Blu-ray Vs Streaming/downloading

[Mr.Twinks]

Originally Posted by bigshot

I have a 1080p projection system, and I also have Roku Netflix and Warner Archive with Verizon fast internet. The streaming stuff looks and sounds just as good as my blu-ray disks. I like owning physical media, but the streaming stuff matches it in quality.

The biggest fail post I have read today.

[Markgway]

I'll pay for streaming and/or downloads when hell freezes over.

[KRW1]

I project my Netflix too, on a 1080p system and it doesn't approach bluray for quality. It's an additional TV channel, nothing more. 95% of our TV watching is off the internet, with Iplayer, 4od and Netflix. I'd never consider them anything more than that.

[Jar Jar Stinks]

Originally Posted by Mr.Twinks

The biggest fail post I have read today.

Depending on his/her equipment, it's not an unreasonable assessment. Check out this analysis of Django Unchained.

[Talal86]

I love Netflix, but I don't use it as a substitute for blu rays, I think the quality is amazing, I don't know what people are talking about
I'm watching Attack on Titan on Hulu and it's glorious HD

[arcadeforest]

As with many on here my preference is to watch and own a film on bluray over streaming. With that said I love having the ability to stream films and tv shows through services such as NetFlix, Hulu+, Amazon, etc. Been able to see quite a few films and shows that I would of been hesitant to buy. Hulu+ has a great collection of Criterion titles that have been great to watch without the fear of a blind buy.

[Packerfan75]

There's hope that Hollywood won't rush digital downloads as they show signs they do understand that there are those of us who like having physical media. I'm reminded of that every time I see slipcovers, steelbooks and special editions with new artwork. I know I just like having something there to look at, look through and grab when I want to watch something. I can't imagine all those cool looking box sets and cases missing. Or not being able to go to the store to browse. Fortunately, the hard drive technology isn't there to accommodate our full libraries....yet.

[SammymeBlu]

I will only and continue to buy only physical media until the day it is no longer available to do so,same thing with my music cd collection.

[bigshot]

Originally Posted by Mr.Twinks

The biggest fail post I have read today.

Then I'll ask you... What is your internet connections speed? Are you being capped? What streaming services do you use?

Everyone talks about streaming without answering the questions that determine the picture and sound quality streaming provides.

[bigshot]

Originally Posted by KRW1

I project my Netflix too, on a 1080p system and it doesn't approach bluray for quality.

What is your connection speed? Does your provider cap your connection?

With my high speed FIOS connection, I never buffer. There is just about a one second section when I first hit play where the picture is a little fuzzy, like DVD quality, then it snaps in to high def and surround sound and plays that way to the end of the movie. I've looked at streaming movies that I have on blu-ray and they look pretty much identical. I would probably have to freeze frame and walk right up to the screen to see any difference at all.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by SammymeBlu

I will only and continue to buy only physical media until the day it is no longer available to do so,same thing with my music cd collection.

Physical media isn't going anywhere because if it was, DVD would not survived for 17 years, and the sale for used and new DVDs is moderate. The rapid growth of Blu-ray sales, is just beginning to skyrocket.

[bigshot]

If that's true, why do I see so many movies on Netflix and Warner Archive in HD streaming that have never been released on blu-ray? If blu-ray was the most financially beneficial format, wouldn't they be released on blu-ray first, then be released to streaming later?

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by bigshot

If that's true, why do I see so many movies on Netflix and Warner Archive in HD streaming that have never been released on blu-ray? If blu-ray was the most financially beneficial format, wouldn't they be released on blu-ray first, then be released to streaming later?

same reason cable channels always have a ton of HD movies that haven't hit blu-ray (and sometimes DVD). licenses and old HDTV masters that aren't up to blu-ray snuff etc. This is nothing new

[Jar Jar Stinks]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Physical media isn't going anywhere because if it was, DVD wouldn't have survive 17 years, and DVD and blu-ray is still successful.

Past performance cannot be used to predict future results.

Also, please define successful. As previously mentioned, both Best Buy and Walmart's Blu-ray sections have shrunk down to almost nothing in the past year.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

Past performance cannot be used to predict future results.

Also, please define successful.

This article is paste from a previous thread:

Blu-ray, Digital Keep 2012 First-Half Consumer Spending Positive

Strong double-digit growth of Blu-ray Disc sales coupled with digital distribution helped increase home entertainment consumer spending nearly 1.4% during the first six months of 2012, according to new data from DEG: The Digital Entertainment Group.

