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Old 03-22-2013, 02:55 PM   #801
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I suspect many of us will be having the same mass debate for the next eight months or so. But we're not really going to know the nature of the EE, and whether it's preferable over the standard release, until someone actually has a copy in their hot little disc drive.
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Old 03-22-2013, 03:24 PM   #802
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I am still debating whether to just wait for the extended version or just buy the theatrical version this week. If anything I feel like the theatrical could be trimmed down but wonder if the Extended with offer something of good value with new/different scenes. Thoughts? If it just adds scenes that really don't add anything to the movie, I have to pass.

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I suspect many of us will be having the same mass debate for the next eight months or so. But we're not really going to know the nature of the EE, and whether it's preferable over the standard release, until someone actually has a copy in their hot little disc drive.

Luckly for me one of my co-workers let me borrow his Walmart version which I watched the other night. Now being the 4th time that I have watched this, I am pretty much sated for quite a while. So I will wait and see what the EE has to offer, and then choose between that one or the Theatrical during the Black Friday sale.

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Old 03-22-2013, 03:49 PM   #803
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I am still debating whether to just wait for the extended version or just buy the theatrical version this week. If anything I feel like the theatrical could be trimmed down but wonder if the Extended with offer something of good value with new/different scenes. Thoughts? If it just adds scenes that really don't add anything to the movie, I have to pass.
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Luckly for me one of my co-workers let me borrow his Walmart version which I watched the other night. Now being the 4th time that I have watched this, I am pretty much sated for quite a while. So I will wait and see what the EE has to offer, and then choose between that one or the Theatrical during the Black Friday sale.

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Based on how incredibly superior the EE's for the original LOTR trilogy were (at least in my opinion), I have good faith in the upcoming EE's for "The Hobbit" films, and I have no problem waiting an extra 8 months to get them.
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:33 PM   #804
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Perhaps, but there's still no reason the overly long tree sequence at the end of the film can't be trimmed, and the fighting mountains (as well as the Goblin King's "That'll do it" line) removed for the EE. While I'm not expecting it, I'd love it if they fixed those sequences...Whatever the case, I'll certainly be buying the EE when it comes out.
Why would you remove that stuff? The tree sequence isnt even that long. And whats wrong with "That'll do it"? The only things I would change is remove that god awful score when Thorin goes after Azog and that melodramatic "Nooooooooooo" from Balin.

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Old 03-22-2013, 05:59 PM   #805
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Why would you remove that stuff?
The fighting mountains were ridiculous, and served no purpose whatsoever, and if I could only pick one thing to cut out of the movie, that would be it.

The tree sequence just dragged on and on.

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It is in my opinion.

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And whats wrong with "That'll do it"?
It's silly, like something you'd see in a Disney movie made for children.

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The only things I would change is remove that god awful score when Thorin goes after Azog and that melodramatic "Nooooooooooo" from Balin.
I'd be fine if they removed that as well . I hope Azog is killed off quickly in the next film so we don't have to deal with him anymore. He's a lame villain IMO. Not the worst I've seen, but bad enough to where the more he's on screen, the worse the film (and series) will be for it...
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:05 AM   #806
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After watching the Production Video Blogs from the theatrical release, I am looking forward to seeing The Appendices.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:43 AM   #807
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So I bought the digibook of The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey from Walmart today and read online that sometime this year a extended version with 20 to 25 mins added to the movie will be coming out. And I wanna know for anyone that owns the extended lord of the rings movies is it worth waiting for the extended editions of the hobbit movies? If it is I might just wait to get all the hobbit movie extended editions. In the mean time at least I can see the hobbit as I didn't get to see it in theaters.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:08 AM   #808
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I hope that there will be a little more Radagast & his animals in the extended edition of The Hobbit. Think they shot more of the spiders & what they actually did to Radagast's animals than what made it into the theatrical version? I'm mostly content with the theatrical version as is & just waiting for the next 2 installments to see Evangeline Lilly as Tauriel.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:24 AM   #809
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It's silly, like something you'd see in a Disney movie made for children.
You do realise the Hobbit is a children's book and Peter Jackson tried to stay true to that?

Its not silly at all.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:24 PM   #810
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So I bought the digibook of The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey from Walmart today and read online that sometime this year a extended version with 20 to 25 mins added to the movie will be coming out. And I wanna know for anyone that owns the extended lord of the rings movies is it worth waiting for the extended editions of the hobbit movies? If it is I might just wait to get all the hobbit movie extended editions. In the mean time at least I can see the hobbit as I didn't get to see it in theaters.
Only you can make that call.
Obviously fans that like the EE's are going to say yes, and those that don't think the EE's add much will say no.
Best bet, for you, is to be your own judge. Afterall you've got several months to decide.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:44 PM   #811
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As a fan who will no longer watch anything BUT the LOTR trilogy in its extended form, I can say I'm highly skeptical about an EE for The Hobbit.
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:44 PM   #812
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I didn't find The Hobbit to be dragged out as much as some other people say.
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Old 03-24-2013, 02:48 PM   #813
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The Hobbit was only four minutes longer than Django Unchained. If people want to complain about inflated running times, complain about that POS.
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Old 03-24-2013, 03:18 PM   #814
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I was underwhelmed with The Hobbit when I saw it in the theater. I admit my expectations were very high. As others have written, one can complain about the erratic pacing, the lack of character development, parts of the story seem irrelevant, the movie is bloated, etc.

