Off-topic BOSE discussion

[Woody]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Satire requires a basis I'm afraid, so that's a dead end where you're concerned. I don't think you understand satire if you feel that there was any to be found in your original dramatic post that was directed at me and satire on satire is never amusing it only shows a lack of originality and/or thought.

You are the one that mentioned what a system should go down to in order to be considered excellent; I merely responded what mine goes down to as you inferred that I was suggesting that 35Hz is “excellent”, which is unfounded. So you obviously care otherwise you wouldn’t have mentioned it to begin with.

I pointed out several misleading statements on BOSE’s website. There is a bloody good reason why BOSE don’t post measurements of their products and why they sue anyone that does for using unproven measuring techniques (despite every other speaker manufacturer on the planet agreeing with them) and that’s because they DON’T PLAY LOW’s, they DON’T PLAY CLEAR and they DON’T PLAY HIGH!

One wonders with YOUR insistence that BOSE somehow has products that aren’t a total ripoff, when everyone in the industry that doesn’t work for BOSE knows they don’t, which company YOU work for. Solid products? Untreated 2” manilla hemp cones? Frequency response that misses almost 50% of what the average person can hear? Good engineering your say? Solid products? Please, pull the other leg, it’s got bells on! You must take people here as common fools.

We have a very low failure rate with Bose products, and a very few unhappy customers. How about this, we have a higher failure rate with Runco than we do Bose.

I will ask again, not sure why but here goes:

Show me a 5.1 system (with in-wall AND on-wall options, in addition it in-floor sub options), with a receiver, AM/FM tuner, DVD player, a self-calibration system (similar to audyessy), a hard drive, an RF remote, and the ability to control 15 different zones of music (2 different sources). And show me all of that with the aesthetics of the Bose system, and that costs no more than $2000.

Obviously that isnt important to you. But believe it or not, you arent the only consumer on earth. And the people who do need this type of system are not "common fools"

Flexing your system "muscle", or justifying the flexing. Not sure which is funnier.

"deep" is still subjective.

You can have the last word, I am done.

The best part about roughly 75% of this thread is that none of you have heard, worked with, or used Bose products. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

[btf1980]

Originally Posted by Woody

The best part about roughly 75% of this thread is that none of you have heard, worked with, or used Bose products. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

Talk about irony. You need to take your comedy routine on the road!

[Beta Man]

I was saying that this thread, would lead people, who would otherwise simply "blind buy" a bose system, to do some comparative listening.......

[dobyblue]

Well, this one might not, but the other one should

[cpgator]

Originally Posted by Woody

Show me a 5.1 system (with in-wall AND on-wall options, in addition it in-floor sub options), with a receiver, AM/FM tuner, DVD player, a self-calibration system (similar to audyessy), a hard drive, an RF remote, and the ability to control 15 different zones of music (2 different sources). And show me all of that with the aesthetics of the Bose system, and that costs no more than $2000.

Obviously that isnt important to you. But believe it or not, you arent the only consumer on earth. And the people who do need this type of system are not "common fools"

Not sure if this has been answered yet, but you can easily put together a system that will meet most those needs (except maybe the HD and diff zones) for $2000.

Now while this other system might not be able to control 15 zones, it will produce better sound, have a more complete frequency range, support HDMI and the latest audio codecs, better upscaling, more power, etc.

Now if controlling 15 separate zones is more important to you then the other things I mentioned, then Bose would be your best choice.

Meant to add - Monster cables are extremely overpriced and should always be avoided, and I have no idea why there is so much love on this site (and only this site) for Klipsch. I would guess because this site is more geared to those just getting into AV (younger crowd) as compared to more dedicate AV sites.

[WickyWoo]

I believe the bottom line in this is simple

Woody believes that Bose has a place in home theater because he either makes a gigantic margin on them, or gets a gigantic commission check from them from someone else who markes the big margin. I know when my brother worked for Sears, the bounty was about $4-500 on a $2000 Bose system compared to maybe $60-70 on a $1500 computer.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

I believe the bottom line in this is simple

Woody believes that Bose has a place in home theater because he either makes a gigantic margin on them, or gets a gigantic commission check from them from someone else who markes the big margin. I know when my brother worked for Sears, the bounty was about $4-500 on a $2000 Bose system compared to maybe $60-70 on a $1500 computer.

I believe you shouldnt speak of something you know nothing about.

I make the same on all products I sell.

Any questions?

[Woody]

Originally Posted by cpgator

Not sure if this has been answered yet, but you can easily put together a system that will meet most those needs (except maybe the HD and diff zones) for $2000.

Now while this other system might not be able to control 15 zones, it will produce better sound, have a more complete frequency range, support HDMI and the latest audio codecs, better upscaling, more power, etc.

Now if controlling 15 separate zones is more important to you then the other things I mentioned, then Bose would be your best choice.

Meant to add - Monster cables are extremely overpriced and should always be avoided, and I have no idea why there is so much love on this site (and only this site) for Klipsch. I would guess because this site is more geared to those just getting into AV (younger crowd) as compared to more dedicate AV sites.

Exactly my point. The uses are there for the product, they arent numerous, but they are there.