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Old 09-01-2013, 08:07 PM   #841
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The price difference was about $12, but technically the only difference was shipping was so high through DarkDel and very low through CLM.

Please be aware, in case you aren't, that it is no longer possible to order a signed copy.
Exactly. About ~$12 for 20-30 signatures, sounds like a great deal to me!
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Old 09-01-2013, 08:13 PM   #842
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That is true, and it is also sad. This type of thing is EXACTLY what I expected when blu-ray was being touted as the next great thing and they were saying how many extras would be included and that it was a "film fanatic's dream." The only set that remotely lived up to that claim were the ones for the Alien series. This documentary SHOULD have been bought by WB and SHOULD have been included with the boxset. I can't believe we're now paying extra for extras.
You do realize that the Boxset is a CATALOG release. It is clearly being put out on the cheap. So just like I ask all the weirdos in that thread, why would a cheap skate company like Warner invest so much in films they will most likely not even have the rights to in a few years????

Had it happened the way you wanted, that box set would easily be over 100 bucks...and how many copies would that price tag sell???

As sad as it is, Warner is thinking about the bottom line...money. They know they won't sell a ton, so why invest so much money into it???

This is the new American way people. Crap jobs that give crap pay that you can use to buy a crap product!!!!

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Old 09-01-2013, 08:16 PM   #843
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Nope not an Amazon employee, just a customer with common sense.
You example, by far, is the exception, not the rule. This is further compounded on your part, as you kept the item for 30 days before opening it.
So again, I have no idea what point you're trying to make? That people sometimes receive faulty items, whether from large companies or small? Okay. I guess we can file that next to:
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Again, according to your original post, you held the item for 30 days. Past Amazon's 'return window'. If you learn anything from this experience, I would hope you learn to thoroughly examine your items upon arrival.
How does that saying go:
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Dude, don't even try arguing with that guy. Guy just complains 24-7 about every single thing that if Friday the 13th and how each product is never good enough for him.

Pretty soon we shall have 180 pages in this thread of him complaining about the glue the book do or didn't use!!!
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Old 09-01-2013, 08:20 PM   #844
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So have any more names been added to the signing? Need to decide this weekend whether to cancel my order or not...
I think the only new one in the last update, from the actual films, was Julie Michaels, who was the FBI agent that set Jason up in Hell.

The list of the actual Doc credits looks longer too...but those people aren't Friday alums per say.
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Old 09-01-2013, 08:37 PM   #845
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The list of the actual Doc credits looks longer too...but those people aren't Friday alums per say.
It was honestly pretty stupid of me to not think "25-30" would've meant around 10 people behind the actual documentary in question, but that totally failed to cross my mind when it was first announced and I pre-ordered it. Sorry to say that even if I like the documentary a bunch I wouldn't have cared about those sigs much. Farrands, Hutson, and Bracke, sure. Beyond that, meh.
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:11 AM   #846
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I would think so or else the producers are on to a proper winner using all them people to make them money.
Then documentarians in general are really running a racket, because it is common practice not to pay interview subjects, rather than the opposite.
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:14 AM   #847
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Really? I'm thrilled we're getting this as a separate release and not thrown into a box set, especially since I'm not likely to get that one.
Selling it separately would have still been a possibility.

I'll inevitably get the boxset for Christmas from someone as everyone knows I'm a Friday fanatic, but I won't be buying it myself, either (although having Crystal Lake Memories included would make it a day one purchase for me). I already own the first 2 (by far the best of the series, followed by 4 and 6) on Blu and the only real reason I could justify the expense is if part 3 was FINALLY in true 3D, but it isn't.
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:45 AM   #848
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Even if they don't necessarily pay the participants, they pay for their plane tickets, or they pay for the trip to go and interview the participants(which would be the ones not interviewed in front of greenscreen). For Never Sleep Again, they even went to Hong Kong to interview Ronny Yu and the UK to interview Stephen Hopkins.

As you can imagine, money is burnt up fast.
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Old 09-02-2013, 01:11 AM   #849
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It was honestly pretty stupid of me to not think "25-30" would've meant around 10 people behind the actual documentary in question, but that totally failed to cross my mind when it was first announced and I pre-ordered it. Sorry to say that even if I like the documentary a bunch I wouldn't have cared about those sigs much. Farrands, Hutson, and Bracke, sure. Beyond that, meh.
While I agree getting people from the doc isn't as cool as getting more sigs from people from the movies, if you go to a convention and try to get even 15 of these sigs, you're looking at a helluva lot more than an extra $12. I'd totally be satisfied spending that amount for all that's included in that particular set. Too bad I missed the boat on that one, but I did pre-order from CLM, so I'm covered on the extra disc version. Although it'd be nice of them to shoot me an email confirming purchase, considering they've taken my money. I'm sure there'll be an email confirming shipping (at least there better be one). Is it supposed to arrive on the 13th or ship on the 13th? I hope arrive!
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:13 AM   #850
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I want to order from CLM, to get the bonus disc, but I need English subtitles. I know the main documentary has it, but does the bonus disc have subtitles? If not then I might as well order from amazon. Anyone have any concrete info on that? I really want the bonus disc.
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:37 AM   #851
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You do realize that the Boxset is a CATALOG release. It is clearly being put out on the cheap.
Then why is it so ridiculously expensive? I've gotten plenty of sets FULL of extras for a LOT less. And you said it above, it's a catalog release. It should be less than $50 as it is (the individual movies -- the best of the series -- have been on sale multiple times for like $6; even at that price the set would be $72) or they should put a bunch of new extras in, give the true 3D version of part 3 and then charge their outrageous $100 price.
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:38 AM   #852
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I think the only new one in the last update, from the actual films, was Julie Michaels, who was the FBI agent that set Jason up in Hell.
Sooooooooooooooo sexy!
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:55 AM   #853
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Canceled my F13 set pre-order, but am still looking forward to this doc. I'm sure watching this will make me change my mind and I'll order the set again, but I'll give it some time.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:55 AM   #854
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Nope not an Amazon employee, just a customer with common sense.
You example, by far, is the exception, not the rule. This is further compounded on your part, as you kept the item for 30 days before opening it.
So again, I have no idea what point you're trying to make? That people sometimes receive faulty items, whether from large companies or small? Okay. I guess we can file that next to:
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Again, according to your original post, you held the item for 30 days. Past Amazon's 'return window'. If you learn anything from this experience, I would hope you learn to thoroughly examine your items upon arrival.
How does that saying go:
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
Apparently you feel it's acceptable for an expensive book like that to literally fall apart upon it's first day of reading. You're stuck on Amazon. As I said, I put much more of the blame on the manufacturer, who should have replaced the book as a token of good faith for an unhappy customer. I was not happy with Amazon's decision, but I did understand it, as it was past 30 days. But the manufacturer not standing behind their own product is totally unacceptable.

