Nightbreed: The Director's Cut (1990) (Limited Edition - SOLD OUT)

[zbinks]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

Remember, $79.97 is the MSRP for the LE, and the price that Shout! is selling it for, and not the price you will pay via Amazon.com or other retailers who will stock the set, where it will likely be significantly cheaper.

Amazon's standard discount when their Shout! Factory preorders go live is typically 30%, which means this set should be roughly $56.00 when the links go up. Big difference between that and MSRP.

Originally Posted by dsman71

Makes you wonder about the pending news about the upcoming blu ray of Lord of Illusions

I don't anticipate a limited edition / special edition scenario for that release. There is no dual rights situation that I'm aware of to muck things up and the differences between the unrated cut of Lord of Illusions and the R-rated theatrical cut aren't as extensive as what we're seeing with Nightbreed, either. I suspect they'll either include both cuts on the same disc via seamless branching, or skip the theatrical cut altogether.

[dvdwatcher]

So the only advantage to ordering from Shout is early release, a poster, and a numbered copy?

[dsman71]

Originally Posted by RedIsNotBlue

You do realize this is a unique circumstance right? The amount of effort, restoration costs, licensing fees, etc. are the reason why the price is so high. It's not going to be a standard practice.

Ive been making comments about that but no one seems to get it

[dvdwatcher]

Originally Posted by Akijama

In case this hasn't been posted here before:

"The limited edition will have a reverse wrap inside that will have both the Joel Robinson and Ralph M art. Also, the theatrical cut (which will be in its own Blu ray case) will have two theatrical poster art designs - one on each side of the wrap - to choose from."

Where is this information coming from?

[RedIsNotBlue]

Originally Posted by dvdwatcher

So the only advantage to ordering from Shout is early release, a poster, and a numbered copy?

Yep. Well as long as the first 1,000 copies last.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by Lacrymosa

...

First world problems.

A problem is still a problem.

[jlk5844]

Warner shouldn't have been dicks and allowed more copies to be pressed of the set with the theatrical cut.

[tylergfoster]

I do think $60 would be more reasonable but what do I know.

As for the extras, of course, they've got to be on the LE or nobody will buy the LE, and the LE is what Shout! is counting on to make this release financially viable. People are correct that putting them on the LE is kind of bilking the customer, but they're wrong to think Shout! isn't aware of that, as that's kind of the draw.

I doubt that many people would shell out JUST for the TC on Blu-Ray.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by dissention

What I want to know is how long until Warner Archive starts selling Blus of the theatrical cut for $20? Once these 5,000 units sell out? Then those who jumped on this will have paid $80 for a disc of bonus features.

I bet this SF/WB deal includes a window of time where WB must wait to release the theatrical cut separately.

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by chris_sc77

After mulling the 3 disk sets exorbitant price tag I think i have lost a lot of my love for the entire Blu-ray format.
Hard to be excited for future releases if this is something that will become standard practice.
I have spent 15 years building a library on DVD and Blu-ray because it was a n affordable way to build a film collection.
But when it is $80 for a single film with the same amount of extras we got on great catalog releases 10 years ago then whats the point?
Its no longer fun

This couldn't be farther from what you are talking about. This is a VERY niche title that wouldn't even get a glance from a major studio. If WB released this we would be lucky to get a bare bones release that wasn't an upscale of the existing DVD master. SE releases from major studios are always from tried and true titles that they know will get a broad audience. The amount of work that SF did for this goes so far above and beyond what anyone would expect for this type of film it is ridiculous. But the fact is this is STILL a niche title and for them to even justify that type of work and hope to recoup the costs of it would require them to try and get a premium price from those that would ABSOLUTELY want what they did and support that type of project. The cost probably reflects the expected volume of sales more than anything. This model is seen CONSTANTLY in all forms of media with price tags that are always far and above what the casual consumer would want to pay for something, but these sets aren't geared toward them. SF didn't go to the effort they went to so that someone who might be slightly interested in this title could see it this way, they did this for the people who have been clamoring for this release for YEARS.

If you don't want to pay a premium, at least they give you a solid option. It kills me that so many people want stuff like this for obscure titles and here it is but then complain because they don't want to pay for it or expect it to cost the same amount of money as a title that has a SE that is expected to probably sell well over 100x's as many copies if not more. It isn't like they slapped together a release by licensing a movie and just taking the existing master and some youtube special feature clips and calling it good.

[tylerdurden10]

Originally Posted by slimdude

There is no way, I would pay $80.00 for one blu-ray movie, regardless what it is. That's ridiculous! There's a sucker born every minute.

...Or a big fan of the film that is ecstatic to finally have this fully restored on blu-ray AND realizes that $80 is pretty much chump change for a release they've waited YEARS for.

[JohnCarpenterLives]

Originally Posted by tommynorcal

Nightbreed has been worked on since like 2003

Has it really been THAT long since they found VHS copies of the missing footage? Holy cow I'm old. I had no idea I was waiting over a decade for this.

Unrelated Double-Feature plans: I'm definitely setting up a DF with Dust Devil and Nightbreed.

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by tylerdurden10

...Or a big fan of the film that is ecstatic to finally have this fully restored on blu-ray AND realizes that $80 is pretty much chump change for a release they've waited YEARS for.

Exactly. Funny thing is, I wouldn't have thought twice to click purchase on the LE even if it was only the Cabal cut with the VHS footage. The fact that they've managed to actually hunt down the negatives and do a full restore WITH the director attached makes this an absolute no brainer in my book.

[Akijama]

Meanwhile....

