(BOOK SPOILERS) Game of Thrones Series Discussion for Book Readers

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

I'm anxious to see how far into A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons they go this season. It seems inevitable that Theon, Bran, & Brienne's stories this season will venture into those books' material (and perhaps Daenerys as well).

In the case of Brienne, I think it's a great thing to do since many people seem to regard her section in A Feast for Crows as rather dull, even though I don't necessarily agree (not surprising, given I quite like AFFC on the whole). Mixing her story in with the more plot progressive events of the latter half of ASOS will minimize these complaints I think (as will the more streamlined pacing inherent to the tv show).

[Edword]

Yeah I'm curious as well how much material we see this season. I figured Theon, Bran stories would go quickly. Forgot about Brienne's part though.

[kernel_thai]

They have kind of made a bit of a logistics puzzle by not moving all the arcs together at the same pace. For example, The Wall seems to be moving at book pace so it would hard to push Theon too much because the two stories bump together. Maybe that's what the Yara comes to the rescue thread is supposed to do. They have a lot more freedom with pushing Dany's story forward because she doesnt bump into anyone until Tyrion. It will be interesting to see how it works out.

[kernel_thai]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

I'm anxious to see how far into A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons they go this season. It seems inevitable that Theon, Bran, & Brienne's stories this season will venture into those books' material (and perhaps Daenerys as well).

In the case of Brienne, I think it's a great thing to do since many people seem to regard her section in A Feast for Crows as rather dull, even though I don't necessarily agree (not surprising, given I quite like AFFC on the whole). Mixing her story in with the more plot progressive events of the latter half of ASOS will minimize these complaints I think (as will the more streamlined pacing inherent to the tv show).

I dont watch the clips but Ive read that the dragons r ADWD size so Dany's thread is being pushed I guess.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Edword

Yeah I'm curious as well how much material we see this season. I figured Theon, Bran stories would go quickly. Forgot about Brienne's part though.

My problem is that I blitz-read the books over about three months (there was a short break between the first four books and when ADWD came out, and I filled that with the Dunk & Egg novellas) and I have a hard time remembering what events happened in which books. It all feels like one really long book to me (as it should, I suppose).

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Also, the events in the book are not strictly linear. Stuff in the beginning of Book 3 takes place during certain events at the end of Book 2, Books 4 & 5 overlap, etc. So D&D have some leeway in terms of the structure of the series.

As far as Brienne's story goes, I'm not sure how that will unfold. At first I thought they'd have her run-in with the Brotherhood be the introduction to Lady Stoneheart. But they can't have that happen until Jaime is in the Riverlands, since the next time we see Brienne is when she finds him and asks him to go with her (unless we're not going to see her for a good deal of Season 5).

Not to mention that Podrick has to join her, and I can't see that happening until after Tyrion's escape.

Like I said, I'm quite interested to see how D & D weave these story threads in the upcoming seasons.

[Cook]

Originally Posted by kernel_thai

I dont watch the clips but Ive read that the dragons r ADWD size so Dany's thread is being pushed I guess.

I don't think the dragons are ADWD size yet. They are big but not that big.

[kernel_thai]

OK so I broke down and watched the 4th trailer (Devil) From the look of it it seems like Brienne is being sent to look for Arya. This solves the problem of the Brienne/Jamie thread passing the Sansa thread.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by kernel_thai

OK so I broke down and watched the 4th trailer (Devil) From the look of it it seems like Brienne is being sent to look for Arya. This solves the problem of the Brienne/Jamie thread passing the Sansa thread.

I wouldn't be so sure. Trailer editing can be deceiving.

[kernel_thai]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

I wouldn't be so sure. Trailer editing can be deceiving.

True...but how can they have Brienne just hang about waiting on Sansa?

[CIBartowski]

Originally Posted by kernel_thai

True...but how can they have Brienne just hang about waiting on Sansa?

In the books, wasn't she originally imprisoned when they reached Kings Landing? True , in the books they didn't reach Kings Landing until after the Purple Wedding, but it could still work.

Imprison Brienne, Joffery Dies , Littlefinger slips away with Sansa, Jamie releases Brienne to find Sansa...

[kernel_thai]

Originally Posted by CIBartowski

In the books, wasn't she originally imprisoned when they reached Kings Landing? True , in the books they didn't reach Kings Landing until after the Purple Wedding, but it could still work.

Imprison Brienne, Joffery Dies , Littlefinger slips away with Sansa, Jamie releases Brienne to find Sansa...

Considering it's meaningless search anyway as she hasnt found Sansa yet, it really doesnt matter who she is looking for. Considering where she ends up, Arya actually makes more sense but for all it matters it could be Hodor.

[Javert]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

I wouldn't be so sure. Trailer editing can be deceiving.

You have no idea.

Or you may...

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

I was worried I wouldn't be satisfied with the premiere episode considering the joy that awaits us next week , but that was a pretty incredible season premiere.

And, hey, Ser Dontos! Better late than never.

Originally Posted by kernel_thai

True...but how can they have Brienne just hang about waiting on Sansa?

Told'ya.

[Witch King of Angmar]

Next week's episode is going be the best episode ever.

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[Edword]

I'm not sure what's going to be more entertaining, the Red Wedding reactions or the Purple Wedding reactions

The one thing that's going to be slightly disappointing though is that we won't have much time with Oberyn.

[JamesKurtovich]

Originally Posted by kernel_thai

I dont watch the clips but Ive read that the dragons r ADWD size so Dany's thread is being pushed I guess.

The dragons aren't that big yet.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Witch King of Angmar

Next week's episode is going be the best episode ever.

And the crowd goes WILD!!!!

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by Edword

The one thing that's going to be slightly disappointing though is that we won't have much time with Oberyn.

No kidding. Pedro Pascal is freaking incredible in the role. It's that same feeling I had watching Sean Bean in Season 1, knowing we weren't going to have that long to enjoy his performance.

At least he'll have one hell of an exit.

On another note, can I just say hooray for Jon getting some extended dialogue in the episode. Being a quiet character in the books is fine, but in the show I feel it's come at the cost of really meaty character development. You got the sense in his scenes that the character has really changed since heading Beyond the Wall. Kit did a great job, and I hope this more vocal Jon is one we'll be seeing from here on out.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

With the introduction of Oberyn and the Dornish, I really hope we get to see more of Dorne in the show. I know they'll be streamlining a lot of stuff (if they keep to the 7 season plan), but the casting really just brings some of these characters to life so much - and I'd love to see them go there.

Also, even if they don't focus too much on all the political stuff in the Iron Islands, I do hope we see the Greyjoy uncles. Depending on who they cast, those roles could leap much more off the screen than they do off the page IMO.