Upgrade: Elite or PS3?

[ps3andlovinit]

For those people that already have a 360 and are considering an Elite as well - which would be your best "upgrade" path?

With the 360 Elite "upgrade" you get

120GB hard drive
HDMI 1.2a.

With the PS3 "upgrade" you get

60GB hard drive
Blu-ray
HDMI 1.3
Built-in Wireless Ethernet
Support for Bluetooth devices including non-Sony ones.
Compact Flash, SD Card, Memory Stick slots.
PS3 exclusive games
On-line multi-player for those games
Linux...
..and you can still keep your 360 to play current and future 360 games as well. So nothing lost in that regard.

[BOSS10L]

No brainer. PS3. HDMI isn't critical, and with 1.3 capable recievers/seperates coming soon, it loses even more luster.

My only gripe is M$ charging of $180 for the bigger HDD. Highway robbery IMO.

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

For those people that already have a 360 and are considering an Elite as well - which would be your best "upgrade" path?

With the 360 Elite "upgrade" you get

120GB hard drive
HDMI 1.2a.

With the PS3 "upgrade" you get

60GB hard drive
Blu-ray
HDMI 1.3
Built-in Wireless Ethernet
Support for Bluetooth devices including non-Sony ones.
Compact Flash, SD Card, Memory Stick slots.
PS3 exclusive games
On-line multi-player for those games
Linux...
..and you can still keep your 360 to play current and future 360 games as well. So nothing lost in that regard.

[JTK]

If your 360 is doing everything you want it to do and there's no problems...then clearly the PS3 gives you an appreciable upgrade and it opens the door for you to all the exclusives that it's going to have and...oh yeah...you can get into Blu-Ray without really feeling any pain.

[MatrixS2000]

Not to mention that the PS3 HDD is user upgradeable, if for some reason you want more storage space...

[Zvi]

Is PS3 hdd user officially user upgradeable? I'd be interested to get that and install 1tb HDD in it for sure.

[HiNRG]

I'll warn you. For the next five years, if you ask anyone on this forum to choose between the PS3 and a non-Sony Blu-ray player, over 90% of the responses will be for the PS3. Sorry, I'm not to knocking the PS3, because it's an awesome player, but it has gone into my bedroom. The new Samsung BD-P1200 is now the Blu-ray player for my home theater, because it's a slightly superior player, and because I prefer using a regular remote control as opposed to a game controller for movies. I chose not to invest extra in the PS3 remote.

When it comes to TV's too, all I ever hear is SONY, SONY, SONY! I respect the hell out of Sony, but I don't worship the company. Panasonic makes great plasmas, Samsung makes great LCD's & DLP's, and Sharp also makes great LCD's, but when you talk about the best high-end TV's on this forum, there is definitely a Sony bias. The only other thing I hear is that if you can't afford an expensive Sony TV, then buy a cheap Westinghouse, which isn't bad advise.

Sony does make very good TV's, but when I see polls showing that Sony is most people's favorite movie studio, I begin to scratch my head because that just doesn't seem right. It's a good studio, but the best - no way! That's just my opinion, though.

[Aaron]

Yes, it is user upgradeable. But since it is a 2.5 inch hard drive, it can only hold up to 200GB. I think Sony made a mistake by not using 3.5 inch hard drives. The only reason I can see that they didn't is to prevent ripping Blu-rays to the HDD.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by HiNRG

I'll warn you. For the next five years, if you ask anyone on this forum to choose between the PS3 and a non-Sony Blu-ray player, over 90% of the responses will be for the PS3. Sorry, I'm not to knocking the PS3, because it's an awesome player, but it has gone into my bedroom. The new Samsung BD-P1200 is now the Blu-ray player for my home theater, because it's a slightly superior player, and because I prefer using a regular remote control as opposed to a game controller for movies. I chose not to invest extra in the PS3 remote.

When it comes to TV's too, all I ever hear is SONY, SONY, SONY! I respect the hell out of Sony, but I don't worship the company. Panasonic makes great plasmas, Samsung makes great LCD's & DLP's, and Sharp also makes great LCD's, but when you talk about the best high-end TV's on this forum, there is definitely a Sony bias. The only other thing I hear is that if you can't afford an expensive Sony TV, then buy a cheap Westinghouse, which isn't bad advise.

