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Old 05-16-2013, 01:45 PM   #961
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I'm just glad I don't care about any of these movies because otherwise I might have become distracted from the highly entertaining drama typhoon here and elsewhere.

Seriously though, Sony epically botched their marketing campaign for this. Between making it absolutely clear that none of these titles are in true 4K and adding special features to fill out the empty space, I'd say at least 90% of all the complaints would have been alleviated.
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:02 PM   #962
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Is there really a point to any of this? Don't a lot of titles already come from 4K sources? And with 50GB of space available on a dual-layer disc, do we really believe for one second that Sony will fully utilize(or even need) all of it without including any extras? Plus, one of the appeals of Superbit DVDs was the upgrade in sound from the DTS tracks. That's a non-issue with Blu-rays which already come with lossless audio.

It sounds like this 4K line of titles is for a marginal(if that) bump in video quality, identical audio, and a loss of all the extras. My biggest fear is that Sony will start to intentionally half-ass their non-4K releases in order to justify the double-dip later on.
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:12 PM   #963
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Yes, especially when these discs have between 10 to 20GB of
EMPTINESS.
I really like to know why they did not fill the blu ray disc's up
Why no extended cut for Total recall??
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:16 PM   #964
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Dumb question but this is my 1st experience w/4k.

Will they play in a regular bluray player or do they only work in certain ones??

I just saw that Ghostbusters is coming out in 4k and got a good review for PQ vs. the original release and am considering picking it up.
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:27 PM   #965
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Dumb question but this is my 1st experience w/4k.

Will they play in a regular bluray player or do they only work in certain ones??

I just saw that Ghostbusters is coming out in 4k and got a good review for PQ vs. the original release and am considering picking it up.
These releases are mastered from a 4k source. The discs are still 1080p bluray discs. Essentially remasters.
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:33 PM   #966
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These releases are mastered from a 4k source. The discs are still 1080p bluray discs. Essentially remasters.
awesome. thanks for the response!!
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:34 PM   #967
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I think its really good that 4K titles are now coming out. I think Sony deserve some credit for stepping up to the plate.
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:36 PM   #968
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I think its really good that 4K titles are now coming out. I think Sony deserve some credit for stepping up to the plate.
They've already been out for quite awhile.
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:37 PM   #969
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I think its really good that 4K titles are now coming out. I think Sony deserve some credit for stepping up to the plate.
They've been coming out for years. This is nothing new.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:01 PM   #970
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Angels and Demons came out in 2009, and Amazing Spider-Man just 7 months ago.

I do love that Sony did make these prices exactly the same as their Blu-rays, however. This is great pricing for what people have said, and is shown form screencaps to be a great improvement.


I read on the back that to output at it's full res, you need a xvYCC compatible TV and player. Is this to play it at 4k res only? If you play on a 1080p screen through regular HDMI, it will look like the Spider-Man screencaps exactly? Even then, it's worth the upgrade.
I spent the last ten minutes searching but could only find comparisons of Spider-man. Are there others?
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:07 PM   #971
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According to the Ghostbusters review, it seems most of these new tranfers are pretty negligble save for Ghostbusters and Glory.

anyone get Glory? a penny for your thoughts?
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:10 PM   #972
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I think its really good that 4K titles are now coming out. I think Sony deserve some credit for stepping up to the plate.
As others have said, this is nothing new. Also, these are not 4k titles. They are "mastered" from 4k.

If you were to play it in an eventual 4k player, the player would just upscale it, just like your blu-ray player does to dvds. It still wouldn't look as good as a real 4k pressing of it....which will eventually exist.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:12 PM   #973
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I think its really good that 4K titles are now coming out. I think Sony deserve some credit for stepping up to the plate.
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As others have said, this is nothing new. Also, these are not 4k titles. They are "mastered" from 4k.

If you were to play it in an eventual 4k player, the player would just upscale it, just like your blu-ray player does to dvds. It still wouldn't look as good as a real 4k pressing of it....which will eventually exist.
See, this is exactly the confusion that Sony is sowing with this "Mastered in 4K" marketing nonsense. It's already difficult enough teaching people about the difference between DVD and Blu-ray, and this fiasco will just make things more difficult all around.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:13 PM   #974
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See, this is exactly the confusion that Sony is sowing with this "Mastered in 4K" marketing nonsense. It's already difficult enough teaching people about the difference between DVD and Blu-ray, and this fiasco will just make things more difficult all around.
I enjoy it though. It makes for interesting conversations at Best Buy and what not.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:15 PM   #975
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See, this is exactly the confusion that Sony is sowing with this "Mastered in 4K" marketing nonsense. It's already difficult enough teaching people about the difference between DVD and Blu-ray, and this fiasco will just make things more difficult all around.
I'm pretty sure that's their plan. Jo Blo will see "4K" and think they NEED this since it's the next best thing. People read this thread and are still confused, so you can imagine the normal person off the street.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:16 PM   #976
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See, this is exactly the confusion that Sony is sowing with this "Mastered in 4K" marketing nonsense. It's already difficult enough teaching people about the difference between DVD and Blu-ray, and this fiasco will just make things more difficult all around.
Yeah, it's just Superbit all over again.

I recall a friend of mine who back in 2005 said he wasn't interested in Blu-Ray/HD-DVD when they come up because they would only look as good as Superbit titles.
He eventually realized the folly of his thinking after seeing some of the same movies he owned in superbit on Blu-ray.


From what I have seen of these titles so far, I would say this is the version to buy...if you don't already own it. So far, I won't be "upgrading" any of my past purchases.
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Old 05-16-2013, 04:16 PM   #977
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I ordered Ghostbusters and Taxi Driver, there are really the only two 4K titles so far I'd want to own. I haven't come across any Taxi Driver 4K reviews yet.
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I enjoy it though. It makes for interesting conversations at Best Buy and what not.
I try my best, but some people are just resistant.

Late last year, I saw an older lady walking around with a copy of Brave DVD in her hands. It was obvious that she was hesitant b/c the price was $20.

I picked up the BD/DVD combo and showed it to her. "Ma'am, this is $15. It's cheaper than the DVD, and you get both versions."

"But I don't have a Blu-ray player."

"Yes, but this includes the same DVD that you have in your hands, and it's $5 cheaper."

"But I don't have a Blu-ray player."

"That's okay, it's cheaper and you can play the DVD that is an entirely separate disc."

"Oh."

She was clearly still confused, though she picked up the BD/DVD combo and at least started looking at the specs on the back of each version.

I hope that she bought the BD/DVD combo.

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Old 05-16-2013, 04:18 PM   #979
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They're (Sony) selling 4K TV's and have no disc content. They're hoping this bridges the gap until the physical media is decided. But we know... wink,wink.
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I ordered Ghostbusters and Taxi Driver, there are really the only two 4K titles so far I'd want to own. I haven't come across any Taxi Driver 4K reviews yet.
I doubt you'll see much of a difference in Taxi Driver.
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