Firmware 2.30 Is Here !!!

[saprano]

hey uktrublue does your AV also say 7.1?

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Cambrian

7.1 Mbits for sound...that's nuts!!!

I'll admit it, I'm a closet bit rate *****.

I think im becoming one

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Cambrian

7.1 Mbits for sound...that's nuts!!!

I'll admit it, I'm a closet bit rate *****.

thats the first time Iv seen 7.1 mbps. im use to 2 to 4, or 6.9.

[UKTruBlu]

Originally Posted by supersix4

what movie is that

SAW IV.

the MPBS audio rate goes higher than 7.1 while the movie is playing!!!! I got 7.3 just now!!!!!

[UKTruBlu]

Originally Posted by saprano

hey uktrublue does your AV also say 7.1?

ONKYO 605 just says: MCH PCM 7.1.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by UKTruBlu

ONKYO 605 just says: MCH PCM 7.1.

oh ok because at avs there saying the ps3 is not decoding all 7.1 channels only 5. ill get the quote.

[seigneur_rayden]

What's up with the bitrate? What's so special about them? How does it make the sound better or why are people so happy that the bitrate is going up? Don't be mad at me for asking.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by saprano

oh ok because at avs there saying the ps3 is not decoding all 7.1 channels only 5. ill get the quote.

yeah from what I read over there thats what they are whining about never mind the fact that we were only getting 1.5mbps or less ... I havent gotten to go down to any of our other tv rooms where we have 7.1 / 6.1 to see since everyones sleeping lol

Originally Posted by seigneur_rayden

What's up with the bitrate? What's so special about them? How does it make the sound better or why are people so happy that the bitrate is going up? Don't be mad at me for asking.

well its how much more quality is coming into the speakers, instead of compressing everything to like 480kbps like a dvd its letting it do its thing and the quality can just flow

[saprano]

have a look guys

Originally Posted by pulsation

Hey everyone,

Updated my PS3 around 11 PM and have been watching various Blu-Ray discs and making observations.

Discs I have watched since the update with DTS-HD MA:

Speed 5.1
DTS 2008 Blu-Ray Demo Disc 5.1/7.1
Oldboy 7.1
Pan's Labrynth 7.1
Shoot 'Em Up 7.1


What I have observed thus far:

Before I put any movies in, I decided to scroll over on the XMB to 'System Settings' and all the way to the bottom, I selected "System Information". This brings up a running "credits" of the PS3 with liscensing information about various software the system uses. You will find copyright information and logos for various codecs, like TrueHD, Java, and the like. I did see something interesting...before the update, there was a generic DTS logo like what is found on the side of the PS3 shell. Now, there is a new logo that reads "DTS-HD Master Audio | Limited". What this "Limited" business is all about I really have no idea, but I did find that interesting given what I have read so far on this board since the update and what I observed on my own.

All the DTS 7.1 MA tracks played perfectly on the DTS demo disc. I saw 7.1 on the PS3, 7.1 on my Pioneer Elite receiver, and I could hear sound loud and clear out of all 8 speakers. Oldboy also worked fine for 7.1 output as well. Pan's Labrynth and Shoot 'Em Up, on the other hand....was interesting.

Both of those discs seem to work correctly at first. When I started playing them the New Line High Definition intro plays in full 7.1 glory. However, once the actual movie starts, I see 7.1 on the PS3 info tab, but I only get 5.1 active channels on my AVR and the back surrounds are completely silent to my ears. The crazy thing is that the DTS Demo disc I have has a clip in 7.1 from New Line: Rush Hour 3, that plays perfectly!!!!

So what does this mean? This is not a PS3 issue, nor is it an Onkyo issue or a Pioneer issue. This is a software issue limited to certain New Line titles with DTS-HD MA 7.1, including Pan's Labrynth and Shoot 'Em Up. Dissapointing for sure, as I'm sure both of these sound outstanding in 7.1. My gut feeling says that it will be worked out, either in a disc re-issue or an update by Sony. Rest assured, THE PS3 IS PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF FULL 7.1 DTS-HD MA PLAYBACK. I believe Pan's Labrynth and Shoot 'Em Up are two isolated cases that will be fixed in time.