Sony does make very good TV's, but when I see polls showing that Sony is most people's favorite movie studio, I begin to scratch my head because that just doesn't seem right. It's a good studio, but the best - no way! That's just my opinion, though.

you are right....I just bought a flat panel LCD from sony....I wanted the samsung, but they didn't have any in stock....so I went sony instead even though samsung had 2 hdmi....vs 1 hdmi...

I wish I had waited another 3 weeks for the Sharp 32" 1080p LCD that is out now...

that would have been the right buy....

I have a stable of sony products...and am almost a sony *****...but all of these purchases except my PS3 and my sony ericsson phone/headsets could have all gone either way...

to think that sony is the cream of the crop....well...it's good...but I could find superiod companies in almost every category that sony deals in....

but they are reliable...and if you have the money...sony isn't bad at all...it's just not mandatory...and sony certainly dominates a few areas...but they aren't "high end" IMO...except in TV's, portable devices or videogames..

[Shin-Ra]

Originally Posted by HiNRG

I'll warn you. For the next five years, if you ask anyone on this forum to choose between the PS3 and a non-Sony Blu-ray player, over 90% of the responses will be for the PS3. Sorry, I'm not to knocking the PS3, because it's an awesome player, but it has gone into my bedroom. The new Samsung BD-P1200 is now the Blu-ray player for my home theater, because it's a slightly superior player, and because I prefer using a regular remote control as opposed to a game controller for movies. I chose not to invest extra in the PS3 remote.

When it comes to TV's too, all I ever hear is SONY, SONY, SONY! I respect the hell out of Sony, but I don't worship the company. Panasonic makes great plasmas, Samsung makes great LCD's & DLP's, and Sharp also makes great LCD's, but when you talk about the best high-end TV's on this forum, there is definitely a Sony bias. The only other thing I hear is that if you can't afford an expensive Sony TV, then buy a cheap Westinghouse, which isn't bad advise.

Sony does make very good TV's, but when I see polls showing that Sony is most people's favorite movie studio, I begin to scratch my head because that just doesn't seem right. It's a good studio, but the best - no way! That's just my opinion, though.

MGM and possibly Columbia/Tristar weren't always seperate options for fav. movie studio in that thread so Sony with 20% MGM ownership was the most relevant option for some.

[BTBuck1]

without a matching black add on drive, no HDMI 1.3, i'd never buy the Elite.

ps3 4tmf'n win baby!

[Amon37]

Originally Posted by Zvi

Is PS3 hdd user officially user upgradeable? I'd be interested to get that and install 1tb HDD in it for sure.

It's so official, there are instructions on how to remove and replace the HDD in the PS3's manual.

[MatrixS2000]

Originally Posted by HiNRG

I'll warn you. For the next five years, if you ask anyone on this forum to choose between the PS3 and a non-Sony Blu-ray player, over 90% of the responses will be for the PS3. Sorry, I'm not to knocking the PS3, because it's an awesome player, but it has gone into my bedroom. The new Samsung BD-P1200 is now the Blu-ray player for my home theater, because it's a slightly superior player, and because I prefer using a regular remote control as opposed to a game controller for movies. I chose not to invest extra in the PS3 remote.

When it comes to TV's too, all I ever hear is SONY, SONY, SONY! I respect the hell out of Sony, but I don't worship the company. Panasonic makes great plasmas, Samsung makes great LCD's & DLP's, and Sharp also makes great LCD's, but when you talk about the best high-end TV's on this forum, there is definitely a Sony bias. The only other thing I hear is that if you can't afford an expensive Sony TV, then buy a cheap Westinghouse, which isn't bad advise.

Sony does make very good TV's, but when I see polls showing that Sony is most people's favorite movie studio, I begin to scratch my head because that just doesn't seem right. It's a good studio, but the best - no way! That's just my opinion, though.

That's a pretty wide brush your using to paint everyone here with....the only things that I have that are Sony are the PS3, a SD DVD player (now retired thanks to the PS3) and a universal remote (that's for sale by the way ).
Obviously I am not including movie titles.

I have 4 full HT setups (been doing this awhile) - none of the them have any Sony except for the 2 items I already mentioned....

Video camera, pic camera - all non-Sony.

I pick what I think is best in every category....

