Another Inferior UK Release

[Kingclothier]

Ok so I ordered the first 3 Indiana Jones BD's that we're released on the 2nd of December this year which were stated to have iTunes digital copies with them, they have arrived today and guess what no digital copies included at all, I've started to get really annoyed at this I thought avengers was a blip from the Marvel/Disney releases but since Iron Man 3 and now Thor 2 preorders are up its clear they have ditched Digital Copies all together, which annoys me for 2 reasons ;

1: We pay for more blurays than Americans do simply because we are UK and apparently we love paying more for everything yet receiving less
2.: The fact that I love to collect solid copies of blurays but I travel a lot and enjoy having my films on my ipad either through iTunes or flixster, and setting up a bluray entertainment system in a train or on the bus isn't practical

... Rant Over

[darry]

Originally Posted by Kingclothier

Ok so I ordered the first 3 Indiana Jones BD's that we're released on the 2nd of December this year which were stated to have iTunes digital copies with them, they have arrived today and guess what no digital copies included at all, I've started to get really annoyed at this I thought avengers was a blip from the Marvel/Disney releases but since Iron Man 3 and now Thor 2 preorders are up its clear they have ditched Digital Copies all together, which annoys me for 2 reasons ;

1: We pay for more blurays than Americans do simply because we are UK and apparently we love paying more for everything yet receiving less
2.: The fact that I love to collect solid copies of blurays but I travel a lot and enjoy having my films on my ipad either through iTunes or flixster, and setting up a bluray entertainment system in a train or on the bus isn't practical

... Rant Over

you could buy a bluray reader and rip personal copies yourself.

[ravenus]

Originally Posted by Kingclothier

1: We pay for more blurays than Americans do simply because we are UK and apparently we love paying more for everything yet receiving less

Not always true. Several times I have found UK boxsets much cheaper than the US versions - Alien, Superman, Universal Classic Monsters, Back to The Future etc. The UK also receives some releases well before the US.

[Kingclothier]

Originally Posted by darry

you could buy a bluray reader and rip personal copies yourself.

I have a couple hundred blurays I used to do it with my DVDs but with blurays it took too long and I have 6TB worth of films on external HDs I would just prefer to have a copy in the cloud that I can download to my device before a journey and then enjoy my film

[Kingclothier]

Originally Posted by ravenus

Not always true. Several times I have found UK boxsets much cheaper than the US versions - Alien, Superman, Universal Classic Monsters, Back to The Future etc. The UK also receives some releases well before the US.

Yeah but on the editions early we always lack additional features, such as extras like directors commentary, often miss concept art and production clips, almost always miss a digital copy now (although UV) is on the rise) it is not fair

[2099net]

I agree. UK releases are often inferior and the messaging about what's actually included pre-release is often incomplete or downright wrong. How hard can it really be for a studio to pass on the information about what's on their disc? It shouldn't be rocket science.

Of course, the traditional response of not buying a product you are unhappy with doesn't really work - the studios just see this as lack of interest in physical media and will use flat sales to push their digital downloads/streaming even more.

I'm afraid all you can do is [1] buy the US version (if possible) and [2] write or email the studio and tell them why you decided to buy another release of their product.

[malcy30]

Originally Posted by Kingclothier

Ok so I ordered the first 3 Indiana Jones BD's that we're released on the 2nd of December this year which were stated to have iTunes digital copies with them, they have arrived today and guess what no digital copies included at all, I've started to get really annoyed at this I thought avengers was a blip from the Marvel/Disney releases but since Iron Man 3 and now Thor 2 preorders are up its clear they have ditched Digital Copies all together, which annoys me for 2 reasons ;

1: We pay for more blurays than Americans do simply because we are UK and apparently we love paying more for everything yet receiving less
2.: The fact that I love to collect solid copies of blurays but I travel a lot and enjoy having my films on my ipad either through iTunes or flixster, and setting up a bluray entertainment system in a train or on the bus isn't practical

... Rant Over

I thought Indiana Jones was still Paramount and not Disney ? even though Lucasfilms got sold to them.

Anyway with Paramount they have pretty much given up on digital copies as missed from Flight, Jack Reacher etc in the UK.

Only Paramount title in the UK I have seen this year with a digital copy (was an itunes code), was Star Trek Into Darkness.

Other studios here have all moved to Ultraviolet via Flixster or Sony website, so that applies to Sony, Universal, Warner and BBC.

I have found that in the UK Disney are absolutely crap with the ditching of the dual play DVDs in BDs and no digital copies. In the US they give dual play DVDs for "free" in the standard BD but do charge extra or only put in the 3D version the digital copies.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by malcy30

I thought Indiana Jones was still Paramount and not Disney ? even though Lucasfilms got sold to them.

Anyway with Paramount they have pretty much given up on digital copies as missed from Flight, Jack Reacher etc in the UK.

