Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread - Page 501 - Blu-ray Forum

Metallix87 · 06-03-2013, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Movie-Brat

Depends on the audience. There's two, ones who like it and the others who'd want to see it after watching Spoony's review to laugh at it. Not in a so bad, it's good kind of way.

Isn't that kind of the same for "The Incredible Melting Man", though?

redrunner97 · 06-03-2013, 09:17 PM

The gorgeous art for both upcoming box sets, side by side!

NoirFan · 06-03-2013, 09:19 PM

Cliff, I assume it's probably too late, but would it be possible to only have the VINCENT PRICE COLLECTION text on the slip, and not on the actual disc art? Repeating it is rather redundant, and a text-free inner cover would be all the better to display Joel Robinson's wonderful art.

Movie-Brat · 06-03-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Metallix87

Isn't that kind of the same for "The Incredible Melting Man", though?

From what I can tell, at least that one has fans for a reason as judging by the behind the scenes stuff, something got lost in translation.

redrunner97 · 06-03-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan

Cliff, I assume it's probably too late, but would it be possible to only have the VINCENT PRICE COLLECTION text on the slip, and not on the actual disc art? Repeating it is rather redundant, and a text-free inner cover would be all the better to display Joel Robinson's wonderful art.

Its fantastic art, thats for sure.

I hope these aren't horribly expensive. I'll buy it anyway, but Day One or not depends on the price. I can not wait though!

redrunner97 · 06-03-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Movie-Brat

From what I can tell, at least that one has fans for a reason as judging by the behind the scenes stuff, something got lost in translation.

The fact that The Howling II has fans, means there is a reason.
They would not like it if there were no mitigating factors.

Look at Manos: the Hands of Fate, thats coming out on BD later this Summer and it has enough fans to collectively donate 45K to the restoration. And thats just the fans that had an account on Kickstarter and heard of the project. Imagine the thousands that did not know about the project. It is stunning.

Every movie has fans.

Cliff dislikes Deadly Blessing, but Jeff likes it.

This just goes to show you that even fans can be split, no one opinions is correct.

Just because some people say Gone With The Wind is the greatest film ever, does not make it so. No movie "sucks"...

Jobla · 06-03-2013, 09:33 PM

Really excited to see the Vincent Price art. Day one for me!

NoirFan · 06-03-2013, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by redrunner97

The fact that The Howling II has fans, means there is a reason.

Well, it does have 3,385 votes on IMDB, but that's not a reflection of the film's popularity, only that 3,385 people have given it an average rating of 3.0. Not that IMDB is the final word on artistic merit (I do remember the whole Dark Knight fiasco), but 3.0 is...3.0.

Metallix87 · 06-03-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Movie-Brat

From what I can tell, at least that one has fans for a reason as judging by the behind the scenes stuff, something got lost in translation.

Clearly, The Howling II has fans as well.

Frightener22 · 06-03-2013, 09:35 PM

Fantastic artwork by Joel. He really knocked it out of the park, the guy captures Price like few can. Happy to see he is in Scream's company now and hope to see more work from him on future covers.

Movie-Brat · 06-03-2013, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by redrunner97

The fact that The Howling II has fans, means there is a reason.
They would not like it if there were no mitigating factors.

Look at Manos: the Hands of Fate, thats coming out on BD later this Summer and it has enough fans to collectively donate 45K to the restoration. And thats just the fans that had an account on Kickstarter and heard of the project. Imagine the thousands that did not know about the project. It is stunning.

Cliff dislikes Deadly Blessing, but Jeff likes it.

This just goes to show you that even fans can be split, no one opinions is correct.

Just because some people say Gone With The Wind is the greatest film ever, does not make it so. No movie "sucks"...

Wes Craven is an easy sell. And the only reason people are buying Manos on Blu-Ray is because of MST3k. That's it. And you may understand why Howling II has its fans but I sure as hell understand why it's detested.

cmac · 06-03-2013, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan

Well, it does have 3,385 votes on IMDB, but that's not a reflection of the film's popularity, only that 3,385 people have given it an average rating of 3.0. Not that IMDB is the final word on artistic merit (I do remember the whole Dark Knight fiasco), but 3.0 is...3.0.

And let me say... we can't release everything. We are at our maximum output now.

We won't ever be able to make all the fans happy. We have picked the titles we think will sell. You can all debate the merits of our picks, but it's not going to change the titles we have licensed. We have what we have and we'll be releasing those titles we've licensed.

If we do another deal with the studios, we'll take all the suggestions under consideration.

You may like HOWLING II more than INCREDIBLE MELTING MAN... that is your opinion and an opinion you are abosolutely allowed to voice. If you had your own label, you might have licensed HOWLING II instead. I chose IMM.

redrunner97 · 06-03-2013, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Movie-Brat

Wes Craven is an easy sell. And the only reason people are buying Manos on Blu-Ray is because of MST3k. That's it. And you may understand why Howling II has its fans but I sure as hell understand why it's detested.

This blu-ray itsef has no association with MST3K, so clearly that is not so.

No one in here claimed it was "The most fantastic film of all time, ever made, forever, and ever, and ever!!...". But it is popular and there is a market for it.
As much so as many other cult films.

Because, at the end of the day thats what it it. The Howling 2 is a cult film, that means it has a very specific following. And quite clearly there is a following....

Im more than satisfied with Shout's output now, as far as I am concerned it can only get better.
Kudos Cliff.

jaws3dfan · 06-03-2013, 09:46 PM

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I mean come on, Gene Siskel admitted he liked Carnosaur without some flimsy excuse as I recall.

