We are creatures of hard media by habit. - Blu-ray Forum

ussrelativity · 03-26-2008, 06:45 PM

Thanks to Family Guy, no one will ever forget Vaudeville.

SquidPuppet · 03-26-2008, 07:35 PM

Marketing will never unprogram that desire to own. Demanding that we no longer own the free playing media is not poor marketing, it is revived communism. Long live hard media!

What is your point? Cant you just say what you mean. I dont understand where you stand on this issue.

Skulltap · 03-26-2008, 07:43 PM

For me, digital downloads of movies doesn't appeal for the same reason as digital music. Compression-compression-compression. Until bitrates are standardized somewhat, I will never prefer DDL over BRD. Ever.

I download MP3's at 192kbs and yeah, it's fine when I am on the go on my laptop and want my free music fix, but when I am sitting down to enjoy my favorite band, no way does it suffice for my ears. The high-end is too crappy. I mean, even Vinyl sounds better than CD's on the high-end, and that technology is how old again? Of course, hearing vinyl on a $25,000.00 system is different than an Aiwa.

My 2 cents...

tron3 · 04-07-2008, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ussrelativity

Thanks to Family Guy, no one will ever forget Vaudeville.

Wow, this thread died quicker than Vaudeville. So much for being timeless.

Rabidhunter · 04-07-2008, 10:13 PM

Good read, wow, you summed up everything nicely.

Marcusarilius · 04-07-2008, 11:12 PM

Just think how long movie theaters have thrived through all of the entertaiment venues. Vaudville acts moved to the "talkies". W.C. Fields, Marx Bros., Three Stooges. Stage plays like the original Dracula with Bela Lugosi, moved to film. Radio shows existed as the average families source of mainstreme entertainment. And existed while TV was gaining momentum to become the mainstreme source of entertainment. Still, movie theaters thrived.

With the advent of VHS and DVD, owning physical movie media was just as desired as owning 78 lps, 45s, 8 track tapes, then fragile cassette tapes and then CDs for music. Yes, physical hard disk or hard anything is a natural desire by human beings. Would one be satisfied to have beautiful paintings only stored on your hard drive? Envite the neighbors over to look at the big blank space on your wall except for the small post it note sitting there stating "see PC for intended visual dominance and possible intended pleasure occupying this space." Not!

I personally don't believe movie theaters will survive ultimately. HDM with not especially the incredible PQ, but more so the SQ in my opinion can finally be (practically) rivalled at home for the first time in history. Blu-ray is what I have been waiting my whole life for.

JJ · 04-07-2008, 11:17 PM

I got emotional reading that. Very persuasive. Excellent work!

Lucy Diamond · 09-29-2008, 05:56 PM

I don't know man...I saw a juggler in the Big Apple Circus once...no clue where he was from...but he juggled a bowling ball, a puppy and a CHAINSAW and I could watch that S)(&T allllllllllll day.

prkprkprk · 11-04-2008, 11:57 PM

Wow. Your post is long.

dadkins · 11-05-2008, 01:17 AM

One problem though, we own the disc, we only have a license to the data on it - so I keep being told.

At some point, downloads will happen, and you know some people will find a way to put it on hard media.
That, or we will all get terabyte slim drives(USB/Firewire) and have them stored and easily available.
Remember, only a license to the data.

As I also keep getting told, it is illegal to safeguard the data we have a license to - aka the Backup.
Animal chewed it up? Kid(s) trashed it? Some unforseen accident? Oh well! Go buy a new one!

Yes! I buy most of mine!
I'm a member of a rental site.
I also root through the El Cheapo DVD bins still.
Yes, I even have a couple downloaded video files - LEGAL!

Vinyl, 8 Tracks, cassettes, CDs, VHS, DVD, Blu-ray... WHEEE!!!
I even have a couple Reels of recorded radio still... somewhere.

progers13 · 10-29-2009, 12:46 PM

Well written post and a good read. +1

tacomaprime · 10-29-2009, 02:58 PM

I completely agree. I hate "renting" movies. I buy because then I can watch whenever I want.

webseeker2008 · 10-30-2009, 12:39 AM

Please keep this thread going,I love great conversation!I have every home convenience but still love to go to the local cinema with my lady.She loves it too.

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03-26-2008, 06:45 PM	#1
ussrelativity Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007	Thanks to Family Guy, no one will ever forget Vaudeville.