Total consumer spending, which includes subscription video-on-demand, topped $8.4 billion compared to $8.3 billion last year.

Blu-ray, spurred by catalog, continued to grow steadily at double-digital rates with consumer spending on discs up 13.3% compared to the same period last year. Catalog titles increased 26%, further cementing the notion that Blu-ray has become the standard in home entertainment.

The number of Blu-ray homes continued to rise, with 1.4 million Blu-ray players (inclusive of BD set-tops, PS3s and HTiBs,) sold in the second quarter, bringing the total household penetration of all Blu-ray compatible devices to more than 42.1 million U.S. homes.

Total physical sellthrough, which includes DVD, dipped 3.6% to $3.7 billion from $3.8 billion last year. When factoring in electronic, total sellthough declined nearly 2% to $4 billion from $4.1 billion.

Digital distribution, which includes electronic sellthrough (EST), transactional video-on-demand and subscription VOD services such as Netflix, surged more than 77% to $2.4 billion compared to $1.3 billion last year.

Notably, EST increased nearly 22% to $329 million compared to $270 million last year. Electronic sellthough grew 27% in the second quarter compared to Q2 in 2011. Additionally, transactional VOD was up 11.6% to $983 million compared to $881 million in the mid-year of 2011, including a 17.2% increase in the second quarter compared to Q2 2011.

Subscription VOD revenue topped $1.1 billion, up 430% from $208 million last year.

The rental business – with the exception of kiosks – continued to decline, with total revenue, including VOD, dropping 17.6% to $3.2 billion compared to $3.9 billion last year.

Kiosks, spearheaded by Redbox, grew revenue to $990 million, up nearly 23% from $805 million last year.

Brick and mortal video store revenue fell more than 33% to $597 million from $896 million, while by-mail disc rentals plummeted 50% to $671 million from more than $1.3 billion last year.

Cloud-based digital locker platform UltraViolet recently surpassed 4 million household accounts. The growth of UltraViolet underscores the notion consumers are responding favorably to the increased availability of EST, as well as the growing range of UltraViolet services.

Finally, more than 4.6 million HDTVs were sold to U.S. consumers in second quarter 2012; HDTV penetration to date is nearly 80 million U.S. households.

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/ind...positive-27937

Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

As previously mentioned, both Best Buy and Walmart's Blu-ray sections have shrunk down to almost nothing in the past year.

This is caused by the popularity and convenience of online shopping.

[bigshot]

Originally Posted by wormraper

same reason cable channels always have a ton of HD movies that haven't hit blu-ray (and sometimes DVD). licenses and old HDTV masters that aren't up to blu-ray snuff etc.

I watched The Great Ziegfeld on Warner Archive streaming the other night and it looked beautiful. The same goes for Werner Herzog's Cave of Forgotten Dreams on Netflix. Both of those were totally up to blu-ray snuff.

The reason these haven't been released to blu-ray yet is because they make more money by streaming it. I can't think of any other reason than that.

[Jar Jar Stinks]

Originally Posted by slimdude

This is caused by the popularity and convenience of online shopping.

I would attribute it to streaming and VOD, which, according to the article you posted, is up over 400%.

I believe DVD sales peaked at something like $20 billion annually. I can't foresee Blu-rays capturing even half of that.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bigshot

I watched The Great Ziegfeld on Warner Archive streaming the other night and it looked beautiful. The same goes for Werner Herzog's Cave of Forgotten Dreams on Netflix. Both of those were totally up to blu-ray snuff.

I call bull (in my opinion) I have fibre and Netflix looks good. No denying that. However, let's not get ahead of ourselves. It absolutely does not look anywhere near bluray. Just check out any solid coloured background. Are you watching on a small tv? Anyway, good luck with watching 4k content via streaming. Maybe that will compare with bluray? 10 years from now. Well, you have had plenty bait biters, so back to the 4k forum I go.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

I would attribute it to streaming and VOD, which, according to the article you posted, is up over 400%.

I believe DVD sales peaked at something like $20 billion annually. I can't foresee Blu-rays capturing even half of that.

It might if I keep spending so much on new discs. My display is packed to the rafters.

[Mr.Twinks]

Originally Posted by bigshot

Then I'll ask you... What is your internet connections speed? Are you being capped? What streaming services do you use?

Everyone talks about streaming without answering the questions that determine the picture and sound quality streaming provides.

Fioptics, 50mbps, no, Vudu HDX Netflix superhd and Amazon streaming.

Not saying it isn't watchable but when you compare to watching most BD, streaming falls short in PQ and in SQ.