Off-topic BOSE discussion

[Woody]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyOJack

Wow, the only thing worse than a know-it-all is a self-proclaimed "audiophile" who thinks that Bose has a legitimate place in the home theatre industry....

If Bose were only marketed solely as a simple to use, all in one system then I MIGHT give them some credit. Instead, they try to make people think that they sell quality sound systems that are the pinnacle of home audio.

Never said I was an "audiophile".

Bose ABSOLUTELY has a place in the home theater industry. Because it is not with you doesnt mean it doesnt belong. FYI, if it had NO place it wouldnt be here.

What would you suggest? Would you prefer Bose says "We are average AND expensive!"? It's called marketing.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Now you're just talking out your ass, so please, be done with it and move on.
One thing is for sure, I've never heard frequencies between 200Hz and 280Hz or above 13kHz from the BOSE systems I have heard, worked with and used.

You sell BOSE products, so whatever helps you sleep at night.

I sell many more products than Bose.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Hear, hear! True dat.

Anyone that can look at Sound and Vision's frequency response of the Acoustimass module and still think it's in any way, shape or form worthy of its price tag or reputation is pushing something.

No response from 200Hz to 280Hz to speak of.

Zoinks.

I said Acoustimass was worth its price tag where?

Please just stop.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Now you're just talking out your ass, so please, be done with it and move on.
One thing is for sure, I've never heard frequencies between 200Hz and 280Hz or above 13kHz from the BOSE systems I have heard, worked with and used at a volume in any way consistent with the far reaches of reasonable.

You sell BOSE products, so whatever helps you sleep at night.

Take a test tone disc to work sometime and get back to us.

Oooooh!! 15 zones!! You don't say! Anyone that needs 15 zones already has separate systems in each room like Bill Legall.

Seperate systems in 15 rooms is not realistic for the average distributed audio customer.

[Beta Man]

They provide sound, that fills the room, has a lot of detail (as far as rain-drops, bullets, etc) and their decoding is actually pretty good as far as delivering sound to the rears etc.... so they are suitable for a lot of people... my gripe, is they're not musical.... that being said, I stay away from them. I also understand that other options are available at that price point, and when I got my bedroom system, I spent the same $2k, but got something else..... to each their own.... no reason to attack them though.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by Slec

Best not to make broad generalizations such as this. There are a good number of people on here who have heard, moved away from Bose to current setups, or own a Bose system. Most stay silent to avoid being jumped on and called names. The guys chiming in here are some of the better ones about it. Check out some of the other threads and there is a great deal more of the awful behavior you've mentioned.

Believe or not, with the exception of the biting at eachother, you and doby have had a good discussion about Bose's place in the market.

75% is maybe too broad a generalization. You are right. Mostly what irks me about much of this are posts like:

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lol at Bose

I cant believe people buy that crap

That typically comes from people with no real-world experience of the product or its applications.

Bose has its place. People know the name, like the look, like the convenience and enjoy the remote (believe it or not).

And because I believe Bose has a useful place, it is automatically assumed that I don't think it is overpriced (do), I think it sounds awesome (don't), I think it is the pinnacle of HT (don't), and that I PUSH Bose as a product (don't).

[Woody]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

They provide sound, that fills the room, has a lot of detail (as far as rain-drops, bullets, etc) and their decoding is actually pretty good as far as delivering sound to the rears etc.... so they are suitable for a lot of people... my gripe, is they're not musical.... that being said, I stay away from them. I also understand that other options are available at that price point, and when I got my bedroom system, I spent the same $2k, but got something else..... to each their own.... no reason to attack them though.

Agreed, 90% of Bose demo is explosions and such. It is MUCH easier to make movies sound good than music, as you know.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Woody

Seperate systems in 15 rooms is not realistic for the average distributed audio customer.

Umm, it's not realistic for the average HOUSE.

Originally Posted by Woody

Bose ABSOLUTELY has a place in the home theater industry. Because it is not with you doesnt mean it doesnt belong. FYI, if it had NO place it wouldnt be here.

See Tom Cruise's religion.

Originally Posted by Woody

I said Acoustimass was worth its price tag where?
Please just stop.