***NIGHTBREED: LIMITED EDITION UPDATE***

Wow you guys REALLY love Midian! We are overwhelmed with the amazing response to yesterday’s announcement of NIGHTBREED: THE DIRECTOR'S CUT, and we sold through the first 1,000 units of the Limited Edition set on our site overnight!

If you ordered from us and your order # precedes 83300 (and you have your confirmation email stating your order is “taken”) your set will ship from the initial 1,000. We have secured the next 1,000 sets and will continue to allocate those early number sets to buyers on the SHOUT Factory site.

As always, THANK YOU for supporting Scream Factory! If you have any questions about your specific order, please contact our customer service department at shoutfactorycs@owd.com

https://www.facebook.com/ScreamFacto...62601740543509

[Lacrymosa]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

A problem is still a problem.

As you can see, I'm not delighted by the price either, but just bringing in perspective to create some levity, however momentary, to the situation.

[David A.]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

This couldn't be farther from what you are talking about. This is a VERY niche title that wouldn't even get a glance from a major studio. If WB released this we would be lucky to get a bare bones release that wasn't an upscale of the existing DVD master. SE releases from major studios are always from tried and true titles that they know will get a broad audience. The amount of work that SF did for this goes so far above and beyond what anyone would expect for this type of film it is ridiculous. But the fact is this is STILL a niche title and for them to even justify that type of work and hope to recoup the costs of it would require them to try and get a premium price from those that would ABSOLUTELY want what they did and support that type of project. The cost probably reflects the expected volume of sales more than anything. This model is seen CONSTANTLY in all forms of media with price tags that are always far and above what the casual consumer would want to pay for something, but these sets aren't geared toward them. SF didn't go to the effort they went to so that someone who might be slightly interested in this title could see it this way, they did this for the people who have been clamoring for this release for YEARS.

If you don't want to pay a premium, at least they give you a solid option. It kills me that so many people want stuff like this for obscure titles and here it is but then complain because they don't want to pay for it or expect it to cost the same amount of money as a title that has a SE that is expected to probably sell well over 100x's as many copies if not more. It isn't like they slapped together a release by licensing a movie and just taking the existing master and some youtube special feature clips and calling it good.

I agree wholeheartedly. I was an early member of Occupy Midian and we had to beg, plead and then show up in droves for the Cabal cut screenings just to prove to Morgan Creek that it would be worth their while to license the movie out. They had zero interest in putting out a Blu-ray and the head of the studio said, "We don't license out our movies." when this project was initially brought to them. There wouldn't even be a DVD upscale transfer if it wasn't for Scream Factory, let alone a new HD transfer. For years no one would even bother looking in their film vaults for the lost footage.

[bb8977]

SF just posted on facebook that the first 1000 copies sold over night !

[tylerdurden10]

Originally Posted by Akijama

Meanwhile....

***NIGHTBREED: LIMITED EDITION UPDATE***

Wow you guys REALLY love Midian! We are overwhelmed with the amazing response to yesterday’s announcement of NIGHTBREED: THE DIRECTOR'S CUT, and we sold through the first 1,000 units of the Limited Edition set on our site overnight!

If you ordered from us and your order # precedes 83300 (and you have your confirmation email stating your order is “taken”) your set will ship from the initial 1,000. We have secured the next 1,000 sets and will continue to allocate those early number sets to buyers on the SHOUT Factory site.

As always, THANK YOU for supporting Scream Factory! If you have any questions about your specific order, please contact our customer service department at shoutfactorycs@owd.com

https://www.facebook.com/ScreamFacto...62601740543509

Awesome, I'm in since my order was well before that!

[bigdaddyhorse]

Originally Posted by Akijama

Meanwhile....

***NIGHTBREED: LIMITED EDITION UPDATE***

Wow you guys REALLY love Midian! We are overwhelmed with the amazing response to yesterday’s announcement of NIGHTBREED: THE DIRECTOR'S CUT, and we sold through the first 1,000 units of the Limited Edition set on our site overnight!

If you ordered from us and your order # precedes 83300 (and you have your confirmation email stating your order is “taken”) your set will ship from the initial 1,000. We have secured the next 1,000 sets and will continue to allocate those early number sets to buyers on the SHOUT Factory site.

As always, THANK YOU for supporting Scream Factory! If you have any questions about your specific order, please contact our customer service department at shoutfactorycs@owd.com

https://www.facebook.com/ScreamFacto...62601740543509

Originally Posted by bb8977

SF just posted on facebook that the first 1000 copies sold over night !

Early overnight by what I see. I ordered mine late afternoon and my confirmation email is timed at 5:02 pm EST, order 82873. If I can count, that's only 127 more to make the first 1000, doubt they made it to midnight Eastern, much less Pacific. I've still got a one in a thousand chance of getting #666!

[Lacrymosa]

Originally Posted by Akijama

Meanwhile....

***NIGHTBREED: LIMITED EDITION UPDATE***

Wow you guys REALLY love Midian! We are overwhelmed with the amazing response to yesterday’s announcement of NIGHTBREED: THE DIRECTOR'S CUT, and we sold through the first 1,000 units of the Limited Edition set on our site overnight!

If you ordered from us and your order # precedes 83300 (and you have your confirmation email stating your order is “taken”) your set will ship from the initial 1,000. We have secured the next 1,000 sets and will continue to allocate those early number sets to buyers on the SHOUT Factory site.

As always, THANK YOU for supporting Scream Factory! If you have any questions about your specific order, please contact our customer service department at shoutfactorycs@owd.com

https://www.facebook.com/ScreamFacto...62601740543509

Hope there are going to be some left over for Amazon, etc where the shipping to Canada will be cheaper.