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Old 02-03-2014, 07:56 PM   #161
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It's possible that they are delaying the 3D release to keep 3D theatrical grosses going longer in the U.S., since the theatrical run is staying strong for a longer time than anyone would have ever predicted. Perhaps it's too much to reschedule the entire home video release and the planned marketing effort, but they can at least delay this variation to give some motivation for people to keep going to the theaters. This movie sold more tickets than anything they've done since the Toy Stories, Monsters, Nemo, Lion King, Aladdin and BATB. So if this doesn't get a 3D BD release then they'll have no reason to ever release another animated film on 3D BD.

3D seems to be getting mixed reception at the box office still, but family films seem to be faring the worst. Frozen only got 28% of its gross from 3D, about the same as Monsters 2 and Ralph. Thor 2 got 39% of its gross from 3D, while Thor 1 got 60%. Hobbit 2 got 49% from 3D, same as the first one. But somehow, Gravity got 80% from 3D though, higher than any other movie ever, even Avatar. So it seems like the more a movie is perceived as a high-tech special effects picture, the more people see it in 3D. But animated films have the least demand for a 3D viewing out of all types.
$$$.
I'm not saying that you're not allowed to watch Gravity with your kids, or that you can't watch Frozen on your own... but if you're going to see an animated family film, you probably have 1, 2, 3 or more li'l ones (ticket holder$) in tow. Surcharge adds up.

Plus, all the word of mouth for Gravity pretty much said "This is a must-see in 3D".
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:43 PM   #162
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Import or nothing for me. I will never pay for a streamed/digital only 3D movie.
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Old 02-04-2014, 12:36 AM   #163
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I was reading on another web-site that this will be available digitally a a Digital 3D release. Does that mean there will be a redemption code included for the 3D version with the Blu-ray or is it obtained some other way, such as through Vudu? I'd be ok with them having us pay a little bit more to get access to the Digital 3D version through Disney, but I don't think paying over $30.00 for it through Vudu is going to fly. I would ultimately rather have it available both digitally and physically rather than one or the other, but I'll take it.
Disney can charge you a premium price...for a digital copy...and you dont own it physically.

This is why Disney really want to push digital. They save $$ and still charge premium prices...with no physical ownership to you. Win/win for Disney.
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Old 02-04-2014, 12:38 AM   #164
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Import or nothing for me. I will never pay for a streamed/digital only 3D movie.
Same sentiments exactly.
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Old 02-04-2014, 12:50 AM   #165
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Same sentiments exactly.
Especially when it is $35!!!!
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Old 02-04-2014, 12:58 AM   #166
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Same sentiments exactly.
Hear hear!
Up yours Disney
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Old 02-04-2014, 03:05 AM   #167
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I pre-ordered from Amazon UK for around $28 USD shipped. The movie looks great, and I can't find time to see it in theaters. I'm not a fan of Disney's sales strategy, exclusives, or paying inflated prices, but given the amount of critical success and awards Frozen is/will be winning, it is worth an exception. Also looking forward to Get a Horse!, another award winner. It's too bad the release date is after the Academy Awards.

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Old 02-04-2014, 03:49 AM   #168
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I pre-ordered from Amazon UK for around $28 USD shipped. The movie looks great, and I can't find time to see it in theaters. I'm not a fan of Disney's sales strategy, exclusives, or paying inflated prices, but given the amount of critical success and awards Frozen is/will be winning, it is worth an exception. Also looking forward to Get a Horse!, another award winner. It's too bad the release date is after the Academy Awards.
I did the same thing. Pre-ordered Frozen 3D from Amazon UK for 18 pounds which came out to just over $29.00 shipped. Interestingly, subtotal showed 15 pounds for the movie and 3 pounds for shipping for a total of 18 pounds altogether. It said the global shipping program delivers in 6-10 days.

Seriously folks, a domestic bluray 3D release would have still been at least $27.99 to $29.99 on release day, so if this really is region free, then there shouldn't be any reason not to get the UK version.
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Old 02-04-2014, 03:59 AM   #169
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Seems like we had been getting most Disneys for $20, or occasionally less, after coupon(s) on release day. That's sort of my expectation for how pricing should work. Give the release-week buyers a decent deal, and then jack up the price for a while before letting it fall back to down to "reasonable."

I remember scoring the Finding Nemo metalpak from Best Buy for $15 after coupon and price match, $7 of which was prepaid weeks in advance. I almost felt guilty walking out of the store...

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Old 02-04-2014, 04:15 AM   #170
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Seems like we had been getting most Disneys for $20, or occasionally less, after coupon(s) on release day. That's sort of my expectation for how pricing should work. Give the release-week buyers a decent deal, and then jack up the price for a while before letting it fall back to down to "reasonable."

