really think they're going to spend the money for a cheap 3D conversion? (Yes, the JVC process is cheap, and after seeing I Robot, not very good.)

fitprod

blonde_devil · 03-19-2013, 04:34 PM

more interested in the toys than in seeing this in 3D but it is one of the few movies I think might be good in 3D. it already has some shots in there that would look good once converted - Arnold falling down into the waterfall, etc. but still, probably won't see this. only good part is we might get a new bluray out of it.

retablo · 03-19-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fitprod

So did you bust up laughing as you wrote that?

You really think they're going to spend the money for a cheap 3D conversion? (Yes, the JVC process is cheap, and after seeing I Robot, not very good.)

fitprod

Not at all. A new scan was created for the UHE, they just added way too much DNR when readying it for blu. There's a decent chance they will go back to that scan and present the new disc unaltered. So if they are going to spend the time and money making a 3-D conversion, then yes, they can certainly go back to a good scan they already have and fix their mistake.

raygendreau · 03-19-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by retablo

Not at all. A new scan was created for the UHE, they just added way too much DNR when readying it for blu. There's a decent chance they will go back to that scan and present the new disc unaltered. So if they are going to spend the time and money making a 3-D conversion, then yes, they can certainly go back to a good scan they already have and fix their mistake.

What you call a mistake, the studio considers undeserved criticism.

Lemmy Lugosi · 03-19-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by raygendreau

What you call a mistake, the studio considers undeserved criticism.

This.

And, the UHE will likely look pretty good in 3D....one of the biggest gripes people have about 3D is how dark the picture looks.

Not this one, folks!!!!

And, finally, not everyone is appalled by the UHE, anyway.

No matter which transfer they use, my ass will be in a seat when it comes out.

brian9229 · 03-19-2013, 11:23 PM

I dont see this getting a proper conversion, ill bet it gets one similar in quality to i robot. Ive noticed the only movies that get the nice(looked like it was filmed in 3d) conversions are the big blockbuster movies, Titanic, Topgun, etc. I do hope they do it right, better than their Bluray transfer anyway.

Dalsk · 03-19-2013, 11:46 PM

Hell yes

Awesome news!
And if there is a new transfer, that would even better!

HD Goofnut · 03-20-2013, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by brian9229

I dont see this getting a proper conversion, ill bet it gets one similar in quality to i robot. Ive noticed the only movies that get the nice(looked like it was filmed in 3d) conversions are the big blockbuster movies, Titanic, Topgun, etc. I do hope they do it right, better than their Bluray transfer anyway.

Chances are they'll take the 2010 DNR disaster and convert it. As I said earlier, another cash grab just like I, Robot. They know some people will buy anything with 3D on it. That's why bastardizations such as The Avengers 3D, Top Gun 3D, and Clash of the Titans 3D exist.

Metallix87 · 03-20-2013, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Chances are they'll take the 2010 DNR disaster and convert it. As I said earlier, another cash grab just like I, Robot. They know some people will buy anything with 3D on it. That's why bastardizations such as The Avengers 3D, Top Gun 3D, and Clash of the Titans 3D exist.

I'm sorry, but I need to ask: I know Clash of the Titans has a terrible 3D version, and The Avengers 3D has a subpar one, but I've heard nothing but good stuff about the 3D version of Top Gun, which I bought relatively recently. I haven't watched it yet, but can you tell me exactly why it's a bastardization?

retablo · 03-20-2013, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by raygendreau

What you call a mistake, the studio considers undeserved criticism.

Source?

DetroitSportsFan · 03-20-2013, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by retablo

Source?

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Finally, Marcais was asked about the policy when remastering catalog titles and specifically about Predator. The Fox executive acknowledges that they got a lot of criticism, "but I don't think it was deserved," he countered, because the movie was shot on a film stock that wasn't good enough, and the Blu-ray version "represents what the filmmaker wanted it to look like." He said that Fox discusses the issue of "removing grain or not" with the filmmakers, as long as they are alive.

