Predator 3D Blu-ray (1987) [Region Locked]

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Spooked

That just seems a bit weird to me. If they're already pressing a new disc, why not just port the extras over from the UHE? I mean why have 2 different transfers of the same movie (one of which is awful) in the same set?

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Yeah, something doesn't sound right.

But, maybe the new 2D version is actually pretty grainy and the UHE is for those who hate the grain. That coupled with the 3D satisfies what anyone could want with this movie.

Guys, you're overlooking the fact that frame-packed 1080p 3D tends to take up a bunch of space. 3D + extras on the same platter is the exception, not the rule. Only movies short enough (Underworld Awakening @ 88 mins) or those released as a single 3D/2D SKU (Dredd) tend to come with extras included on the same disc.

Pretty much everything else has a specific disc of extras (Resident Evil 5, Amazing Spider-Man, Prometheus, Titanic etc) OR a proper 2D SKU is included in the package which has the extras (Top Gun, Jurassic Park, the Marvel 3D titles). Third option is not to bother with any extras at all, e.g. Avatar (which is basically a promo disc anyway) and Fox's US/UK versions of I, Robot and Jumper.

I hope that the UK version of Predator 3D doesn't come with any additional discs, because I don't want the UHE and I've already got the 2-disc DVD.

[wesslan]

I have no problem with the UHE as a extra disc as long as I get a new remastered 3D version playable in 2D.

[Tech-UK]

This has probably been mentioned in here but according to Amazon.fr, the French release features:

contains:
- Blu-ray film active 3D and 2D
- DVD film
lenticular sleeve

(Google translator).

http://www.amazon.fr/Predator-3D-Blu-ray/dp/B00F8MJE70?SubscriptionId=AKIAIY4YSQJMFDJATNBA&tag =bluraycom05-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creative ASIN=B00F8MJE70&m=A1X6FK5RDHNB96

Love that slip though.

[Lucif3r]

Anyone know if the limited head from Fox will include the slip?

Pics don't show it but the Amazon Exclusive for France does.

[Geoff D]

Looks like everyone's doing their own thing. France gets the 3D disc and a DVD. UK gets the 3D disc. Germany and the US get the 3D disc and the UHE.

[bowlingbilly10]

Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

Not all do, the majority are locked and come with a separate 2D disc but there are a few out there (ie Dredd/Underworld Awakening)

Ummm, I thought dredd and underworld awaking both have the 2d and 3d versions on the same disc? that's what it is on my copies.

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by tylergfoster

Clear confirmation: US release will be a 2-disc set. Disc 1 will be the new transfer, viewable in 3D and 2D, like other 20th Century Fox 3D releases. Disc 2 will be the UHE.

https://twitter.com/FinnAtFox/status/392709934371975168

So basically the UHE is being included purely for the extras?

So the 3D disc is going to be like the BD of Dredd which let's people view the transfer in 2D on 2D only players?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

"UK and Germany will release the Blu-ray 3D with the 2D BD disc (Ultimate Hunter Edition), including all the extras." @finnatfox


The UHE contains some HD extras that do not appear on the DVD. You may want to check them out.

I can live without a handful of short featurettes. Heck, I can't even remember the last time that I watched the extras on the DVD. But if the UHE is included, I suppose I can retire the DVD.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I can live without a handful of short featurettes. Heck, I can't even remember the last time that I watched the extras on the DVD. But if the UHE is included, I suppose I can retire the DVD.

The question is, why does the UK listing for the release only show 1 disk?

I imagine most of the future catalog 3D conversions using the JVC business model will be bare bones 1 disk releases, that will show up without promotion, just as the U K release of Jumper 3D did back in August.

[Indiana Jones]

Originally Posted by bowlingbilly10

Ummm, I thought dredd and underworld awaking both have the 2d and 3d versions on the same disc? that's what it is on my copies.

Looks like I was mistaken regarding Dredd which has separate encodes for the 2D and 3D but Underworld Awakening and some other films just contain the 3D encode and when you playback these discs on a regular BD player it gives you just the left eye track.

[nycomet]

Although I feel a 3D conversion of Predator is unnecessary, I am lured to buy this item only because of the packaging (it's not the first time).

