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Old 03-26-2008, 02:54 PM   #1
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Does it have seamless branching for the TV cut?
Took the words right out of my mouth.

The special edition DVD has both the US theatrical and the director's cut on it. I don't see why not support both on this too.
However, some issues arise. There are inconsistencies with the director's cut (for example they forgot the color the eyes blue in some of the scenes), and it is not only much longer, it has a different narration as well. I am not sure seamless branching will work with it, it really depends on how much of the film is the same.
I will buy the director's cut the day it comes out, but I will not get the theatrical release.
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:08 PM   #2
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The TV cut is awful. Edited together by numpties with little knowledge of either editing or films in general. The theatrical version is certainly flawed, but not to the degree of the TV edit.
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:35 PM   #3
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The TV cut is awful. Edited together by numpties with little knowledge of either editing or films in general. The theatrical version is certainly flawed, but not to the degree of the TV edit.
he TV cut is Only if you've never read the book, in which case the Cliff's notes version that is the theatrical film is unwatchable. The TV cut is something like 40 min longer, and includes many of the important scenes chopped out for the theatrical

Lynch was required to bring it in under 2:20 (that was pretty much a hard limit at the time) to ensure maximum number of shows per day, and never got to participate in the TV cut, so he disowned it. It still doesn't change the fact that it's more faithful to the book, and therefore superior

Only the author of the original work's opinion matters in my book, and that's Frank Herbert, who never voiced a peep of objection (admittedly probably because the check cleared)

I'm a firm believer in books being transferred to screen as verbatim as humanly possible

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Old 04-10-2008, 11:51 AM   #4
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he TV cut is Only if you've never read the book, in which case the Cliff's notes version that is the theatrical film is unwatchable. The TV cut is something like 40 min longer, and includes many of the important scenes chopped out for the theatrical

Lynch was required to bring it in under 2:20 (that was pretty much a hard limit at the time) to ensure maximum number of shows per day, and never got to participate in the TV cut, so he disowned it. It still doesn't change the fact that it's more faithful to the book, and therefore superior

Only the author of the original work's opinion matters in my book, and that's Frank Herbert, who never voiced a peep of objection (admittedly probably because the check cleared)

I'm a firm believer in books being transferred to screen as verbatim as humanly possible

agree with you on this. i've always appreciated what lynch tried to do with the complex material.

the sci-fi channel version was even more faithful, but was of such low budget that i found it distracting at times.

now there is apparently a new paramount-backed effort to do yet another version.

frankly, unless they were to spend lord-of-the-rings money and time, i don't see how anyone can bring a faithful representation to the big screen.
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:05 PM   #5
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Old 04-10-2008, 02:12 PM   #6
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the sci-fi channel version was even more faithful, but was of such low budget that i found it distracting at times.
That's my suspicion about why it hasn't been released on Blu even though it was announced. Someone realized that the backdrops waving in the breeze is 5x MORE obvious in HD. The SF version was really good, but they had to fire that costume designer. The Reverend Mothra and her cowgirls, and the Sardaukar pastry chefs were ludicrous.

Children of Dune would fare far better (except for that horrible scene on Caladan)

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now there is apparently a new paramount-backed effort to do yet another version.

frankly, unless they were to spend lord-of-the-rings money and time, i don't see how anyone can bring a faithful representation to the big screen.
It's frankly impossible to do Dune properly in under 4-5 hours
They'd better include the gladiator scene this time, and the whole Thufir subplot.
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Old 04-10-2008, 02:50 PM   #7
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Is there an English track on this import? And if so, what audio does it have?
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:37 PM   #8
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Took the words right out of my mouth.

The special edition DVD has both the US theatrical and the director's cut on it.
There's no D U N E director's cut, (well the theatrical is), the extended TV cut wasn't assembled by Lynch, so that's why it says "by Alan Smithee".

A true reconstructed director's cut of D U N E might be the holy grail of SF movies..

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Old 04-10-2008, 06:24 AM   #9
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Well - here is the newest mail from amazon.fr.

Translated by google-translate:

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Old 04-10-2008, 11:10 AM   #10
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Talking just picked up!!!!!!!!!

I ve just BOUGHT it!!!

