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Old 05-15-2008, 05:51 PM   #101
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[QUOTE=Blu-Ray Buckeye;882185]One of the things that the detractors totally miss is that in 2001 HAL actually developed as a very interesting character. The movie not only established the concept of AI in the public mind, it demonstrated the potential for uniqueness and personality. Hal was also meant to be one letter off of IBM
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Hal was also meant to be one letter off of IBM
Yes, brilliant. However folks these days can't be troubled with such sublety.
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This kind of posts makes me lose my faith in Humankind
Mine was lost a long time ago.
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no it was to show how life was like a long time ago before humans and then it goes on to the future with humans, technology, space travel, etc.
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Since the movie was deliberately made alagorical, symbols and certian special effects were used in a way to leave their meaning up to the viewer. Perhaps Kubrick's greatest special effect of all was a blank screen. What other way can we best describe the murky past to the very start of humanity, the apes view of the monolith, and their almost non existent thought process.

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Yeah, it was to waste time.
Same with Lawrence of Arabia and Seven Samurai, and some more crappy old movies.




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One of the things that the detractors totally miss is that in 2001 HAL actually developed as a very interesting character. The movie not only established the concept of AI in the public mind, it demonstrated the potential for uniqueness and personality. Lesser movies like "I Robot" and a million others merely borrow the notion that AI is possible but completely fail to address the character aspect.

There is no reason why an AI character cannot be interesting. Yet in nearly all sci-fi movies, they never are.
in fairness i, robot is based on the book i, robot which I'm pretty certain was written before 2001. and it also doesn't fail to recognize that AI can have character.
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in fairness i, robot is based on the book i, robot which I'm pretty certain was written before 2001. and it also doesn't fail to recognize that AI can have character.
Agreed. And i robot was written in the late 1950s or early 60s. HAL's AI/ HAL was the main character in the trip to Jupiter. He was the center point and focal between Bowman and Poole.
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