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marzetta7 · 05-07-2007, 06:20 PM

Microsoft to Unpimpz HD DVD?

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messa...80/352701.html

Quote:

Article by Rachel Konrad 06/04/07 The Associated Press

There is Bad news on the horizon for X-Box 360's HD-DVD Drive owners as Peter Moore told Rachel Konrad on a recent trip to Japan while entering negotiations with Pioneer. Microsoft's Xbox corporate VP of worldwide marketing and publishing Peter Moore told Japanese site ITmedia that the imminent release of the Blu-ray Xbox 360 peripheral could appear for the system before Christmas. Moore admitted that Microsoft's opinion on HD-DVD as the Next Generation format winner is bleak with the worst-case scenario being a repeat of the Beta vs.VHS war of the '80s. Moore also added Microsoft is giving the consumers the most cutting edge technology out there and In this moment in time Blu-Ray is that.

As per usual Peter Moore couldn't help but have a go at Sony and the PS3 "However, he suggested that whatever the outcome of the HD-DVD/Blu-ray war, the Xbox 360 can adopt the dominant format since its uses an external drive. He also suggested that it's a weak point for PlayStation 3, saying Sony's system is stuck with only 1 format. Microsoft announced the Blu-Ray peripheral will connect to the Xbox 360 using one of the system's USB ports. Moore once again confirmed that the Blu Ray add-on for the Xbox 360 is only for watching movies, and there are currently no plans to use it for games, nor are there plans to release an Xbox 360 with an internal Blu Ray drive.

Damn. That's cold...that's almost Blu-cold if there is truth to it.

nhaase · 05-07-2007, 06:27 PM

I'd like to get Pioneer's perspective on this, to help back up the story, if Pioneer is the maker of the drive, if this is true. This would be bigger than the false Fuh-Yuan story.

Jim L · 05-07-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by marzetta7

Microsoft to Unpimpz HD DVD?

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messa...80/352701.html

Damn. That's cold...that's almost Blu-cold if there is truth to it.

If Microsoft shafts HD-DUD, I think it will have a bigger impact than if Warner or Paramount dropped support for the following reasons:

Microsoft is bankrolling the whole farce of this format war being a battle between 2 equals (If they pulled their advertising money for HD DVD, quit subsidizing the VC-1 encodes and in general stopped promoting the viral marketing campaign)
It would demoralize the XBOX fanboys who I think are a big constituency of the HD DUD user base
Paramount may cave earlier than I thought because of loss of incentives and the bad future prospects of selling their content on the weaker format

After that, I could see Warner and/or Universal giving up on HD DUD. Soon after Toshiba would surrender. Yay!

JTK · 05-07-2007, 06:54 PM

I'd like to see more confirmation on this stuff.

RUR · 05-07-2007, 06:55 PM

What's with the article being written a month from now? We need a lot more confirmation before we start breathing hard...

JTK · 05-07-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KenB

What's with the article being written a month from now?

A time machine?

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We need a lot more confirmation before we start breathing hard...

Yes, please. This is far and away NOT the first time like this.

Spankey · 05-07-2007, 07:28 PM

HMMMM? If true, that is a huge story. It is possible that the story was leaked and was meant to be released a month from now. I don't trust the AP for much of anything, but if quoted correctly...wow!

Spankey · 05-07-2007, 07:30 PM

Found this on the author:

Quote:

Rachel Konrad is a San Jose, California-based technology correspondent for The Associated Press.

The author is the real deal. Interesting indeed.

marzetta7 · 05-07-2007, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenB

What's with the article being written a month from now? We need a lot more confirmation before we start breathing hard...

Yes, I equate this story to the mythical wet dream of cheap HD DVD players at Wal-mart, but entertaining to say the least.

Anyhow, in terms of the date, I believe in other countries, their format is day/month/year, which would make this article in April I believe.

Jack Torrance · 05-07-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by marzetta7

Yes, I equate this story to the mythical wet dream of cheap HD DVD players at Wal-mart, but entertaining to say the least.

Anyhow, in terms of the date, I believe in other countries, their format is day/month/year, which would make this article in April I believe.

Yeah, I thought I read this weeks ago. And didn't M$ hurriedly get a correction out there for this story?

MatrixS2000 · 05-07-2007, 07:54 PM

I know this story is not confirmed yet...but I love this quote:

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messa...80/352701.html

Quote:

Article by Rachel Konrad 06/04/07 The Associated Press

There is Bad news on the horizon for X-Box 360's HD-DVD Drive owners as Peter Moore told Rachel Konrad on a recent trip to Japan while entering negotiations with Pioneer. Microsoft's Xbox corporate VP of worldwide marketing and publishing Peter Moore told Japanese site ITmedia that the imminent release of the Blu-ray Xbox 360 peripheral could appear for the system before Christmas. Moore admitted that Microsoft's opinion on HD-DVD as the Next Generation format winner is bleak with the worst-case scenario being a repeat of the Beta vs.VHS war of the '80s. Moore also added Microsoft is giving the consumers the most cutting edge technology out there and In this moment in time Blu-Ray is that.

