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Old 02-13-2014, 09:48 PM   #22501
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Make no mistake, I like 80's Horror whether they'd be the classics or trashy fun. But what I don't do is glorify them as this golden age of Horror. Golden Age of Slashers, okay; I get that but Horror itself? You guys do know the original Nosferatu, Dr. Caligari and the Universal Horror films exist right?
House of Frankenstein is in my top 20 favorite films. So are Gremlins, Army of Darkness, and ROTLD.
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Old 02-13-2014, 09:49 PM   #22502
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Just out of curiosity since we're on the topic, I'm going to break down my favorites by year:

1. The Thing (1982)
2. Evil Dead 2 (1987)
3. Jaws (1975)
4. Alien (1979)
5. Let The Right One In (2008)
6. Re-Animator (1985)
7. The Fly (1986)
8. The Wicker Man (1973)
9. Deep Red (1975)
10. The Exorcist (1973)
11. The Brood (1979)
12. Don't Look Now (1973)
13. Halloween (1978)
14. Hellraiser (1987)
15. In the Mouth of Madness (1994)

Looks like I'm another who's drawn to a specific era

(and yes I realize I don't have Psycho, Suspiria, Friday the 13th or whatever anyone else's favorite is on my list)

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Old 02-13-2014, 09:51 PM   #22503
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Well the 70's is considered to be a great era of film among film aficionados.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:00 PM   #22504
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Why are you guys arguing about Phantasm vs. Ginger Snaps when we could be discussing the greatness of that scene in Blood Diner where that chick's head turns into a giant hush puppy?
"so tell me before I stick my big sausage into you...what do they call you?"

"They call me Sheeeeeetar!!!!!!"

Blood Diner rules.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:03 PM   #22505
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I'm blessed by the fact that I'm completely oblivious to "messages" in movies.

I've never seen a movie with a message. I love GINGER SNAPS as an original take on a werewolf story. If there was a message, allegory or subtext, it was gloriously lost on me.

That's why I find it so easy to like movies.

Like that old Hollywood saying, "If you want to send a message, use Western Union".
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Old 02-13-2014, 11:10 PM   #22506
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I'm blessed by the fact that I'm completely oblivious to "messages" in movies.

I've never seen a movie with a message.


Er, welllll, I can see how GS would be a new experience for you, then....
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Old 02-13-2014, 11:15 PM   #22507
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I didn't get the allegory when I was 13 when I saw the movie.
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Old 02-13-2014, 11:18 PM   #22508
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Wow. Ok. I'm not going to piss on Phatasm for the sake of making looking Ginger Snaps look great, as I don't have to. But I imagine most of us on here know what's the more important film.

Also, the fact that you complain that Ginger wasn't a 'menacing villain' really suggests that you didn't understand the filmmakers/writers intent..
Ginger snaps is the "more important film"? Both of them are equally unimportant. I personally find phantasm much more entertaining. Which is without a doubt the most important thing to me.

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Old 02-13-2014, 11:31 PM   #22509
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Ginger Snaps and Phantasm are both good, but they're so drastically different films that comparing them is literally like comparing apples and oranges. And it does neither film justice.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:48 AM   #22510
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I think "Phantasm" is a rather important film in regards to the sci-fi/horror genre. It was love at first sight the very first time I saw it. Very great cult film in my opinion, very original, very cool characters. I think it's absolutely worthy of any horror/sci-fi fan's collection.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:49 AM   #22511
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Ginger Snaps and Phantasm are both good, but they're so drastically different films that comparing them is literally like comparing apples and oranges. And it does neither film justice.
IOW, it's sort of like comparing "The Craft" to "Army of Darkness"...Why would you?
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:31 AM   #22512
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I liked Ginger Snaps because it was unique. I didnt even know it was a Werewolf movie. But there were too many squeamish scenes for me...so Im passing on it
I can watch heads get ripped off, zombies opening up a human body, slasher movies, Cannibal movies, gory giallo films, but I just am not into people peeing blood, graphic vomiting (or anything pukey) and piercings being pulled out. It's a little to realistic I guess for a *reel* movie. You dont see zombies exposing peoples intestines every day - that's what I mean about real and *reel*
I do like Phantasm a lot better ..better than a lot of stuff that I have. I dont think it's in my top 10 but its close or near it.
My favorites are Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead, Psycho, The Birds, Halloween, Deep Red, Tenebrae, The Exorcist, The Fly, Mimic , The Thing, Curse of the Werewolf, and then we get to the early Argento, Universal and Hammer horror movies
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:48 AM   #22513
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I liked Ginger Snaps because it was unique. I didnt even know it was a Werewolf movie. But there were too many squeamish scenes for me...so Im passing on it
I can watch heads get ripped off, zombies opening up a human body, slasher movies, Cannibal movies, gory giallo films, but I just am not into people peeing blood, graphic vomiting (or anything pukey) and piercings being pulled out. It's a little to realistic I guess for a *reel* movie. You dont see zombies exposing peoples intestines every day - that's what I mean about real and *reel*
I do like Phantasm a lot better ..better than a lot of stuff that I have. I dont think it's in my top 10 but its close or near it.
My favorites are Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead, Psycho, The Birds, Halloween, Deep Red, Tenebrae, The Exorcist, The Fly, Mimic , The Thing, Curse of the Werewolf, and then we get to the early Argento, Universal and Hammer horror movies
I like how you get to the Argento after Deep Red and Tenebre.
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:52 AM   #22514
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I like how you get to the Argento after Deep Red and Tenebre.
Early Argento probably means The Bird with the Crystal Plumage, The Cat o' Nine Tails and Four Flies on Grey Velvet.
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:58 AM   #22515
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I like how you get to the Argento after Deep Red and Tenebre.
Thats right..early Argento films Four Flies, Bird, Cat...
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:59 AM   #22516
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Thats right..early Argento films Four Flies, Bird, Cat...
I wouldn't be able to tell new from old. I have not yet seen any of his works. Suspiria and Phenomena are on my to watch list, though.
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:19 AM   #22517
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"so tell me before I stick my big sausage into you...what do they call you?"

"They call me Sheeeeeetar!!!!!!"

Blood Diner rules.
Aw hell, you can call me Vitamin!
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:21 AM   #22518
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Thats right..early Argento films Four Flies, Bird, Cat...
Hey, early Argento is better than late Argento.

woof
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:38 AM   #22519
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Hey, early Argento is better than late Argento.

woof
Thats right. I think Demonknight should do Inferno, Deep Red and Tenebre first..then the earlier ones they arent as gory ..but they are still great films
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:49 AM   #22520
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Thats right. I think Demonknight should do Inferno, Deep Red and Tenebre first..then the earlier ones they arent as gory ..but they are still great films
Suspiria, Deep Red shorter cut, Tenebre, and Opera or BWTCP is the preferable order I think for getting into Argento.

After that watch the early films, Phenomena, Inferno, and if you really like his stuff, start going into his later films.

As much as I love Phenomena I wouldn't reccomend it as a starting because its rather different for an Argento film and bat shit crazy.
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