[Blu Tiger]

I already have a PS3 and a 360. I'm getting the Elite for LAN parties and to free up a much needed component input on my tv. You list wi-fi as a benefit for the PS3, but I think it sucks. Mine disconnects every minute or so. Finally, I turned my PS3 internet to a wired connection and just used a wireless linksys adapter to pick up the signal from my router. It works much better than the PS3's wifi.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by kiddtigger

I already have a PS3 and a 360. I'm getting the Elite for LAN parties and to free up a much needed component input on my tv. You list wi-fi as a benefit for the PS3, but I think it sucks. Mine disconnects every minute or so. Finally, I turned my PS3 internet to a wired connection and just used a wireless linksys adapter to pick up the signal from my router. It works much better than the PS3's wifi.

I don't use the wifi hardly at all...

I set it up for 1 day to see what it's like...

it was fine...slower downloads, but I didn't disconnect at all....and it was on for over 10 hours..

[WriteSimply]

To bypass the capacity and/or price limitations of 2.5" HDDs, you have to use a 3.5" HDD and it must reside outside of the PS3.

Get a 3.5" SATA HDD of your choice, an external SATA casing and get a male-to-female SATA cable.


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[MatrixS2000]

Or just get a usb cable and external drive and connect to a usb port!

Hey I think I might try that!

[WriteSimply]

Originally Posted by MatrixS2000

Or just get a usb cable and external drive and connect to a usb port!

Hey I think I might try that!

If you do this, your saves of your game data or game downloads will not be on this drive. It will be saved in the internal 2.5" SATA drive.


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[Unkn0wn47]

There is supposed to be a 350GB hard drive coming out later this summer; Alienware will be the first to use it!

[kknight]

Originally Posted by HiNRG

When it comes to TV's too, all I ever hear is SONY, SONY, SONY! I respect the hell out of Sony, but I don't worship the company. Panasonic makes great plasmas, Samsung makes great LCD's & DLP's, and Sharp also makes great LCD's, but when you talk about the best high-end TV's on this forum, there is definitely a Sony bias. The only other thing I hear is that if you can't afford an expensive Sony TV, then buy a cheap Westinghouse, which isn't bad advise.

Sony does make very good TV's, but when I see polls showing that Sony is most people's favorite movie studio, I begin to scratch my head because that just doesn't seem right. It's a good studio, but the best - no way! That's just my opinion, though.

Hey I was just like you, all I ever hear from people around me was buying Sony products. I wanted to give other companies a chance. Panasonic was my top brand. Sharp is good. Hitachi and JVC aren't bad... but the time I bought a PS3, I needed a 1080p LCD between 37" to 42". Sharp, Mitsubishi & Sony were the only ones at the time. I first bought a Mitsubishi, great LCDs with powered swirvel but the viewing angle wasn't that great. Same to Sharp, looking from the sides the picture got brighter or lighter. I brought it back and got a Sony, all I can say is 'wow!'. even though it's a little more expensive, it's worth it. The colors are nicer and more vivid, the viewing angle is flawless and the design is slick. I no longer have doubts about buying a Sony product.

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by kiddtigger

I already have a PS3 and a 360. I'm getting the Elite for LAN parties and to free up a much needed component input on my tv. You list wi-fi as a benefit for the PS3, but I think it sucks. Mine disconnects every minute or so. Finally, I turned my PS3 internet to a wired connection and just used a wireless linksys adapter to pick up the signal from my router. It works much better than the PS3's wifi.

I've used the wi-fi as our main connection without any problems. If you have a problem I would get it replaced as defective. I haven't heard or seen any problems with the wi-fi reported anywhere else. I will say that linksys routers suck in my experience so I'd make sure it wasn't the router..until we replaced it with an Apple basestation our windows laptop, apple laptop both had problems with connections crapping out every hour or so...requiring a hard reset. It's why we replaced it. Many routers are really bad and handling b/g connections at the same time for example. The router is often the more likely culprit than computers whether it be windows, linux, apple, PS3 or 360.

Wired is always better for any system..but most people put their PS3 by the T.V. and unless they had an Ethernet jack placed nearby wireless is the most useful/likely option for them to get on-line, so it has quite a bit of value from that perspective - it's another $100 dollars to add it the 360.

Regardless - it doesn't make the wireless of any less value.