What the hell is up with FOX?

[LeoneFan]

I was looking at the release list for the next couple of months and there isn't even a single Fox title on the list. What's going on? Why are they leaving the rest of the Blu-ray studios out there to dry? Do they really think the new copy protection is going to make a difference? I'm sorry but this is very dissapointing and a huge blow to the format. I was really looking forward to some of their classic releases for May and June. After all the talk at CES they really dropped the ball.

[GasCat]

I can't blame them for waiting if it is the copy protection problem. The true push towards HD is months/years away. So they are in no hurry. Hopefully they will release a hundred movies all at the same time.

There are some good movies still available without Fox's new releases.

[jbuttler007]

You're right, they need to just get back on the saddle.

[goodstuff]

Yeah, I was very much looking forward to Edward Scissorhands next month.

[BLu-Balls]

I just wish Dodgeball and Commando would have beat the pull

"You made me bleed my own blood.... Nobody makes me bleed my own blood. Nobody!"

[movies3]

well the funny thing is, yes the copy protection is nice in all but do you really think some body isnt going to break it someday anyways?? copies will be made again maybe not this yr or next but they will.
Come on FOX give us some mOVIES!! lol

[GTP]

Originally Posted by movies3

well the funny thing is, yes the copy protection is nice in all but do you really think some body isnt going to break it someday anyways?? copies will be made again maybe not this yr or next but they will.
Come on FOX give us some mOVIES!! lol

I believe there are two more levels of copy protection to be added.
Hopefully they will start releasing again when the first level is ready.

[thunderhawk]

AACS is fixed already. Fox is waiting for BD+ to get ready too...
Soon it will.

[Shin-Ra]

Originally Posted by goodstuff

Yeah, I was very much looking forward to Edward Scissorhands next month.

Didn't know that was coming, something to look forward to then when they're back in the action! Must add it to my list.

[DaveFi]

Originally Posted by thunderhawk

AACS is fixed already. Fox is waiting for BD+ to get ready too...
Soon it will.

It's irrelevant. Whatever copy protection they use will be hacked. It's only a matter of time...

[HDTV1080P]

We all better hope the BD+ is a good and secure copy protection. I get the feeling that 20th Century Fox would never release movies in any HDTV format unless it is 100% secure. If a hole in the security is found again in an AACS player then 20th Century Fox might decide to only release movies on DVD. I can not blame them. 20th Century Fox owns the movies and they do not want 1080P HDTV movies one day available for free to anyone that has a hard drive or BLU-RAY burner.
Hackers could kill both the HD-DVD and BLU-RAY format since some studios if the pirating of HDTV movies gets bad enough, then they will only release movies in the 480I DVD format until a secure HDTV format is developed. BD+ hopefully will be the solution.

[DaveFi]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

We all better hope the BD+ is a good and secure copy protection. I get the feeling that 20th Century Fox would never release movies in any HDTV format unless it is 100% secure. If a hole in the security is found again in an AACS player then 20th Century Fox might decide to only release movies on DVD. I can not blame them. 20th Century Fox owns the movies and they do not want 1080P HDTV movies one day available for free to anyone that has a hard drive or BLU-RAY burner.
Hackers could kill both the HD-DVD and BLU-RAY format since some studios if the pirating of HDTV movies gets bad enough, then they will only release movies in the 480I DVD format until a secure HDTV format is developed. BD+ hopefully will be the solution.

Please don't use bold for your entire post, there is no reason for it.

And as to what you said it makes no sense. Even FOX must realize eventually whatever copy protection they use will eventually be hacked. It hasn't stopped them from releasing day and date titles, they just pulled all their catalog titles until BD+ is updated. That's the one good thing about BD+ is that it can be modified on the fly. A pain for us because it makes us wait longer for titles we want, but that's the game now we're going to play until the hackers figure a way to get past all the keys and makes all of BD+ updates irrelevant.

[GTP]

Originally Posted by thunderhawk

AACS is fixed already. Fox is waiting for BD+ to get ready too...
Soon it will.

Yes but isn't there two levels of protection to BD+...or have I been reading it wrong?

[dakota81]

Originally Posted by GasCat

I can't blame them for waiting if it is the copy protection problem. The true push towards HD is months/years away. So they are in no hurry. Hopefully they will release a hundred movies all at the same time.

There are some good movies still available without Fox's new releases.

While I agree with all of this - getting FOX & Disney to release movies in bulk for the holiday season is what's going to end this format war, and that's where the hurry is for us, who want an end to this pointless confusion for consumers.

Facts are there, the top 4 movies from last year are from FOX & Disney, and the 5th is Sony. Universal does not appear until #18. This year again, 4 of the top 10 so far are from FOX, Disney, & Sony, with Spiderman 3, Pirates 3, and The Simpsons added in as blu-ray exclusives this holiday season. Universal right now this year holds #13 as the highest hd-dvd exclusive.

If FOX hurries & releases movies, then those cheap Wal-Mart players have no chance. But if FOX & Disney keep holding off...

[JTK]

As long as they get big titles and plenty of them in time for the holiday season, all will be well.

Patience!

[The Shrike]

From everything I've read, those cheap Wal-Mart players are basically a non-issue. If they exist at all, the true translation seems to imply Blu-Ray. But they apparently don't exist at all, as the company rectracted their statement.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by DaveFi

Please don't use bold for your entire post, there is no reason for it.

And as to what you said it makes no sense. Even FOX must realize eventually whatever copy protection they use will eventually be hacked. It hasn't stopped them from releasing day and date titles, they just pulled all their catalog titles until BD+ is updated. That's the one good thing about BD+ is that it can be modified on the fly. A pain for us because it makes us wait longer for titles we want, but that's the game now we're going to play until the hackers figure a way to get past all the keys and makes all of BD+ updates irrelevant.

If 128-bit encryption is broken, we should start being very worried about our on-line transactions. They also use 128-bit encryption.

[coolmilo]

Question: Is the current copy protection that is in Blu-ray movies the same or similar to HD DVD movies? If so, was anything announced from the HD DVD camp to add an extra layer of copy protection similar to BD+?

My assumption is no, the red camp is not trying to improve the copy protection. If that is true then this is just another advantage for the blue camp with respect to how the movie studios view protecting their HD content.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by The Shrike

From everything I've read, those cheap Wal-Mart players are basically a non-issue. If they exist at all, the true translation seems to imply Blu-Ray. But they apparently don't exist at all, as the company rectracted their statement.

Correct.

[chrisshea]

whats the big fuss
all these movies who come out on blu-ray are on dvd and arent copy protected well u know what i mean

i mean its not like none of us is gonna start downloading 50 gigs for 1 1 h 30 minute movie and pay 15-20 per disk and then the burner for 300-700$ depending ont he sale
u can propably by the movie for less and wont take what liek 2-4 weeks to download if the guy has GOOD connection lol
they should relese there stuff now and who ever realy wants the movie will download the dvd-rip
its not cost efficent to rip the blu-rays