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cinemaphile · 05-01-2014, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by aiman04

A title announcement would be nice. But that will probably be during Comic Con.

this year? no.

in the past titles have been announced in July/Aug/Sept, which was 8-10 months before release. (Phantom Menace was the latest, with September 25)
With Episode VII not being released until December, I would not expect a title announcement until at least the start of the new year

Aragorn the Elfstone · 05-01-2014, 04:19 AM

Talking about titles reminds me of when TPM came out and how I tended to refer to it solely as "Episode I".

Probably having to with how prominently the episode number was used in the promotional title graphic, whereas the older films had just been called Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi.

Gamma_Winstead · 05-01-2014, 04:30 AM

Am I the only one that isn't really phased by the throwing out of the EU? I mean, I have a bookshelf with dozens of Star Wars books. Half the stuff in them, I doubt they'd bring up in the films anyways! The Han Solo trilogy, Truce at Bakara, all kinds of stuff. Especially the Before Yavin stuff. To me it'll still be there whether the movie references it or not. It's not like the movies reference the animated Clone Wars series. To the films, Mauls survival means just as much as boba Fetts. Meaning: none. It's just cool to know.

toddly6666 · 05-01-2014, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Am I the only one that isn't really phased by the throwing out of the EU? I mean, I have a bookshelf with dozens of Star Wars books. Half the stuff in them, I doubt they'd bring up in the films anyways! The Han Solo trilogy, Truce at Bakara, all kinds of stuff. Especially the Before Yavin stuff. To me it'll still be there whether the movie references it or not. It's not like the movies reference the animated Clone Wars series. To the films, Mauls survival means just as much as boba Fetts. Meaning: none. It's just cool to know.

im not phased at all - I agree with you. The books as well as the cartoons are just bonus curiosities, much better additions to the OT than the prequels.

Aragorn the Elfstone · 05-01-2014, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Am I the only one that isn't really phased by the throwing out of the EU? I mean, I have a bookshelf with dozens of Star Wars books. Half the stuff in them, I doubt they'd bring up in the films anyways! The Han Solo trilogy, Truce at Bakara, all kinds of stuff. Especially the Before Yavin stuff. To me it'll still be there whether the movie references it or not. It's not like the movies reference the animated Clone Wars series. To the films, Mauls survival means just as much as boba Fetts. Meaning: none. It's just cool to know.

Well, I'm not phased in the sense that I'm just considering the new films to be an "alternate" storyline. The EU books, namely the Thrawn Trilogy, Shadows of the Empire and such, are from a time when Star Wars was The Star Wars Trilogy.

Honestly, I feel the same way towards the prequels. Between the continuity issues, the vastly different visual style, etc., they've never existed on the same plane as the original films for me.

But the books succeeded for me in feeling like the original films and evoke a sense of being part of that history and texture of the trilogy. So for me, they'll always be intrinsically linked to the story I grew up with.

spanky87 · 05-01-2014, 06:14 AM

If you like it and it doesn't contradict something in the films then it can be canon to you if you want. I don't see how the events in Shadows of the Empire would be affected by the new trilogy.

Aragorn the Elfstone · 05-01-2014, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by spanky87

If you like it ~~and it doesn't contradict something in the films~~ then it can be canon to you if you want.

Fixed.

octagon · 05-01-2014, 06:40 AM

If a canon fires in a forest...

cinemaphile · 05-01-2014, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Am I the only one that isn't really phased by the throwing out of the EU?

no, because they aren't "throwing it out". It was NEVER part of the official story. It was more like... authorized fan fiction.

Aragorn the Elfstone · 05-01-2014, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cinemaphile

no, because they aren't "throwing it out". It was NEVER part of the official story. It was more like... authorized fan fiction.

"The Authorized Continuation of the Star Wars Saga...."

So says my paperback edition of Heir to the Empire.

Honestly, though, it's pointless debating this. What is or is not canon in Star Wars is so unbelievably open to debate it's not even funny. Even in the original films, i.e. is Han a cold blooded killer, or the guy who kills only in self defense?

For me, the only film level canon is what's in the original trilogy (aka the story I grew up with for years). After that it's up to me (the EU comes next - also part of my childhood). I'm looking forward to the new movies, but they're more an alternate story as far as I'm concerned.

My philosophy comes from years of being a Highlander fan. You think you guys can rely on basing canon off of what's in the films? Not every franchise has that luxury.

iank · 05-01-2014, 08:25 AM

Canon = the death of possibility.

wormraper · 05-01-2014, 08:43 AM

Unfortunately 90% of the EU is better than the entire prequel trilogy put together

JJLong · 05-01-2014, 09:24 AM

Well, they haven't said they are throwing out the EU completely. They still might use ideas or names from it.

Sort of like how Heir to the Empire named Coruscant.

