Viz Licenses Original Sailor Moon Anime Franchise

[TheAnimeLegend]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

It's been mentioned over, and over, and over again. In this exact same thread.

The Blu-ray isn't even out yet, people are taking the stream and slapping the word "Blu-ray" on it.

Originally Posted by madlost1

As scarface said it's all bs and speculation at this point as to the PQ. You can't keep taking caps off of a stream and trying to pass them off as indictive of the quality of the Blu release. As for their argument on price it's completely bs. The $80 SRP is just that the Suggested Retail Price. If anyone is buying anything at SRP they are doing their shopping horribly wrong. The first set can be had for $60 from rightstuf.com right now. Also not every set after that will be at that price. Only the first set of each season will have the extras with it to justify that price while the second half of each season will be in a regular case to fit in the first box and at a lower price. Research for this type of set is essential and it seems like you ignored everything that was posted in this thread previously and decided to go with the word of a random blog.

+1

I will reserve judgment until I see the final product, from what I saw from the "Sailor Moon" panel at the anime convention, the footage appeared decent a clear improvement over the DVD remasters, however looks can be deceiving and I realize this. All the same I am remaining optimistic about this Blu-ray release, and am hoping that Viz Media does a great job on the restoring the film footage of the show.

[Mel823]

Originally Posted by BigManDeath

Full disclosure: I am an anime fan, but never watched Sailor Moon. Had some interest in this blu-ray release out of sheer curiosity, but not anymore:

http://www.kentaiblog.com/2014/07/sailor-fools.html

Shame on Toei for not producing a real HD master for a classic series such as this, and shame on Viz for trying to pass off an ugly upscale as true HD

Shame on Viz for what?! They said what they were working with from day 1.

If it's a shame on anybody it's these random blog post and forum post of people acting like they have some insider information, when they don't. They know as much as we do, and they need to stop making BS up and trying to pass it up as fact. I don't know why some people are going out of their way to be completely negative about this release. They need to stop instigating and calm their behinds down and wait for the release.

[Scarface32]

I wish VIZ could release these sets faster. Hulu is already up to episode 20. At this rate I'll see all 200 episodes subbed before I finish the first season of the show on BD (especially since the BD releases are half season).

[Thomas Guycott]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

I wish VIZ could release these sets faster. Hulu is already up to episode 20. At this rate I'll see all 200 episodes subbed before I finish the first season of the show on BD (especially since the BD releases are half season).

Maybe that's part of their plan.

[BigManDeath]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

It's been mentioned over, and over, and over again. In this exact same thread.

The Blu-ray isn't even out yet, people are taking the stream and slapping the word "Blu-ray" on it.

Sorry, read back through the thread a bit, but didn't go far enough

This was the first negative thing I had heard about the upcoming blu-rays, so I was pretty shocked (especially since Viz's Ranma 1/2 blu-rays are good quality releases). I realize the discs aren't out yet, but from what Viz has said in their interview with ANN and the screenshots provided in that same interview... maybe they should have just done a DVD release and skipped blu-ray altogether.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by BigManDeath

Sorry, read back through the thread a bit, but didn't go far enough

This was the first negative thing I had heard about the upcoming blu-rays, so I was pretty shocked (especially since Viz's Ranma 1/2 blu-rays are good quality releases). I realize the discs aren't out yet, but from what Viz has said in their interview with ANN and the screenshots provided in that same interview... maybe they should have just done a DVD release and skipped blu-ray altogether.

The screenshots included in the ANN interview, weren't provided by VIZ. They were compiled by whoever wrote the interview.

[madlost1]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

The screenshots included in the ANN interview, weren't provided by VIZ. They were compiled by whoever wrote the interview.

Actually the screens in this particular interview were from VIZ:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/inte...on-sailor-moon

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by madlost1

Actually the screens in this particular interview were from VIZ:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/inte...on-sailor-moon

Yes I've read the interview multiple times. Please tell me where it says "these were provided directly by VIZ"

[madlost1]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

Yes I've read the interview multiple times. Please tell me where it says "these were provided directly by VIZ"

It doesn't they are the promotional images that VIZ provided when the license was first announced. Also if they were from the stream and keep in mind that these promo shots were released before the stream started there would be the neon ally logo in the corner. I agree I don't think the shot is indictive of the quality of the final Blu release but they are directly from VIZ.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by madlost1

It doesn't they are the promotional images that VIZ provided when the license was first announced.

So in other words, they are mockups. Not actual images from the Blu-ray. Like I said, the image that says "Blu-ray" on it, aren't actual screens of the Blu-ray provided by VIZ. VIZ wouldn't create the Blu-rays before announcing the licensing deal.