All things considered, tonight is a great night, indeed. I was pleasantly suprised as to how rubust these MA tracks sound. Speed has a great MA track, especially considering its age. Enjoy this guys, and don't fret about those two movies. Let us know if you find any other issues with 7.1 titles so we can make New Line aware of the problem.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...017825&page=11

[saprano]

Originally Posted by supersix4

yeah from what I read over there thats what they are whining about never mind the fact that we were only getting 1.5mbps or less ... I havent gotten to go down to any of our other tv rooms where we have 7.1 / 6.1 to see since everyones sleeping lol



well its how much more quality is coming into the speakers, instead of compressing everything to like 480kbps like a dvd its letting it do its thing and the quality can just flow

a.k.a uncompressed,bit for bit identicle to the original studio master

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by saprano

a.k.a uncompressed,bit for bit identicle to the original studio master

lol ahh the technical sum up

[HD_Maniac]

Thanks lgans316....you are saving my time...Arigatou gozaimasu....

[WriteSimply]

Don't fret about your bitrate meter not reaching 7Mbps or higher. DTS HDMA unlike DTS Core is a VARIABLE BITRATE lossless encoding scheme. This means in quiet scenes, the bitrate gets low and in complex audio scenes, like scenes with lots of music, it'll go higher.

I'm not surprised at all by the decoding scheme SCE has chose to put inside the PS3 as you can only put so much in the firmware. DTS HDMA has many ways to be decoded. For those with receivers that can decode DTS HDMA, you have greater flexibility in arranging your speaker setup.


fuad

[saprano]

what do you mean greater flexibility? whats the difference.

[UKTruBlu]

Originally Posted by WriteSimply

Don't fret about your bitrate meter not reaching 7Mbps or higher. DTS HDMA unlike DTS Core is a VARIABLE BITRATE lossless encoding scheme. This means in quiet scenes, the bitrate gets low and in complex audio scenes, like scenes with lots of music, it'll go higher.

I'm not surprised at all by the decoding scheme SCE has chose to put inside the PS3 as you can only put so much in the firmware. DTS HDMA has many ways to be decoded. For those with receivers that can decode DTS HDMA, you have greater flexibility in arranging your speaker setup.


fuad

Point taken, I have watched the movie and can let you know that the bit rate is as low as 4.8 in quiet but as high as 7.3 in louder scenes. All i can say is it sounds ****ING awesome!!! I don't think my neighbours would agree though!!!!

[Lord_Stewie]

just finished downloading and may i say. IT IS PERFFFEEEECT.

[katharsis]

Shoot 'Em Up

Wow this is gonna be so amazing. Need to go get a new receiver SOON!

[Marcusarilius]

Originally Posted by katharsis

The full meal deal! We have a new winner!

[saprano]

it looks like the 7.1 problem is only with new line titles

The issue is slight. It happened at first on the BD30 Blu-ray player that myself, and many others own. The player outputs 7.1 but the receiver sees it as 5.1, it IS ACTUALLY 7.1 even out of your speakers, but for some reason the receiver displays 5.1.

Now, this isn't a big issue because the signal is actually 7.1, you just have to get your head around this.

New Line has said before (because us BD30 owners made a fuss!) that it was something to do with the early versions of DTS:MA stamped onto their first releases (Such as Hairspray or Pan's Labyrinth).

The issue was resolved with a firmware update to the actual receivers, so perhaps this is an issue on Sony's end, anyway.... maybe I'll test it out on my own set up. I don't use the PS3 for Blu-ray anymore but I'll try it out and see.

This is a confirmed issue at the moment though. Just thought I'd let you guys know.

http://ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=133419

[MOONPHASE]

Watching Simpson's movie and sounds great