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Penton-Man · 03-22-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

nooooooooooo, 1080p is NOT 1080p. they are NOT all created equal. Bitrates makes the difference between good 1080p and bad 1080p otherwise all blu-ray would look equal, same with streaming.

Outside link sent to me last evening…http://www.avsforum.com/t/1462120/is...me-theater-use

pagemaster · 03-22-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

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without the ‘h’…..

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To the point discussed, got to side with the ‘pagemaster’

on this one…as there’s an old saying in the business that goes something like…‘the encryption level for a DCP is equivalent to that used by the Bank of England….so if you can break the encryption of a DCP, you might as well hack the bank!

There really is no debating the DCP issue, the DCP encryption has not been broken, even if one broke it, one would need a DCP compliant projector and compatible server that would need to "handshake" in order to correctly work. You would also need to have a certified tech to sign off on it in the case of a legit set up.

DCP and DCP playback is not plug and play, they need to handshake each other.

wormraper · 03-22-2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KRW1

+1 For a while I was toying with the idea that he's not real, just an AI program that replies in a certain way to certain posts. The odd syntax, logic difficulties and spelling mistakes and name brand dropping got me convinced.

Like this one - I can't imagine a human saying it out loud.

The circles we went around in when I asked how his system was calibrated were a joy.

lol, I remember that conversation, he didn't even lie about his equipment he just ran around saying it didn't matter, It's "superb"

pagemaster · 03-22-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Outside link sent to me last evening…http://www.avsforum.com/t/1462120/is...me-theater-use

I don't think much of the results, of course blu ray for hardcore "home theatre" use is going to win. But for the majority that don't have screens past 60+, streaming will do fine.

KRW1 · 03-22-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

lol, I remember that conversation, he didn't even lie about his equipment he just ran around saying it didn't matter, It's "superb"

It ended up in the usual, 'no muss, no fuss, a crystal clear 1080p picture on my the superb setup with Apple TV' sort of conversation as I recall.

wormraper · 03-22-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pagemaster

I don't think much of the results, of course blu ray for hardcore "home theatre" use is going to win. But for the majority that don't have screens past 60+, streaming will do fine.

who CARES about the masses honestly. most people are sheep who don't care about much of anything. this whole site is DEDICATED to the elite. the elite keep the market pumping, the sheep are those who need herding

KRW1 · 03-22-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

who CARES about the masses honestly. most people are sheep who don't care about much of anything. this whole set is DEDICATED to the elite. the elite keep the market pumping, the sheep are those who need herding

Pagemaster is one of the masses, don't forget.

Penton-Man · 03-22-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pagemaster

There really is no debating the DCP issue, the DCP encryption has not been broken, even if one broke it, one would need a DCP compliant projector and compatible server that would need to "handshake" in order to correctly work. You would also need to have a certified tech to sign off on it in the case of a legit set up.

DCP and DCP playback is not plug and play, they need to handshake each other.

I rarely debate. I post facts.

In regards to that, I’m fully aware of basic DCP security involved as well as the interaction of the Studio Public Key, the DCP Key, the Screen Public Key and the Screen Private Key as it relates to DCP/KDM security, which is essentially a public key infrastructure used to protect banks as well as military secrets.

….Not to mention being aware of the current impetus in industry to encourage the studios to use the greatest and latest for automated key delivery….which is the ‘theater key retrieval’ method of delivery.

But thanks for the response from your perspective as a past projectionist.

pagemaster · 03-22-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KRW1

Pagemaster is one of the masses, don't forget.

The masses don't collect laserdisc, dvd, and blu ray like I do...and they certainly don't collect the first three and support and enjoy downloading or streaming as well.

KRW1 · 03-22-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pagemaster

The masses don't collect laserdisc, dvd, and blu ray like I do...and they certainly don't collect the first three and support and enjoy downloading or streaming as well.

You said in the other thread you had less than 20 blurays and weren't going to buy anymore because you had Apple TV now, which allowed you to watch Tender Mercies at crystal clear 1080p on an Apple TV, and streaming looked the same to you. You also don't know what calibration is.

That puts you firmly in the masses camp.

pagemaster · 03-22-2013, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KRW1

You said in the other thread you had less than 20 blurays and weren't going to buy anymore because you had Apple TV now, which allowed you to watch Tender Mercies at crystal clear 1080p on an Apple TV, and streaming looked the same to you. You also don't know what calibration is.

That puts you firmly in the masses camp.

Oh I still buy them, just not as much as I used to. The last two are The Dark Knight Rises and Perks of a Wallflower. Blu ray is a wonderful media, however it is not the only media that is getting my money. I rent about 6 digital movies per every 1 blu ray that I buy right now. maybe it is 8 to 1.

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allowed you to watch Tender Mercies at crystal clear 1080p on an Apple TV, and streaming looked the same to you..

Tender Mercies in not available on blu ray in North America

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KRW1 · 03-22-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pagemaster

Tender Mercies in not available on blu ray in North America

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Yes it is, from amazon. It might not have been released, but anyone who isn't one of the masses would know, that isnt the same as not available.

wormraper · 03-22-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KRW1

Yes it is, from amazon. It might not have been released, but anyone who isn't one of the masses would know, that isnt the same as not available.

don't forget that his said "no blu-ray is worth over $6.99-$9.99... EVER". so I think it's out of his price range

KRW1 · 03-22-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

don't forget that his said "no blu-ray is worth over $6.99-$9.99... EVER". so I think it's out of his price range

Well, this is a different consideration. He's spent the last 36 pages arguing on behalf of 'the masses' and it's all suddenly different when it's pointed out to him he's made himself one of them.

The only thing that differentiates him from this 'masses' is that he's one of the few people who actually bought an Apple TV, one of their only flops.

pagemaster · 03-22-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

don't forget that his said "no blu-ray is worth over $6.99-$9.99... EVER". so I think it's out of his price range

It's not. Might as well just go to the cinema instead. 2k is1080p too.

wormraper · 03-22-2013, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pagemaster

It's not. Might as well just go to the cinema instead. 2k is1080p too.

sooooooo, tell me where I can go find a cinema playing "return of the king" or "John Carter" or "Night of the hunter" right now?

pagemaster · 03-22-2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

sooooooo, tell me where I can go find a cinema playing "return of the king" or "John Carter" or "Night of the hunter" right now?

My point was, if you just spend the money and see it in the theatre you wouldn't have to buy the blu ray, how anyone honestly pays more than $10 is beyond me, complete waste of money on anything over that price.

I generally see the movie in the theatre, once I have seen it, I usually never need to see it ever again

wormraper · 03-22-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pagemaster

My point was, if you just spend the money and see it in the theatre you wouldn't have to buy the blu ray, how anyone honestly pays more than $10 is beyond me, complete waste of money on anything over that price.

my point is who the hell only watches a movie once? I see many of my favorites anywhere from 5-20 times each

Tok · 03-22-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KRW1

Well, this is a different consideration. He's spent the last 36 pages arguing on behalf of 'the masses' and it's all suddenly different when it's pointed out to him he's made himself one of them.

The only thing that differentiates him from this 'masses' is that he's one of the few people who actually bought an Apple TV, one of their only flops.

With Jobs gone, and smartphones and tablets now becoming commodity items with much more competition from Android devices... Apple's renaissance period is coming to an end.

pagemaster · 03-22-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

my point is who the hell only watches a movie once? I see many of my favorites anywhere from 5-20 times each

There are a few movies that I would watch more than others, most of them one viewing is all I need. Most folks I know are the same.

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