If you think it's okay, whatever. If it was your book I'm sure you would have fired off a letter to the book manufacturer too. As was mentioned previously, the book was inspected - and it appeared new and in perfect condition - obviously the glue was not applied correctly, and that only became apparent after reading the book for a few hours.

Whatever. Not worth arguing about. It's sitting on my shelf with a to of loose pages and I'm stuck with it.

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Believe it or not, but the youtube clips and segments may very well help to sell additional copies of the release. Had I not seen the "Never Sleep Again" documentary first, I never would have purchased it or this. I've seen more then my fair share of boring uninspired documentary's on various movies, but the amount of work that the folks behind these releases put it in is inspiring. Had I not viewed it with my own eyes first though, I never would have known that, and never would have cared.
Absolutely. Good point. Many people see clips on youtube and later purchase the item. I have done that myself, absolutely. In this case, I want this on my shelf - lousy youtube quality would never do. But youtube clips can absolutely lead to sales.

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I agree. Kind of my take on the dreaded Rental Copy I receive from Netflix. I sure wish the studios would do away with them. I can't speak for everyone, but rarely do I purchase a movie because the rental didn't come with extras. If anything it has the opposite affect on me, as it turns me off to wanting to purchase. So for every 1 BD I actually buy, because I want to see the extras, there are about 20 I pass on. The studio's loss as far as I'm concerned.
Good point there. I used to rent Netflix discs to see sometimes if the extras were good enough to buy and put on my shelf, but once I started figuring out about all their "rental only" discs with no extras, I started turning exclusively to online reviews and forums to learn about the extras, as I could no longer rely on the Netflix discs for an accurate preview of what the retail disc would be.

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Dude, don't even try arguing with that guy. Guy just complains 24-7 about every single thing that if Friday the 13th and how each product is never good enough for him.

Pretty soon we shall have 180 pages in this thread of him complaining about the glue the book do or didn't use!!!
Dude, you've done nothing but cause chaos and arguments in that thread, and many have tried putting you in your place over there. All you do is argue over there with anybody who doesn't think that set is the best thing since Jason was originally conceived by Paramount. I've contributed a lot to the discussion over there, and I, like many, think it's a piss-poor set. But you get personally offended over there any time somebody voices their concerns over the set.

I see you continue to spread your joy around. You've got a real attitude in these threads, and others have said so as well. You specifically attack me often, when I just try to ignore you.

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Old 09-02-2013, 04:06 AM   #857
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Then why is it so ridiculously expensive? I've gotten plenty of sets FULL of extras for a LOT less. And you said it above, it's a catalog release. It should be less than $50 as it is (the individual movies -- the best of the series -- have been on sale multiple times for like $6; even at that price the set would be $72) or they should put a bunch of new extras in, give the true 3D version of part 3 and then charge their outrageous $100 price.
I would LOVE to know which box sets (with 12 movies) you've gotten for less than 80 bucks.
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Old 09-02-2013, 04:42 AM   #858
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I would LOVE to know which box sets (with 12 movies) you've gotten for less than 80 bucks.
Those themed box sets with 50 crappy public domain movies. Those are pretty cheap.
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:38 PM   #859
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Apparently you feel it's acceptable for an expensive book like that to literally fall apart upon it's first day of reading. You're stuck on Amazon. As I said, I put much more of the blame on the manufacturer, who should have replaced the book as a token of good faith for an unhappy customer. I was not happy with Amazon's decision, but I did understand it, as it was past 30 days. But the manufacturer not standing behind their own product is totally unacceptable.

If you think it's okay, whatever. If it was your book I'm sure you would have fired off a letter to the book manufacturer too. As was mentioned previously, the book was inspected - and it appeared new and in perfect condition - obviously the glue was not applied correctly, and that only became apparent after reading the book for a few hours.

Whatever. Not worth arguing about. It's sitting on my shelf with a to of loose pages and I'm stuck with it.
Of course I'm "stuck" on Amazon, because that were all my purchased(especially in this case) begin & end. Had I gotten the same book, opened it and found it to be faulty I would've returned it right away. If the replacement would've been in the same condition I would return that one as well. I would've kept doing so until one of two things happened:
1) I got a product I was happy with
2) I cancelled the order

No matter what the outcome, the bottom line is I wouldn't have been stuck with a defective product. Which is why some of the blame falls back on you the buyer, for not doing due diligence...granted special circumstances were involved.

But yep, not worth the debate.
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And when did the manufacturer actually manufacture the book you had in your possession?
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