Only Paramount title in the UK I have seen this year with a digital copy (was an itunes code), was Star Trek Into Darkness.

Other studios here have all moved to Ultraviolet via Flixster or Sony website, so that applies to Sony, Universal, Warner and BBC.

I have found that in the UK Disney are absolutely crap with the ditching of the dual play DVDs in BDs and no digital copies. In the US they give dual play DVDs for "free" in the standard BD but do charge extra or only put in the 3D version the digital copies.

I think the only reason STID had a digital copy is because some of the bonus features were iTunes exclusives...

[Kingclothier]

Either way I enjoy collecting blurays but they cannot expect me to pay for a solid copy and then a digital version just for travel it's ridiculous, yet if you complain they simply say, we'll it is also available for digital purchase at a separate cost ... But it just annoys me that the likes of Disney just dropped the digital copy all together they have tried/ nor will try Disney plus in the UK which I've heard good reviews from in the US and AUS..... ARGHHHHHHH haha

[Greengoblin]

If they get rid of the Digital Copies then it should also be cheaper then, you could rip the film you want and then upload it to a dropbox, movies are less then 1gb and you can make them 720p version or just download a rip and then upload it to a dropbox or something and then keep it with you i store mine on my ipad.

[Kingclothier]

Originally Posted by Greengoblin

If they get rid of the Digital Copies then it should also be cheaper then, you could rip the film you want and then upload it to a dropbox, movies are less then 1gb and you can make them 720p version or just download a rip and then upload it to a dropbox or something and then keep it with you i store mine on my ipad.

Yeah but they haven't, or they should make the digital copy available to you at a discounted price because you've brought a actual copy if not for free, I haven't tried that but I can imagine using Dropbox to be as expensive as buying hard drives with the amount of movies I have and not to mention the time it would take me to rip a 50GB bluray to a less than 4GB copy without loosing a ridiculous amount of quality?

[mattyl149]

If you discount the extra features on a disc and all the other language tracks, then it should come to a lot less than 50GB

What I find annoying is when they release a title, then re-release it a few months later and add a UV code. This doesn't necessarily apply to new titles. I'm not going to rebuy a title just to get a UV code. There is an option in the US where if you already own the title, then you can buy a discounted UV copy if one is available. We don't have that in the UK

[Cevolution]

Digital copies are redundant for me. From memory it takes about an hour to rip a blu-ray on my computer (and to convert the file into the appropriate format), it's hardly an inconvenience, when you can simply start it, then go do something else and come back to it . However for titles that come with dvd's you could always just rip those instead, rather than the much large Blu disc files, if you are going to watch them on a laptop, tablet or phone then being blu-ray quality doesn't matter anyway, you are not benefiting from it on devices with small screens.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by Cevolution

Digital copies are redundant for me. From memory it takes about an hour to rip a blu-ray on my computer (and to convert the file into the appropriate format), it's hardly an inconvenience, when you can simply start it, then go do something else and come back to it . However for titles that come with dvd's you could always just rip those instead, rather than the much large Blu disc files, if you are going to watch them on a laptop, tablet or phone then being blu-ray quality doesn't matter anyway, you are not benefiting from it on devices with small screens.

An hour? How good is your PC? It takes me over an hour to rip the thing. Never mind convert it...

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

An hour? How good is your PC? It takes me over an hour to rip the thing. Never mind convert it...

I just realised the way I wrote it made it sound like an hour in total, I meant about an hour for each. It's only an i7 laptop, nothing particularly special. I'm not the one who usually deals with it all, I'm not too fond of computers and avoid using them where I can. My fiancée on the other hand rips and downloads quite a bit of content almost daily, I asked her about it before posting, and that's what she told me.

[Kingclothier]

Originally Posted by Cevolution

I just realised the way I wrote it made it sound like an hour in total, I meant about an hour for each. It's only an i7 laptop, nothing particularly special. I'm not the one who usually deals with it all, I'm not too fond of computers and avoid using them where I can. My fiancée on the other hand rips and downloads quite a bit of content almost daily, I asked her about it before posting, and that's what she told me.

I have a MacBook Pro 2011 and it used to take me about 2 hours to rip a film to about 4GB let alone converting to mp4 or mva, must have a better computer or a better program I used handbrake, and my settings where a decent ratio between file size and quality

[Kingclothier]

Originally Posted by Cevolution

Digital copies are redundant for me. From memory it takes about an hour to rip a blu-ray on my computer (and to convert the file into the appropriate format), it's hardly an inconvenience, when you can simply start it, then go do something else and come back to it . However for titles that come with dvd's you could always just rip those instead, rather than the much large Blu disc files, if you are going to watch them on a laptop, tablet or phone then being blu-ray quality doesn't matter anyway, you are not benefiting from it on devices with small screens.

Also my iPad is retina and to watch SD when I have the potential to watch HD would be criminal, but good suggestion on ripping from the DVD in double plays didn't think about that cheers