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=5821

A Fox exec defended a BD release from his studio. Go figure....

Blu-21 · 03-20-2013, 01:47 AM

The UHE transfer with the contrast boosting and DNR was pretty much made for the 3D conversion anyway, it never should have existed in 2D form to begin with.

This is just a shameless cheap cash in by the studios who will rush this out because some sheep out there will follow. Sorry if I offended any one, but this film was NEVER made with 3D cameras nor was it ever intended to be seen in 3D. Its a similar argument made when the UHE first hit the streets. The film was never shot with digital modern HD cameras, so trying to tweak the contrast, brightness, sharpness and then removing all the grain from the picture makes it look worse because not only does that grain hold information, but you are altering the product of its soul.

HD Goofnut · 03-20-2013, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Metallix87

I'm sorry, but I need to ask: I know Clash of the Titans has a terrible 3D version, and The Avengers 3D has a subpar one, but I've heard nothing but good stuff about the 3D version of Top Gun, which I bought relatively recently. I haven't watched it yet, but can you tell me exactly why it's a bastardization?

A film shot completely in 2D has no business being converted to 3D. It's no different than colorizing a black and white film.

Metallix87 · 03-20-2013, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

A film shot completely in 2D has no business being converted to 3D. It's no different than colorizing a black and white film.

Ah, okay, that makes sense, then.

HD Goofnut · 03-20-2013, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Metallix87

Ah, okay, that makes sense, then.

Yep, my term for that is bastardization.

BenjaminG · 03-20-2013, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

That's why bastardizations such as The Avengers 3D, Top Gun 3D, and Clash of the Titans 3D exist.

Are you serious? The Avengers 3D transfer is amazing.

metaridley · 03-20-2013, 09:07 AM

If the transfer for this new release sucks, then I'll probably never own Predator on Blu-ray.

03-19-2013, 04:21 PM	#42
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2373 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1091 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Another cash grab from Fox.

03-19-2013, 04:34 PM	#45
blonde_devil Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2011	more interested in the toys than in seeing this in 3D but it is one of the few movies I think might be good in 3D. it already has some shots in there that would look good once converted - Arnold falling down into the waterfall, etc. but still, probably won't see this. only good part is we might get a new bluray out of it.

03-19-2013, 11:23 PM	#49
brian9229 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Vermont / Steelbook™ - 481 4K collection:411 Blu-ray collection:1553 DVD collection:71 Digital collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:59	I dont see this getting a proper conversion, ill bet it gets one similar in quality to i robot. Ive noticed the only movies that get the nice(looked like it was filmed in 3d) conversions are the big blockbuster movies, Titanic, Topgun, etc. I do hope they do it right, better than their Bluray transfer anyway.

03-19-2013, 11:46 PM	#50
Dalsk Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Paris, France Home Theater Gallery:19 4K collection:215 Blu-ray collection:1167	Hell yes Awesome news! And if there is a new transfer, that would even better!

03-20-2013, 01:47 AM	#55
Blu-21 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Australia Blu-ray collection:67 Blu-ray reviews:1	The UHE transfer with the contrast boosting and DNR was pretty much made for the 3D conversion anyway, it never should have existed in 2D form to begin with. This is just a shameless cheap cash in by the studios who will rush this out because some sheep out there will follow. Sorry if I offended any one, but this film was NEVER made with 3D cameras nor was it ever intended to be seen in 3D. Its a similar argument made when the UHE first hit the streets. The film was never shot with digital modern HD cameras, so trying to tweak the contrast, brightness, sharpness and then removing all the grain from the picture makes it look worse because not only does that grain hold information, but you are altering the product of its soul.

03-20-2013, 09:07 AM	#60
metaridley Banned Member since:Feb 2012	If the transfer for this new release sucks, then I'll probably never own Predator on Blu-ray.

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