Blu-ray vs. Laserdisc DTS (Yes... Laserdisc) - Page 7 - Blu-ray Forum

invenio · 04-06-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Something not mentioned is that some movies I don't want to see in HD. I've been watching Space 1999 on DVD and there's some scenes I wouldn't want to see on Blu-ray - I can already see the wires attached to the actors when they're supposed to be weightless on the DVD lol.

I imagine something like the original Star Trek TV series would also be cringeworthy on Blu due to the higher resolution.

Some of those older movies would lose some of the fantasy aspect if all the warts normally hidden at a lower resolution were revealed IMO.

I think this really depends on the transfer. To give some examples, Blade Runner looked pretty terrible on the DVD release, and of course VHS was very bad. However, they spent a few million dollars restoring it for the blu-ray eddition and it's one of the highest rated disks out there. Blade Runner Review. As for ST:TOS, I haven't seen it personnaly, but I think they went back and also did a very good restoration and even redid the the special effects shot with CGI to make it more "modern" but still fit the period in terms of special effects.

Of course, on the flip side are the dozens of titles that they take some poor source, then slap on a thick smear of DNR and release them without an afterthought. These unfortunately make me cringe!

victortubeman · 04-07-2012, 06:40 AM

Hi,
DTS on laserdisc can sound very good compared to DVD DTS , but Bluray DTS MA and Dolby True HD are far better sounding than DTS on laserdisc and can even best ,hi end 2 chan systems(cd) with the Multi Chan system 2 to 3 times plus the cost.

I have 3 systems,1 large HT system,1 small HT system($35k au) and another Hi end 2 chan system.Movie Bluray audio always suprises me with how great it sounds on the main (large) HT,concert Blurays are a different story.
Regards Victor.

Jim Hawkins · 07-29-2013, 11:13 PM

I missed the action! I was enjoying reading the drama and only got a few posts in. Hope everyone came out all right.

Dwigt · 07-30-2013, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Hawkins

I missed the action! I was enjoying reading the drama and only got a few posts in. Hope everyone came out all right.

As long as you have 1000 fps vision (which just requires a little training), you didn't miss a beat of the whole thing.

Tech-UK · 07-30-2013, 04:58 PM

What happened? I have been away, did the guy get banned?

Jim Hawkins · 07-30-2013, 06:35 PM

I was in the middle of reading it and went to the next page and it was gone.

To be honest I am not sure why this thread even exists. If people like certain aspects of the laserdisc, fine. But how on Gods green earth could you watch a LD over the BD version?

I get that you like LD but over BD? That sounds like someone is taking crazy pills.

You like analog? Get a record player. There is a huge niche market of players and shops around this. They still make records.

But I digress, if you like LD that is totally cool. Enjoy it. Just not sure how a sane person says that the LD is better than BD.

Tech-UK · 07-30-2013, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Hawkins

I was in the middle of reading it and went to the next page and it was gone.

To be honest I am not sure why this thread even exists. If people like certain aspects of the laserdisc, fine. But how on Gods green earth could you watch a LD over the BD version?

I get that you like LD but over BD? That sounds like someone is taking crazy pills.

You like analog? Get a record player. There is a huge niche market of players and shops around this. They still make records.

But I digress, if you like LD that is totally cool. Enjoy it. Just not sure how a sane person says that the LD is better than BD.

Ok, thanks Jim.

They must not have liked my dinosaur joke.

Jim Hawkins · 07-30-2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tech-UK

Ok, thanks Jim.

They must not have liked my dinosaur joke.

What?! They deleted a dinosaur joke too? This is getting out of hand.

Oh well. I wonder if they could edit out the bad bits and leave the good stuff for the entertainment value?

Tech-UK · 07-30-2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Hawkins

What?! They deleted a dinosaur joke too? This is getting out of hand.

Oh well. I wonder if they could edit out the bad bits and leave the good stuff for the entertainment value?

Hehe.

WiWavelength · 07-30-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tech-UK

What happened? I have been away, did the guy get banned?

If you want to read what went down with the manic ramblings of either an unappreciated genius or a certified lunatic, the bulk of those posts are at least temporarily available in the Google cache:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&client=safari

AJ

Tech-UK · 07-31-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WiWavelength

If you want to read what went down with the manic ramblings of either an unappreciated genius or a certified lunatic, the bulk of those posts are at least temporarily available in the Google cache:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&client=safari

AJ

Thanks.

oldgame · 07-31-2013, 12:06 PM

I still watch and buy laserdisc's. The only reason I will watch a laserdisc over a blu-ray is the movie is not availible on blu, or the laserdisc is a different cut of the film. Example Star Wars or THX 1138.

bluthx · 07-31-2013, 06:03 PM

WOW. I have to say that that gentleman was completely off his rocker. I've had Betamax, VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, HD-DVD and now Bluray and I have loved all of them. and at the moment Bluray is the best of them. Yes back in the 80's and early 90's Laserdisc was "the $hit". But to say that it is even comparable to what we have now is just right out of left field. I don't know what he is using to make his comparisons? but I use my eyes and ears and as far as I can tell Bluray is far superior to those early formats.

wormraper · 07-31-2013, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiWavelength

If you want to read what went down with the manic ramblings of either an unappreciated genius or a certified lunatic, the bulk of those posts are at least temporarily available in the Google cache:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&client=safari

AJ

omgsh!!!!! that was the funniest thing EVER!! I'm so sad I missed the fun

Pondosinatra · 02-06-2014, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bluthx

... but I use my eyes and ears and as far as I can tell Bluray is far superior to those early formats.