03-26-2008, 07:35 PM	#2
SquidPuppet Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Club Loop Blu-ray collection:277 Blu-ray reviews:27	*Marketing will never unprogram that desire to own. Demanding that we no longer own the free playing media is not poor marketing, it is revived communism. Long live hard media!* What is your point? Cant you just say what you mean. I dont understand where you stand on this issue.

03-26-2008, 07:43 PM	#3
Skulltap Member Member since:Feb 2008	For me, digital downloads of movies doesn't appeal for the same reason as digital music. Compression-compression-compression. Until bitrates are standardized somewhat, I will never prefer DDL over BRD. Ever. I download MP3's at 192kbs and yeah, it's fine when I am on the go on my laptop and want my free music fix, but when I am sitting down to enjoy my favorite band, no way does it suffice for my ears. The high-end is too crappy. I mean, even Vinyl sounds better than CD's on the high-end, and that technology is how old again? Of course, hearing vinyl on a $25,000.00 system is different than an Aiwa. My 2 cents...

04-07-2008, 10:13 PM	#5
Rabidhunter Senior Member Member since:Feb 2008	Good read, wow, you summed up everything nicely.

04-07-2008, 11:12 PM	#6
Marcusarilius Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Seattle, WA. Blu-ray reviews:52 Trading Score:1	Just think how long movie theaters have thrived through all of the entertaiment venues. Vaudville acts moved to the "talkies". W.C. Fields, Marx Bros., Three Stooges. Stage plays like the original Dracula with Bela Lugosi, moved to film. Radio shows existed as the average families source of mainstreme entertainment. And existed while TV was gaining momentum to become the mainstreme source of entertainment. Still, movie theaters thrived. With the advent of VHS and DVD, owning physical movie media was just as desired as owning 78 lps, 45s, 8 track tapes, then fragile cassette tapes and then CDs for music. Yes, physical hard disk or hard anything is a natural desire by human beings. Would one be satisfied to have beautiful paintings only stored on your hard drive? Envite the neighbors over to look at the big blank space on your wall except for the small post it note sitting there stating "see PC for intended visual dominance and possible intended pleasure occupying this space." Not! I personally don't believe movie theaters will survive ultimately. HDM with not especially the incredible PQ, but more so the SQ in my opinion can finally be (practically) rivalled at home for the first time in history. Blu-ray is what I have been waiting my whole life for.

04-07-2008, 11:17 PM	#7
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	I got emotional reading that. Very persuasive. Excellent work!

09-29-2008, 05:56 PM	#8
Lucy Diamond Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:The Tomb of Annihilation 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:3	I don't know man...I saw a juggler in the Big Apple Circus once...no clue where he was from...but he juggled a bowling ball, a puppy and a CHAINSAW and I could watch that S)(&T allllllllllll day.

11-04-2008, 11:57 PM	#9
prkprkprk Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Prime collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:112	Wow. Your post is long.

11-05-2008, 01:17 AM	#10
dadkins Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Hercules, CA Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:2	One problem though, we own the disc, we only have a license to the data on it - so I keep being told. At some point, downloads will happen, and you know some people will find a way to put it on hard media. That, or we will all get terabyte slim drives(USB/Firewire) and have them stored and easily available. Remember, only a license to the data. As I also keep getting told, it is illegal to safeguard the data we have a license to - aka the Backup. Animal chewed it up? Kid(s) trashed it? Some unforseen accident? Oh well! Go buy a new one! Yes! I buy most of mine! I'm a member of a rental site. I also root through the El Cheapo DVD bins still. Yes, I even have a couple downloaded video files - LEGAL! Vinyl, 8 Tracks, cassettes, CDs, VHS, DVD, Blu-ray... WHEEE!!! I even have a couple Reels of recorded radio still... somewhere.

10-29-2009, 12:46 PM	#11
progers13 Blu-ray Baron Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Tampa, FL Home Theater Gallery:83 Blu-ray collection:337 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:2	Well written post and a good read. +1

10-29-2009, 02:58 PM	#12
tacomaprime Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:IL 4K collection:76 Blu-ray collection:137 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:11	I completely agree. I hate "renting" movies. I buy because then I can watch whenever I want.

10-30-2009, 12:39 AM	#13
webseeker2008 Member Member since:Mar 2009 Location:RALEIGH,NC Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:1	Please keep this thread going,I love great conversation!I have every home convenience but still love to go to the local cinema with my lady.She loves it too.

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