DUNE on blu-ray,
I can already confirm that it is a free zone disc

I'll give it a test tonight at home and will give comments about pic & sound
specs on back cover :
A-B-C zones
video : high def 2.35 : 1 1080p
languages : french & english - 5.1 DTDS HD-A & 2.0 DD
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:22 AM   #11
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I ve just BOUGHT it!!!

DUNE on blu-ray,
I can already confirm that it is a free zone disc

I'll give it a test tonight at home and will give comments about pic & sound
specs on back cover :
A-B-C zones
video : high def 2.35 : 1 1080p
languages : french & english - 5.1 DTDS HD-A & 2.0 DD

Sweet! And if there are any extras?

(Amazon.r are saying that this is being delayed 3 weeks, I wonder what gives?)
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:29 AM   #12
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Sweet! And if there are any extras?

(Amazon.r are saying that this is being delayed 3 weeks, I wonder what gives?)
yeah I checked website too.
then I checked on fnac website, it is shipped within 24hrs but I don t know if they ship to US or outside europe.
I bought mine at a Fnac in Paris.

concerning interactivity you get (by "my translation")
- adaptation : from the novel to the movie documentary, artworks gallery
- shooting : destination dune, photos gallery
- david lynch : interview, filmography
- cut scenes : photos gallery
- promotion : trailer, film posters, commercial products

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Old 04-10-2008, 04:29 PM   #13
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I ve just BOUGHT it!!!

DUNE on blu-ray,
I can already confirm that it is a free zone disc

I'll give it a test tonight at home and will give comments about pic & sound
specs on back cover :
A-B-C zones
video : high def 2.35 : 1 1080p
languages : french & english - 5.1 DTDS HD-A & 2.0 DD
I totally envy you
Where did you get it? Amazon.fr?

Looking forward to your review of
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Old 04-10-2008, 10:43 PM   #14
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I totally envy you
Where did you get it? Amazon.fr?

Looking forward to your review of
Alright,
I've just looked at it few minutes to check audio & video quality & subtitles
oh, I get it in a FNAC in France, you can check it on website www.fnac.fr


PQ :2.5/5
I've never seen the latest DVD edition and can t really compare if there is an improve or not. I gave it 3 because I've just watched CEO3K and think that CEO3K is better. it is still over average considering original master.
"not bad, but really not too good neither..." I think this is the minimum treatment for a blu-ray

AQ : 4/5
includes an english DTSHD-MA track,
but my actual setting can t do the job for now.
need to wait for the PS3 new update and to buy also the onkyo 805 I belove so much
I heard for now the DTS5.1 and it is already good enough! bass are terrific! but sometimes voices are not clear enough...

Last edited by Giyomu; 04-11-2008 at 07:00 AM. Reason: changed 4.5 to 2.5 for PQ as i've been disappointed while watching all movie
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:22 PM   #15
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I ve just BOUGHT it!!!

DUNE on blu-ray,
I can already confirm that it is a free zone disc

I'll give it a test tonight at home and will give comments about pic & sound
specs on back cover :
A-B-C zones
video : high def 2.35 : 1 1080p
languages : french & english - 5.1 DTDS HD-A & 2.0 DD
Giyomu, can you confirm if you can watch the English soundtrack without French subtitles? The French were notorious at having forced French subtitles on English soundtracks on their DVD releases.

Thanks
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Giyomu, can you confirm if you can watch the English soundtrack without French subtitles? The French were notorious at having forced French subtitles on English soundtracks on their DVD releases.

Thanks
And also if the extras have forced subtitles or not?

BTW any signs of "Braveheart" Blu-ray that was to be releases at the same time?
(Amazon.fr claim that was to be delayed for a few weeks also)
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Old 04-10-2008, 10:25 PM   #17
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I'm so jealous.... Please buy copies and ship them to us.
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Old 04-10-2008, 10:46 PM   #18
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And also if the extras have forced subtitles or not?

BTW any signs of "Braveheart" Blu-ray that was to be releases at the same time?
(Amazon.fr claim that was to be delayed for a few weeks also)
well.... something 's weird
I was not able to launch any of the extras.
I don t know if there is a problem with the disc or because extras won t run on a zone A player...
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Giyomu, can you confirm if you can watch the English soundtrack without French subtitles? The French were notorious at having forced French subtitles on English soundtracks on their DVD releases.

Thanks
yes,
movie starts with "forced" subtitles but you can switch them off with your remote control when started
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