Although it's nice with LD when you don't have to put up with forever load times or 'we can't play this disc, please update your blu-ray player's firmware' etc. etc. issues that make Blu-ray so endearing...

timcat4843 · 02-24-2014, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IvenFaint

Do Blu-Ray discs sound better than these LDs, or are they about the same? Thoughts? Opinions?

I had Independence Day on laserdisc and the sound quality rocked!

However, I picked up ID4 on Blu-ray and the sound quality, totally blows away what was on the LD.

That opening scene, where

[Show spoiler]

just shakes my enter room and rattles the windows.

The LD version never did that.

Brett C · 02-25-2014, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by timcat4843

I had Independence Day on laserdisc and the sound quality rocked!

However, I picked up ID4 on Blu-ray and the sound quality, totally blows away what was on the LD.

That opening scene, where

[Show spoiler]

just shakes my enter room and rattles the windows.

The LD version never did that.

Agreed the BD is a lot better, but the LD was no slouch in its day, it most certainly crushed the DD track on the DVD which sounded overly compressed by comparison. The best A-B comparison for this was the canyon scene.

Pondosinatra · 03-06-2014, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Brett C

Agreed the BD is a lot better, but the LD was no slouch in its day, it most certainly crushed the DD track on the DVD which sounded overly compressed by comparison. The best A-B comparison for this was the canyon scene.

I prefer the LD version of Talking Heads Stop Making Sense. I run it over my analog outs through my stereo amp.

For comparison I did the theatrical soundtrack from the Blu-ray which is the closest comparison you can have.

The Blu-ray sounds perfect. Too perfect. To me the LD sounds much more natural and like I'm actually at the concert.

slimdude · 03-06-2014, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

The Blu-ray sounds perfect. Too perfect. To me the LD sounds much more natural and like I'm actually at the concert.

This doesn't make sense.

mywhitenoise · 03-06-2014, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

This doesn't make sense.

Yes it does. Think of it like this. Someone could have the greatest plastic surgery every, their perfectly symmetrical face would look weird to most people, because everyone of our faces have natural imperfections.

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04-07-2012, 06:40 AM	#122
victortubeman Active Member Member since:Mar 2012 Location:Sydney Australia Home Theater Gallery:14 Blu-ray collection:1730 DVD collection:598	Hi, DTS on laserdisc can sound very good compared to DVD DTS , but Bluray DTS MA and Dolby True HD are far better sounding than DTS on laserdisc and can even best ,hi end 2 chan systems(cd) with the Multi Chan system 2 to 3 times plus the cost. I have 3 systems,1 large HT system,1 small HT system($35k au) and another Hi end 2 chan system.Movie Bluray audio always suprises me with how great it sounds on the main (large) HT,concert Blurays are a different story. Regards Victor.

07-29-2013, 11:13 PM	#123
Jim Hawkins Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Everett, WA Home Theater Gallery:61 Blu-ray collection:100	I missed the action! I was enjoying reading the drama and only got a few posts in. Hope everyone came out all right.

07-30-2013, 04:58 PM	#125
Tech-UK Blu-ray Ninja Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Sep 2010 Location:UK Home Theater Gallery:96 4K collection:215 Blu-ray collection:1167 Blu-ray reviews: 20 Trading Score:23	What happened? I have been away, did the guy get banned?

07-30-2013, 06:35 PM	#126
Jim Hawkins Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Everett, WA Home Theater Gallery:61 Blu-ray collection:100	I was in the middle of reading it and went to the next page and it was gone. To be honest I am not sure why this thread even exists. If people like certain aspects of the laserdisc, fine. But how on Gods green earth could you watch a LD over the BD version? I get that you like LD but over BD? That sounds like someone is taking crazy pills. You like analog? Get a record player. There is a huge niche market of players and shops around this. They still make records. But I digress, if you like LD that is totally cool. Enjoy it. Just not sure how a sane person says that the LD is better than BD.

07-31-2013, 12:06 PM	#132
oldgame Senior Member Member since:May 2009 Home Theater Gallery:46 Blu-ray reviews:11	I still watch and buy laserdisc's. The only reason I will watch a laserdisc over a blu-ray is the movie is not availible on blu, or the laserdisc is a different cut of the film. Example Star Wars or THX 1138.

07-31-2013, 06:03 PM	#133
bluthx Senior Member Member since:Apr 2010 Location:central new york 4K collection:208 Blu-ray collection:1772 DVD collection:1163 Blu-ray reviews:1	WOW. I have to say that that gentleman was completely off his rocker. I've had Betamax, VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, HD-DVD and now Bluray and I have loved all of them. and at the moment Bluray is the best of them. Yes back in the 80's and early 90's Laserdisc was "the $hit". But to say that it is even comparable to what we have now is just right out of left field. I don't know what he is using to make his comparisons? but I use my eyes and ears and as far as I can tell Bluray is far superior to those early formats.

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