[madlost1]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

So in other words, they are mockups. Not actual images from the Blu-ray. Like I said, the image that says "Blu-ray" on it, aren't actual screens of the Blu-ray provided by VIZ. VIZ wouldn't create the Blu-rays before announcing the licensing deal.

Look at my Edit. but they would at least have the materials that should be representative of the final product. I have a feeling they tried touching up the image a bit for the promo shot but I can't be 100% sure.

[Kirben]

I don't see how people can keep denying the Blu-Ray release of Sailor Moon isn't going suffer overdone DNR (just like Dragon Ball Z Remastered):
The interview at ANN makes it clear the Blu-Ray releases will be an upscale.
The screenshots with the initial announcement at ANN aren't mockups, Viz Media would already be working on the project.
The initial screenshots show a clear loss of details for Blu-Ray, compared to the previous DVD releases.
The HD streams are higher quality than the previous DVD releases, so any comparisons are valid. Nor does compression cause the complete lack of detail and grain that is clear in these comparisons.

Viz Media is trying to make the original Sailor Moon look more modern in order to get new and casual anime fans to buy the series. And unfortunately it seems to work, judging by how Dragon Ball Z Remastered continues to sell well.

[madlost1]

Originally Posted by Kirben

I don't see how people can keep denying the Blu-Ray release of Sailor Moon isn't going suffer overdone DNR (just like Dragon Ball Z Remastered):
The interview at ANN makes it clear the Blu-Ray releases will be an upscale.
The screenshots with the initial announcement at ANN aren't mockups, Viz Media would already be working on the project.
The initial screenshots show a clear loss of details for Blu-Ray, compared to the previous DVD releases.
The HD streams are higher quality than the previous DVD releases, so any comparisons are valid. Nor does compression cause the complete lack of detail and grain that is clear in these comparisons.

Viz Media is trying to make the original Sailor Moon look more modern in order to get new and casual anime fans to buy the series. And unfortunately it seems to work, judging by how Dragon Ball Z Remastered continues to sell well.

And I don't see how people can keep judging a Blu that doesn't come out for over 3 months now based on streams and a promo shot.

[zrdb]

Originally Posted by Mel823

Shame on Viz for what?! They said what they were working with from day 1.

If it's a shame on anybody it's these random blog post and forum post of people acting like they have some insider information, when they don't. They know as much as we do, and they need to stop making BS up and trying to pass it up as fact. I don't know why some people are going out of their way to be completely negative about this release. They need to stop instigating and calm their behinds down and wait for the release.

Yup-bullshit is bullshit. From what I've read and seen the remastered blurays are light years ahead of the old crappy dvds. So don't jump the gun until you know what you're talking about.

[Kirben]

Originally Posted by madlost1

And I don't see how people can keep judging a Blu that doesn't come out for over 3 months now based on streams and a promo shot.

The HD stream is based off the same masters as the Blu-Ray, the initial screenshots and HD streams show the exact same issue of overdone DNR.

The Blu-Ray masters, would be produced long before release, due to the time required for quality assurance, duplication, packaging and shipping.

People keeping denying facts. but fail to provide any evidence that this won't occur. Viz Media in particular are known for their complete lack of care, and been only interested in sales. With anime series (i.e. Hunter x Hunter) missing segments (new opening or endings sequences), incomplete anime releases (i.e. Monster), or anime titles not released at all (i.e. Zoids Genesis).

[mysticwaterfall]

Personally I think Viz has earned the benefit of the doubt to wait until the reviews show up. If you're skeptical about it, nobody is forcing you to pre-order it.

[Lnds500]

Originally Posted by zrdb

Yup-bullshit is bullshit. From what I've read and seen the remastered blurays are light years ahead of the old crappy dvds. So don't jump the gun until you know what you're talking about.

You mean the old US DVDs.

[flash.over]

Originally Posted by BigManDeath

Shame on Toei for not producing a real HD master for a classic series such as this, and shame on Viz for trying to pass off an ugly upscale as true HD

The original assets (for season one, at least) are gone. This is truly the best that Viz (and Toei) can do. It's still the best that this series has ever looked; and yes, I own the R2(2009) Japanese DVDs, and this looks much better. Farewell, sunburned Usagi!

[zrdb]

Originally Posted by Lnds500

You mean the old US DVDs.

What other ones would I be referring to?

[Lnds500]

Originally Posted by zrdb

What other ones would I be referring to?

You could be comparing them to the 2009 JP DVDs and not trash from 11 years ago, that's what I am saying. Much more telling on how many "years ahead" the Blu-ray is.