I remember scoring the Finding Nemo metalpak from Best Buy for $15 after coupon and price match, $7 of which was prepaid weeks in advance. I almost felt guilty walking out of the store...
The last new release Disney 3D I bought was Planes 3D and I did use the $7.00 coupon like you mentioned at Target so price was $20.99 before taxes. But my three most recent purchases (Cloudy 2, Metallica, and Man in the Dark) were 27.99, 27.99 and 29.99 (+$5.00 shipping) respectively, so anything under $30.00 for 3D I'm OK with, but obviously I always try to get the best price when applicable.
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:13 AM   #171
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Dvdreleasedates.com has 2 release dates for Frozen. They have it releasing Tuesday March 18th then Wednesday March 19th. Not exactly sure why.
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:31 AM   #172
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But somehow, Gravity got 80% from 3D though, higher than any other movie ever, even Avatar. So it seems like the more a movie is perceived as a high-tech special effects picture, the more people see it in 3D. But animated films have the least demand for a 3D viewing out of all types.
Or probably because, at my cinema, 9 out of the 10 screenings per day were 3D.
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Old 02-05-2014, 05:21 AM   #173
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Default 3D Frozen UPC

I found two sites offering the 3D Frozen 3-disc set for pre-order with a different UPC than the 2-disc (3D/BD or BD/DVD) sets.

I suspect they just haven't cancelled the UPC like Amazon did...

(P.S. I tried to post this a week or two ago, but it never appeared....)
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:21 PM   #174
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I found two sites offering the 3D Frozen 3-disc set for pre-order with a different UPC than the 2-disc (3D/BD or BD/DVD) sets.

I suspect they just haven't cancelled the UPC like Amazon did...

(P.S. I tried to post this a week or two ago, but it never appeared....)
Are the two websites a secret?
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:09 PM   #175
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It's possible that they are delaying the 3D release to keep 3D theatrical grosses going longer in the U.S., since the theatrical run is staying strong for a longer time than anyone would have ever predicted. Perhaps it's too much to reschedule the entire home video release and the planned marketing effort, but they can at least delay this variation to give some motivation for people to keep going to the theaters. This movie sold more tickets than anything they've done since the Toy Stories, Monsters, Nemo, Lion King, Aladdin and BATB. So if this doesn't get a 3D BD release then they'll have no reason to ever release another animated film on 3D BD.

3D seems to be getting mixed reception at the box office still, but family films seem to be faring the worst. Frozen only got 28% of its gross from 3D, about the same as Monsters 2 and Ralph. Thor 2 got 39% of its gross from 3D, while Thor 1 got 60%. Hobbit 2 got 49% from 3D, same as the first one. But somehow, Gravity got 80% from 3D though, higher than any other movie ever, even Avatar. So it seems like the more a movie is perceived as a high-tech special effects picture, the more people see it in 3D. But animated films have the least demand for a 3D viewing out of all types.
Interesting points you made. Thanks.
I can't imagine why Disney would give up on 3D when they were the leaders (next to Imax 3D) in 3D support starting back in 2011 onward for blu ray 3D. Other than financial concerns with all that's going on at Disney and tightening their belts as a result for the moment till the next big hit Star Wars VII 3D. Frozen is a big hit, so who knows for certain.
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I saw lats night that Vudu has "Frozen" up for pre-order on their service, but not in 3D from what I can see...
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Old 02-05-2014, 10:11 PM   #177
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The next question is, would Disney have plans they're not yet revealing for a 3D version? Is that even possible? I doubt it, as their goal is to gain pre sales and build up anticipation, so not offering a pre order is as many have suggested, not a good sign for the 3D version of this movie anyway. Thankfully the rest of the 3D industry continues in theaters and home video 3D.
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Old 02-05-2014, 10:16 PM   #178
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I saw lats night that Vudu has "Frozen" up for pre-order on their service, but not in 3D from what I can see...
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Old 02-06-2014, 12:42 AM   #179
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I actually just spoke with someone at Disney who told me there would be a 3D blu still coming out but he didn't know when. He said that even thought its been cancelled they will in fact be releasing it but they don't have the details on when yet. He mentioned that they should be getting more info after the initial blu-ray release.

I have no idea how reliable this is, so take it with a grain of salt. He could have been miss informed or it could be real. Won't know until after the release apparently. Either way, id say its a possibility that there were some upset loyal Disney customers and that might be effecting the decision. Or its another plan to inflate sales. Maybe if more people refuse the 2D blu and or voice their opinion it'll help.
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I can understand Disney wanting to experiment by offering the 3D as a digital release only, but for $35.00? That is insane and doomed to fail. Perhaps if they were selling it for $15.00, people might buy into a digital only 3D release, but at $35.00, that's $7.00 more expensive than what it costs to preorder the UK region free 3D/2D bluray combo pack and that's including shipping to the US.
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