As per usual Peter Moore couldn't help but have a go at Sony and the PS3 "However, he suggested that whatever the outcome of the HD-DVD/Blu-ray war, the Xbox 360 can adopt the dominant format since its uses an external drive. He also suggested that it's a weak point for PlayStation 3, saying Sony's system is stuck with only 1 format. Microsoft announced the Blu-Ray peripheral will connect to the Xbox 360 using one of the system's USB ports. Moore once again confirmed that the Blu Ray add-on for the Xbox 360 is only for watching movies, and there are currently no plans to use it for games, nor are there plans to release an Xbox 360 with an internal Blu Ray drive.

uuuummmm hello, the PS3 could also make use of one of it's USB ports for an external HD DVD drive. DUH! Not that we will have to worry about this....

RUR · 05-07-2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Torrance

Yeah, I thought I read this weeks ago. And didn't M$ hurriedly get a correction out there for this story?

Yeppers. Here 'tis:

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?op...=2053&Itemid=2

add911 · 05-07-2007, 09:52 PM

well, ig this isn't true than HD DVD will fade away. blu ray has more support,better quality and i have heard alot of things on the web about how rubbish HD DVD is and big companies dropping out.

dialog_gvf · 05-08-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KenB

Yeppers. Here 'tis:

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?op...=2053&Itemid=2

That's from 16 January 2006, which was a previous rejection of this notion.

Is there a new rejection of the latest story?

Is the story real? We see the post in a message on a site, but is it real? Can anyone find the article separately?

Gary

GCW2216 · 05-08-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Torrance

Yeah, I thought I read this weeks ago. And didn't M$ hurriedly get a correction out there for this story?

Love your signature!
GO HOWARD!

nhaase · 05-07-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KenB

What's with the article being written a month from now? We need a lot more confirmation before we start breathing hard...

If you're talking about the one dated 06/04/2007, that's the day/month/year.

blublublu · 05-08-2007, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marzetta7

Microsoft to Unpimpz HD DVD?

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messa...80/352701.html

Damn. That's cold...that's almost Blu-cold if there is truth to it.

You're putting a lot of faith in an article with no link, posted by 1st timer, who "just got an e-mail from my cousin".

This looks totally bogus.

You really expect someone from Mircosoft to voice the following opinion "Moore admitted that Microsoft's opinion on HD-DVD as the Next Generation format winner is bleak".

marzetta7 · 05-08-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blublublu

You're putting a lot of faith in an article with no link, posted by 1st timer, who "just got an e-mail from my cousin".

This looks totally bogus.

You really expect someone from Mircosoft to voice the following opinion "Moore admitted that Microsoft's opinion on HD-DVD as the Next Generation format winner is bleak".

Ahh, no I'm not (putting a lot of faith in the article). Please read my other posts, I question the validity of the link multiple times,...I just find it mildly entertaining.

Nismobeach · 05-08-2007, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marzetta7

Microsoft to Unpimpz HD DVD?

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messa...80/352701.html

Damn. That's cold...that's almost Blu-cold if there is truth to it.

So all of that time M$ spent knocking BD they're finally going to implement it for the 360 (and only use it for movies). You have to be a serious richard to still dig on Sony for including a built in BD drive from the get go M$.

Snake-V2 · 05-08-2007, 07:43 AM

Would M$ actually be allowed to develop a Blu-Ray player for the 360?

I'm no expert but surely the technology used in developing Blu-Ray discs and players is patented. Wouldn't M$ need permission from whoever owns the patent in order to develop an add-on player??

I 'm just curious because if this is the case (and I'm not sure that it is) then theoretically Sony (or whoever does own the patent) could deny permission to M$ - I know I would!

Just a thought - like I said - not sure on the legal issues, just seems like it might be a viable situation.

Cheers!

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05-07-2007, 06:27 PM	#2
nhaase Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Trading Score:2	I'd like to get Pioneer's perspective on this, to help back up the story, if Pioneer is the maker of the drive, if this is true. This would be bigger than the false Fuh-Yuan story.

05-07-2007, 06:54 PM	#4
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	I'd like to see more confirmation on this stuff.

05-07-2007, 06:55 PM	#5
RUR Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Abiit, excessit, evasit, erupit Blu-ray collection:143 Trading Score:1	What's with the article being written a month from now? We need a lot more confirmation before we start breathing hard...

05-07-2007, 07:28 PM	#7
Spankey Power Member Member since:Oct 2006	HMMMM? If true, that is a huge story. It is possible that the story was leaked and was meant to be released a month from now. I don't trust the AP for much of anything, but if quoted correctly...wow!

05-07-2007, 09:52 PM	#13
add911 Member Member since:Apr 2007	well, ig this isn't true than HD DVD will fade away. blu ray has more support,better quality and i have heard alot of things on the web about how rubbish HD DVD is and big companies dropping out.

05-08-2007, 07:43 AM	#20
Snake-V2 Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Sheffield, UK Blu-ray collection:146	Would M$ actually be allowed to develop a Blu-Ray player for the 360? I'm no expert but surely the technology used in developing Blu-Ray discs and players is patented. Wouldn't M$ need permission from whoever owns the patent in order to develop an add-on player?? I 'm just curious because if this is the case (and I'm not sure that it is) then theoretically Sony (or whoever does own the patent) could deny permission to M$ - I know I would! Just a thought - like I said - not sure on the legal issues, just seems like it might be a viable situation. Cheers!

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