It all comes down to one thing:

[Show spoiler]I have a penis. Therefore, I MUST own this!!!!

Yeah, it's a guy thing.

[Deciazulado]

I guess that's what they mean when they say "Information wants to be free"

[bowlingbilly10]

Originally Posted by nycomet

Although I feel a 3D conversion of Predator is unnecessary, I am lured to buy this item only because of the packaging (it's not the first time).

It all comes down to one thing:

[Show spoiler]I have a penis. Therefore, I MUST own this!!!!

Yeah, it's a guy thing.

I kinda don't mind that predator gets the 3d treatment. There's some scenes that actually would look cool in 3d. I wish this had a 3d threatical re-release. It would have been awesome to see this on the big screen for the first time. I wasn't even born when it was released in the 80s.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

Looks like I was mistaken regarding Dredd which has separate encodes for the 2D and 3D but Underworld Awakening and some other films just contain the 3D encode and when you playback these discs on a regular BD player it gives you just the left eye track.

Where did you hear that about Dredd? Just because there's an actual 2D standalone in some markets, e.g. France, doesn't mean that the 2D version on the 3D disc is the same encode, because it's not. Same goes for Sony's 2D version of Underworld Awakening, which looks quite different from the 3D/2D disc.

Basically, if you ever see a 3D disc which has a 2D playable version on it, they're both part of the same MVC encode. Viewing "just" the left eye is exactly how the 2D version is supposed to work.

[raygendreau]

Since many of you don't make it over to the 2D thread on this 3D release:

It has been confirmed that in the UK, Germany, and the U S, that the two disk release will include the Ultimate Hunter Edition released in 2010 in order to provide the extras that will not fit on the 3D/2D disk. The 3D/2D disk will play on 3D equipment in 2D and 3D and in 2D on 2D equipment. When you watch this in 2D you will be watching the left eye image of the 3D transfer, which is for all practical purposes, the UHE. It is likely that no new scan of the source (OCN) was involved. Any perceived difference between the UHE and the new 3D disk can be attributed to changes made during the 3D JVC conversion process. There may be additional 3D elements added, but that has not been confirmed.

[Geoff D]

Point-scoring between forums members aside....is the source for the 3D version the same shitty transfer as the UHE or isn't it?

Or did Finn simply concede that he doesn't actually know what's on the godamned disc?

[tylergfoster]

I feel obligated not to comment on that. The way I read my PMs, I should not be saying who I talked to, or the nature of what was discussed beyond the fact that it relates to Predator 3D. The deleted posts expressed my desire to take back anything ray felt was insulting -- I said stuff like "you're crazy" without believing it to be much of an insult, but of course what is important is how ray feels, so, I'm sorry -- but also that there's not much to discuss until the disc is out and people can see for themselves.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by tylergfoster

I feel obligated not to comment on that. Although, I think you can infer at this point that the tone here is not good.

Oh, crap. Good job I've still got the original Blu-ray. And now I'm off to cancel my 3D order. I don't care how good the conversion is if the underlying transfer is the same garbage as the UHE.

Chalk another one up to ray-ray.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Point-scoring between forums members aside....is the source for the 3D version the same shitty transfer as the UHE or isn't it?

Or did Finn simply concede that he doesn't actually know what's on the godamned disc?

Originally Posted by tylergfoster

I feel obligated not to comment on that. Although, I think you can infer at this point that the tone here is not good.

As you can see from Geoff's remarks Tyler, the cat is still in the bag.

The only person I know that can answer that question with authority is Ian Harvey, Fox Technology VP who isn't talking. Every element required to answer your question appears in this thread. Perhaps you should spend a little time reviewing posts from July and August?

Something to consider is that the folks at Fox who are sitting at the JVC workstation have had sufficient time with I, Robot, Jumper and now Predator, to become proficient at the job. That's a plus.

[nagysaudio]

4K scan from the OCN from Fox (i.e. Fantastic Voyage, etc.) for one of the best movies ever made. Coming to Blu-ray in no time. What exactly are you peeps complaining about? Don't like the movie, or something?