He also liked Halloween III, I admire him for that, however Siskel and Ebert both picked ALIEN as the "Dog of the week" yet ALIEN has proven to be a popular and successful franchise.

Movie-Brat · 06-03-2013, 09:51 PM

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He also liked Halloween III, I admire him for that, however Siskel and Ebert both picked ALIEN as the "Dog of the week" yet ALIEN has proven to be a popular and successful franchise.

Their opinions probably changed anyway. And well, well said Cliff. And redrunner, if Howling II has an audience, the DVD would have sold better. I'm one of the unfortunate suckers who bought it on DVD because of Christopher Lee but I'm glad I'm free of that sucker.

Metallix87 · 06-03-2013, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac

And let me say... we can't release everything. We are at our maximum output now.

We won't ever be able to make all the fans happy. We have picked the titles we think will sell. You can all debate the merits of our picks, but it's not going to change the titles we have licensed. We have what we have and we'll be releasing those titles we've licensed.

If we do another deal with the studios, we'll take all the suggestions under consideration.

You may like HOWLING II more than INCREDIBLE MELTING MAN... that is your opinion and an opinion you are abosolutely allowed to voice. If you had your own label, you might have licensed HOWLING II instead. I chose IMM.

Cliff, I think you should know, I don't think people are outright criticizing your picks, so much as myself and others are voicing our support for titles we like or are interested in in the hopes of them being picked up by you guys in the future. So yes, what we want is the suggestions to be taken under consideration in the future if and when you do another deal with the studios.

Marsupial Werewolf · 06-03-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac

If we do another deal with the studios, we'll take all the suggestions under consideration.

You may like HOWLING II more than INCREDIBLE MELTING MAN... that is your opinion and an opinion you are abosolutely allowed to voice. If you had your own label, you might have licensed HOWLING II instead. I chose IMM.

Thanks, Cliff.

Personally, IMM is a great choice and a stupidly fun movie. It's on pre-order.

Just hoping that, as the SF line continues, HOWLING II may be reconsidered.

spawningblue · 06-03-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac

If we do another deal with the studios, we'll take all the suggestions under consideration.

That's all I was hoping for. Obviously you are going to pick your favourites and big sellers first, but hopefully down the run you give this one a shot, or at the least look into it and the newfound fandom it now has. If it didn't sell well previously, maybe you can get it on the cheap.

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And redrunner, if Howling II has an audience, the DVD would have sold better. I'm one of the unfortunate suckers who bought it on DVD because of Christopher Lee but I'm glad I'm free of that sucker.

As has been previously stated, the audience for this film has grown quite a bit over the years. I bet sales of Troll 2 weren't hot when it was first released either. Again there is a reason why all of these films have been hitting Blu lately (Miami Connection, Manos, Troll 2, Burial Ground, The Room, ect.), people love to get together and have a good laugh and these films are a great way to do it. These films are hot right now, you can't judge an audience for a film presently by how well it sold 8 years ago!

And Movie-Brat, we get it you don't like the film, if it ever gets released just don't buy it, and let all of us who do enjoy it pick it up. What's the big deal? It's not like The Video Dead, Incredible Melting Man, ect. are all horror masterpieces. Personally I will buy anything Scream releases but you don't have to. Lots of people don't like some of the choices Scream have made and lots love the choices Scream have made. You can't please everyone.

Metallix87 · 06-03-2013, 10:10 PM

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Personally I will buy anything Scream releases

I feel the same way, though I'll admit I'm still unsure about "Dead Souls" and "Cockneys vs. Zombies". Something about those two still keeps me from being super excited for them...

cmac · 06-03-2013, 10:10 PM

[QUOTE=spawningblue;7642341]That's all I was hoping for. Obviously you are going to pick your favourites and big sellers first, but hopefully down the run you give this one a shot, or at the least look into it and the newfound fandom it now has. If it didn't sell well previously, maybe you can get it on the cheap.

Many of my favorites don't pass the test either. I have to pick titles that will make back the money we put into them.

So even some of my favorites will never come out.

06-03-2013, 09:17 PM	#10002
redrunner97 Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Trading Score:24	The gorgeous art for both upcoming box sets, side by side!

06-03-2013, 09:19 PM	#10003
NoirFan Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 4K collection:16 Blu-ray collection:2442 Trading Score:29	Cliff, I assume it's probably too late, but would it be possible to only have the VINCENT PRICE COLLECTION text on the slip, and not on the actual disc art? Repeating it is rather redundant, and a text-free inner cover would be all the better to display Joel Robinson's wonderful art.

06-03-2013, 09:33 PM	#10007
Jobla Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Boulevard of Broken Dreams	Really excited to see the Vincent Price art. Day one for me!

06-03-2013, 09:35 PM	#10010
Frightener22 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:New Jersey 4K collection:447 Blu-ray collection:9814 Trading Score:3	Fantastic artwork by Joel. He really knocked it out of the park, the guy captures Price like few can. Happy to see he is in Scream's company now and hope to see more work from him on future covers.

06-03-2013, 10:10 PM	#10020
cmac Blu-ray Insider Member since:Jul 2011 Blu-ray collection:1433 DVD collection:7 Trading Score:4	[QUOTE=spawningblue;7642341]That's all I was hoping for. Obviously you are going to pick your favourites and big sellers first, but hopefully down the run you give this one a shot, or at the least look into it and the newfound fandom it now has. If it didn't sell well previously, maybe you can get it on the cheap. Many of my favorites don't pass the test either. I have to pick titles that will make back the money we put into them. So even some of my favorites will never come out.

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