But having said that, it's Middle Earth, and I love being there. Peter Jackson is taking fans on a tour of ME over three movies that clearly go beyond The Hobbit. I am a big fan of LOTR and I have the extended version. I do not have the theater version, and have no desire to have it. The way I see it, I can find fault with The Hobbit, but if you want to return to Middle Earth and enjoy the time you are there, then the longer the better.

It reminds me of Woody Allen's joke:
Two women walk out of a restaurant, One woman says, "The food was not very good", and the other woman says, "Yes, and the portions were small!"

Okay, The Hobbit is not perfect. But I want the largest portion I can get. I'll eagerly wait for the EE.

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Old 03-24-2013, 04:26 PM   #815
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So I bought the digibook of The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey from Walmart today and read online that sometime this year a extended version with 20 to 25 mins added to the movie will be coming out. And I wanna know for anyone that owns the extended lord of the rings movies is it worth waiting for the extended editions of the hobbit movies? If it is I might just wait to get all the hobbit movie extended editions. In the mean time at least I can see the hobbit as I didn't get to see it in theaters.
This is impossible for anyone to answer for you. I LOVE the EE LOTR movies, but The Hobbit in its theatrical form already feels bloated and too long to me and I have ZERO interest in even seeing the EE of The Hobbit. Hell, I am even regretting buying the theatrical edition as I doubt I will ever watch this watered down film again..........no way in hell am I investing in the EE in light of that.

I think it really depends on what you think of The Hobbit in its current form. Did you like the movie and feel it did not drag, or did you think it was a bit bloated already? If it feels a bit bloated to you already, chances are MORE will not make things better and will simply make an already padded film even more bloated.

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The Hobbit was only four minutes longer than Django Unchained. If people want to complain about inflated running times, complain about that POS.
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Old 03-24-2013, 04:53 PM   #817
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You do realise the Hobbit is a children's book and Peter Jackson tried to stay true to that?
Complete with how many be-headings ? Yes, I'm fully aware that "The Hobbit" is a children's book, I read it as a kid myself...Overall, I thought "The Hobbit" was great, I rated it 4/5 on the voting poll...All I'm saying is that the complaints I posted above, are what kept it from garnering a 5/5 from me. They're very minor points, easily fixable, and if an EE is being worked on, while I completely understand that the filmmakers aren't going to bow to fan requests of any sort (it's simply impossible as there's too many differing opinions), if I were the one doing the re-editing, I'd take that stuff out and replace it with some more valuable footage (namely, more of Gollum talking to himself, perhaps in his little boat in the water, as well as the lead Eagle thanking Gandalf for having previously healed his wing, like he did in the animated Rankin-Bass feature, they should even use the same voice! ).

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The Hobbit was only four minutes longer than Django Unchained. If people want to complain about inflated running times, complain about that POS.
Yeah, I had no problem with the running time of "The Hobbit," and from what I saw in trailers, I don't think I would've been able to stand more than about 5 minutes of "Django."
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The Hobbit was only four minutes longer than Django Unchained. If people want to complain about inflated running times, complain about that POS.
I'm a huge fan of both Tolkien and Tarantino, but between the two films, Django Unchained's running time was managed much better than An Unexpected Journey's. Django's 165 minute runtime went by, in my personal opinion, at a rather snappy pace. Each scene pulled me in and held my attention. Very rarely did I feel a scene overstayed it's welcome.

An Unexpected Journey, on the other hand, had a pacing that was all over the place. The first 5-10 minutes were amazing. After seeing that opening, I thought I would be in for a real treat. But the introduction to the dwarves and the nature of the journey went on too long. I know the Hobbit is sillier and light-hearted, but the dwarves tossing around plates and singing, most of the dinner antics in general, weren't really necessary. By the time the adventure finally started, I had already started to lose interest. Then they made it to Rivendell where things picked up. Then they went to the caves and it really slowed down again. Then Gollum livened things up. The movie constantly shifted from high highs to low lows. When you make a movie that spans past two hours, pacing is paramount. You have to make sure people don't realize they've been sitting there for over two hours. The Lord of the Rings films did a great job of this, especially Return of the King. In mine and many others' opinions, An Unexpected Journey failed in this regard.
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I didn't find The Hobbit to be dragged out as much as some other people say.
Just watched it for the first time and I'd agree.

I don't know if it will seem longer on repeat viewings though.
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I don't see how The Hobbit is any slower than FOTR EE. I am glad Jackson spent a great deal of time with Bilbo and the dwarves in his house. I always thought the beginning of the theatrical cut of FOTR was weak and was glad that PJ put all of that stuff back in for EE.
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