Again with the semantics game, nice one. Your assesment of BOSE's products, their build, their engineering; it's completely laughable. The BOSE guy must have taken you out for a great steak dinner huh?

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

They provide sound

You had me there, but lost me from that point on.

[MacDaddyOJack]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

See Tom Cruise's religion.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Umm, it's not realistic for the average HOUSE.



See Tom Cruise's religion.


Again with the semantics game, nice one. Your assesment of BOSE's products, their build, their engineering; it's completely laughable. The BOSE guy must have taken you out for a great steak dinner huh?

I don't sell distributed audio for the average house typically.

I love how semantics= you putting words in my mouth.

FYI, I get paid the same for 15k of Bose product as I do for 15k of any other product.

I would love for you to use their distributed audio product though. Obviously you havent, but many of you would be surprised at its intuitiveness. Engineering doesnt solely happen in the speakers themselves.

Do people "buy" religion? Sorry I fail to see the relationship between a hugely successful consumer product and a belief system to base your life around.

I suppose that isnt a stretch for you though, kind of like: "Your assesment of BOSE's products, their build, their engineering; it's completely laughable."

So you suggest I should take YOUR assessment? I'll pass.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Woody

Do people "buy" religion? Sorry I fail to see the relationship between a hugely successful consumer product and a belief system to base your life around.

In that particular case, absolutely they do yes. You can't get anywhere without paying. Google "Jason Beghe"

Hence the very valid parallel I drew between it and BOSE, but that's as far as we can discuss that particular topic because it's against the sites rules to have any more than a passing mention of religious topics.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Woody

So you suggest I should take YOUR assessment? I'll pass.

Not my assesment, but rather the assesment of people who test equipment for a living and others who have been sued for showing their results.

If you pass on that, you're blinded by the light.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

In that particular case, absolutely they do yes. You can't get anywhere without paying. Google "Jason Beghe"

Hence the very valid parallel I drew between it and BOSE, but that's as far as we can discuss that particular topic because it's against the sites rules to have any more than a passing mention of religious topics.

What a shame.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Woody

What a shame.

I agree, because I don't feel that particular one falls under the heading of "religion" - but there are plenty of other places for that discussion like www.enturbulation.org for example.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

I agree, because I don't feel that particular one falls under the heading of "religion" - but there are plenty of other places for that discussion like www.enturbulation.org for example.

I was being sarcastic, I care not for discussions of religious beliefs on the internet.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by jswilli1

I have been reluctant on reading this thread, but due to its size thought maybe it was worth reading. I bought my Bose AM5/AM7 speakers back in 1995 when I reinlisted in the Navy. At the time I paid $999 for the set which included 5 cubes and two modules (later added the VCS-10 center). I still use them to this day and have them mounted from the ceiling. I still enjoy their sound and after 13 years have no issues with them. I am on my third reciever (just purchased Onkyo TX-SR805..thanks to this Forum). At the time of purchase their size was great for my small apartment in Hawaii. With four rugrats in the house having them up high is a definite plus for me. Someday I will replace/upgrade the Bose speakers (maybe when I sell the house) but until then I will just enjoy what I have in place. This Forum (overall) is a great way of educating "us" the consumers on various products. Not everyone is a "tweaker" or an avid audiophile which makes Bose products attractive by just "turning it on and enjoying".

Yep, can't argue when a product lasts 13 years, and you enjoy using it.

[Slec]

Originally Posted by Woody

Yep, can't argue when a product lasts 13 years, and you enjoy using it.

ok guys...

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Woody

I was being sarcastic, I care not for discussions of religious beliefs on the internet.

I care not in this thread either, but the parallel is still valid and another example of what you said doesn't happen.

Originally Posted by Woody

Bose ABSOLUTELY has a place in the home theater industry. Because it is not with you doesnt mean it doesnt belong. FYI, if it had NO place it wouldnt be here.

BOSE has no place in the home theater industry in its current incarnation. If they put their pricing alongside Coby, that's where BOSE belongs.

[Woody]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

I care not in this thread either, but the parallel is still valid and another example of what you said doesn't happen.

The parallel is ridiculous. I agree with Slec. I am done.