Superman Returns

[Abdrewes]

Count me in on the love for Singer's film!

[RyanPom]

In the old show he always ducks when a chair got thrown at him.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Count me in on the love for Singer's film!

Sorry, couldn't resist even though for the most part opinions cannot be incorrect.

[rikraq]

Originally Posted by RyanPom

She does know. That's what she whispers to him at the hospital. She has his kid.

But she doesn't know Superman is Clark. That's what's effing stupid.

[RyanPom]

Originally Posted by rikraq

But she doesn't know Superman is Clark. That's what's effing stupid.

She does know. The kid knew that Clark was his Dad. I don't know why Lois wouldn't figure it out.

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Sorry, couldn't resist even though for the most part opinions cannot be incorrect.

It would be a near perfect film for me if Spacey toned down his performance.

[L-Rouge]

I have heard the current Blu-ray is disapointing in terms of technical specs, average sound etc. But for the movie it self, I was hooked, really brought me in to the universe. The kryptonite Island was for it's time quite epic, and I thought kevin spacey was very good, I've mentioned this here before but I thought Parker Posey would be my preference for Lois Lane, had a maturity about her performance, i thought she was great.

technically, I had no issues with the pacing or the action.

[RyanPom]

Parker Posey ruined the movie for me somewhat. She's so hammy.

[Infernal King]

I loved Kevin Spacey and Parker Posey hamming it up. (Posey in particular is one of my favorite actresses.) Almost all of the best comic book villains are large hams, in my opinion.

"Krrrrryptonite!"

[X400]

a horrible horrible horrible portrayal of superman and to have tried to tie it to the original donner/lester films was a great idea but how they portrayed superman in returns made the tying to the originals a mockery

they should burn all prints of it

[ONE_DAY_AS_A_LION]

Originally Posted by X400

a horrible horrible horrible portrayal of superman and to have tried to tie it to the original donner/lester films was a great idea but how they portrayed superman in returns made the tying to the originals a mockery

they should burn all prints of it

This is where I disagree. I think that's the problem I had with this film. IMO, whenever you take on a project of a super hero or character that's been done before, it's time to take it into a new direction. The Donner/Lester films had its day. With all the well written Superman comic books, there were tons of stories to choose from to keep our favorite super hero relevant, up to the times and awesome. I know I probably wouldn't last in Hollywood but if I were given a project of something significant, that has been done before, the only way I would approach it is in a different direction. Put a spin on it and if the audience doesn't like it, so be it but at least I could go home knowing I tried to do something different, something that had not been done before. That's what disappointed me about Superman Returns.

[Infernal King]

I want to read the long essay Quentin Tarantino supposedly wrote about why he loved Superman Returns.

[Hawkguy]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

It would be a near perfect film for me if Spacey toned down his performance.

One of the biggest problems, for sure

[bluearth]

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

I guess in the MOS universe bullets are like bee stings.

With such huge power levels theres always going to be inconsistencies. Nam-Ek is

[Show spoiler]blown back by jet machine fire

which to me was done more for visual effect then showing how much it really affects them

A couple of guesses from me on how weapons feel like or would effect Superman

Man of Steel Universe
handgun/machinegun bullets - flick of a finger
helicopter bullets - 1" rubber balls fired at 15mph
jet bullets -

[Show spoiler]Nam Ek's reaciton was overdramatized IMO, in this universe I think the effect is 2" rubber balls fired at 25mph

Cruise Missile - Being hit by 250lb linebacker (confirmed by Snyder)
Nuclear bomb - (not sure if he would survive or not - confirmed by Snyder)

Superman Returns Universe
handgun/machinegun bullets - dust particle
helicopter bullets - dust particle
jet bullets - gnat
Cruise Missile - Rain drop
Nuclear bomb - standing 3 feet from a small toaster oven

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by bluearth

With such huge power levels theres always going to be inconsistencies. Nam-Ek is

[Show spoiler]blown back by jet machine fire

which to me was done more for visual effect then showing how much it really affects them

A couple of guesses from me on how weapons feel like or would effect Superman

Man of Steel Universe
handgun/machinegun bullets - flick of a finger
helicopter bullets - 1" rubber balls fired at 15mph
jet bullets -

[Show spoiler]Nam Ek's reaciton was overdramatized IMO, in this universe I think the effect is 2" rubber balls fired at 25mph

Cruise Missile - Being hit by 250lb linebacker (confirmed by Snyder)
Nuclear bomb - (not sure if he would survive or not - confirmed by Snyder)

Superman Returns Universe
handgun/machinegun bullets - dust particle
helicopter bullets - dust particle
jet bullets - gnat
Cruise Missile - Rain drop
Nuclear bomb - standing 3 feet from a small toaster oven

I doubt they would let a nuclear bomb kill Superman in any universe, considering Wolverine from Marvel can survive those and Superman is much stronger than Wolverine is.

[Drewbee87]

Originally Posted by bluearth

With such huge power levels theres always going to be inconsistencies. Nam-Ek is

[Show spoiler]blown back by jet machine fire

which to me was done more for visual effect then showing how much it really affects them

A couple of guesses from me on how weapons feel like or would effect Superman

Man of Steel Universe
handgun/machinegun bullets - flick of a finger
helicopter bullets - 1" rubber balls fired at 15mph
jet bullets -

[Show spoiler]Nam Ek's reaciton was overdramatized IMO, in this universe I think the effect is 2" rubber balls fired at 25mph

Cruise Missile - Being hit by 250lb linebacker (confirmed by Snyder)
Nuclear bomb - (not sure if he would survive or not - confirmed by Snyder)

Superman Returns Universe
handgun/machinegun bullets - dust particle
helicopter bullets - dust particle
jet bullets - gnat
Cruise Missile - Rain drop
Nuclear bomb - standing 3 feet from a small toaster oven

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

Well come on there's been some over-powered versions of Superman but to take automatic gunfire to the eyeball and not even flinch like that, I think I will audibly sigh and shake my head when I see that scene again on BD.

[Drewbee87]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Well come on there's been some over-powered versions of Superman but to take automatic gunfire to the eyeball and not even flinch like that, I think I will audibly sigh and shake my head when I see that scene again on BD.

I rolled my eyes last time I watched SR during that scene, it will probably turn into head shaking next time. lol

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

I rolled my eyes last time I watched SR during that scene, it will probably turn into head shaking next time. lol

To the people complaining that Lois was undesirable in this film, as far as I know she's always been very...catty and it's actually one of the things Clark likes about her the most, the fact that she's very opinionated. They made him SO unbreakable and a little green shiv to the side and he almost died...talk about overdoing the green K allergy.

[poke smot]

Didn't mind the movie. it has some cool moments, buy come on...a massive island of kryptonite? And how does he lift it? Don't want to start anything but damn I loved MOS so much more.