Malik True · 05-01-2014, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

The discussion at hand suggests that the only thing Andy brings to his roles is his ability to put on a motion capture suit.

I think he's proved by now that he's one hell of an actor.

Close but that's not where I was going, that list below suggest there's sizable number of folks who can do what Andy does and we are talking about "ACTORS". I am not intimating he is not good at what he does because he is, it just appears he's offered the premium roles as if there no other actors capable of pulling off what he does.

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Originally Posted by cinemaphile

Mark Ruffalo (Avengers)
Bill Nighy and the rest of the Dutchman crew (Pirates/Caribbean 2 & 3)
Ahmed Best (SW Ep 1)
Seth MacFarlane (Ted)

The entire casts of:
Avatar
A Christmas Carol
Beowulf
Adventures of Tintin
Mars Needs Moms
Monster House

...and many many others

NYorker · 05-01-2014, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Malik True

Close but that's not where I was going, that list below suggest there's sizable number of folks who can do what Andy does and we are talking about "ACTORS". I am not intimating he is not good at what he does because he is, it just appears he's offered the premium roles as if there no other actors capable of pulling off what he does.

So you're suggesting Andy Serkis isn't an actor but seth MacFarlane is...?

The only other person on that list worth considering is Bill Nighy, who was excellent in POTC.

Gamma_Winstead · 05-01-2014, 02:20 PM

I can name you several actors that have done mo-cap for video games that are wonderful actors. Plenty of people can act in mo-cap. Andy just happens to be a phenomenal actor that deserves his roles!

Spirit Zero · 05-01-2014, 03:13 PM

The Edge · 05-01-2014, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cinemaphile

no, because they aren't "throwing it out". It was NEVER part of the official story. It was more like... authorized fan fiction.

That's what I've always thought of the EU as well. Nice to know it's not going to be immortalized in cinema.

Kirk Out · 05-01-2014, 03:34 PM

^^ lol awesome vid

cinemaphile · 05-01-2014, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirk Out

^^ lol awesome vid

really? I found it obnoxious and annoying.

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05-01-2014, 04:19 AM	#5862
Aragorn the Elfstone Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Sep 2008 Location:The Secondary World 4K collection:245 Blu-ray collection:773 DVD collection:152 Digital collection:115	Talking about titles reminds me of when TPM came out and how I tended to refer to it solely as "Episode I". Probably having to with how prominently the episode number was used in the promotional title graphic, whereas the older films had just been called Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi.

05-01-2014, 04:30 AM	#5863
Gamma_Winstead Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:U.S.G. Ishimura 4K collection:118 Blu-ray collection:764 Blu-ray reviews: 36 Trading Score:6	Am I the only one that isn't really phased by the throwing out of the EU? I mean, I have a bookshelf with dozens of Star Wars books. Half the stuff in them, I doubt they'd bring up in the films anyways! The Han Solo trilogy, Truce at Bakara, all kinds of stuff. Especially the Before Yavin stuff. To me it'll still be there whether the movie references it or not. It's not like the movies reference the animated Clone Wars series. To the films, Mauls survival means just as much as boba Fetts. Meaning: none. It's just cool to know.

05-01-2014, 06:14 AM	#5866
spanky87 Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:34 4K collection:168 Blu-ray collection:2714 DVD collection:548 iTunes collection:58 Trading Score:64	If you like it and it doesn't contradict something in the films then it can be canon to you if you want. I don't see how the events in Shadows of the Empire would be affected by the new trilogy.

05-01-2014, 06:40 AM	#5868
octagon Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Chicago 4K collection:255 Blu-ray collection:2799	If a canon fires in a forest...

05-01-2014, 08:25 AM	#5871
iank Banned Member since:Feb 2014 Location:QLD, Australia DVD collection:323 Blu-ray reviews:4	Canon = the death of possibility.

05-01-2014, 08:43 AM	#5872
wormraper Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Tucson Arizona 4K collection:969 Blu-ray collection:5300 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:572	Unfortunately 90% of the EU is better than the entire prequel trilogy put together

05-01-2014, 09:24 AM	#5873
JJLong Senior Member Member since:Oct 2012 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:135 DVD collection:20	Well, they haven't said they are throwing out the EU completely. They still might use ideas or names from it. Sort of like how Heir to the Empire named Coruscant.

05-01-2014, 02:20 PM	#5876
Gamma_Winstead Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:U.S.G. Ishimura 4K collection:118 Blu-ray collection:764 Blu-ray reviews: 36 Trading Score:6	I can name you several actors that have done mo-cap for video games that are wonderful actors. Plenty of people can act in mo-cap. Andy just happens to be a phenomenal actor that deserves his roles!

05-01-2014, 03:34 PM	#5879
Kirk Out Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2008 Location:Bay Area Oakland , Ca Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:-	^^ lol awesome vid

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