The Emperor's New Groove / Kronk's New Groove (2000) - 6/11/13

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Originally Posted by yumny

Nah, I don't think for eternity. Tangled was definitely better marketed, that's for sure, but in the end I think PatF is going to end up the more timeless one. I mean, watching Tangled right now, it already seems pretty dated - sorry. I genuinely do like Tangled, I just don't think it's as good as PatF.

Tangled is a terrible movie. I have so many reasons why i hate this movie. I initially loved it when I saw it for the first time because I went in with low-to-no expectations. When I watched it the second time.. I hated it.

As for the princess and the frog, 2 main problems with the movie.
1. The songs are not memorable and are too much. I don't think we needed 2 show stoppers.

[Show spoiler]1 Down in New Orleans (Prologue) - Loved the begining, especially when Tiana sings.
3 Down in New Orleans - It's alright.
4 Almost There - second best song in the movie.
5 Friends on the Other Side - Best song in the movie.
6 When We're Human - Good, not bad.
7 Gonna Take You There - Why did they have to have this song? It doesn't make sense.
8 Ma Belle Evangeline - Why didn't we get a balad sung by the main characters?
9 Dig a Little Deeper - We didn't need the lesson to be sung to us -_-
10 Down in New Orleans (Finale) - Good ending reprise.

2. The second big problem was that the story was way too complicated.

Now the big problem that has nothing to do with the movie, but with the audience is what caused this movie to fail (In Disney's eyes)..

It's prejudice over hand-drawn animated movies. For a while people saw Disney movies as art. Little mermaid had gorgeous animation and amazing background art. The songs had lyrics that adults understood and they didn't feel like it was just a kiddie movie. Then Pixar came out... Yes, this is the only thing I'll ever hate about pixar... People saw pixar and thought "Hey! Now here is an animated movie for adults!" and then fricken Shrek came out and completely killed Hand drawn animation.
So when this movie came out, people thought that it was a kids movie and opted not to go see it.
Will Disney ever return to Hand-drawn animation? I don't think so. Unless they have a story that they have been developing for a while.

My insight on the Princess and the frog changed after I watched the Nostalgia Critic's review of it. That's when I realized that there was a prejudice with the hand-drawn animation.


Also, shouldn't there be a general Disney discussion thread that we can talk on? I don't want to be scolded again because this is out of topic.