Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[Darkstream]

I posted the article, but I don't believe it. I think if there is money to be made, Fox and Disney will work together to make it.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by simonynwa

Doesn't matter I don't think - there is no way Fox would pass up the chance to release the originals in partnership with Disney when there's money to be made They only have six years or so to make any money from the second two sequels and prequels so Id be surprised if they say no. Only question is how much they get.

He mentions that Fox would be working in them if it was true. Didnt Lucasfilm do all the work on the originals in house ?

Fox would have jack squat to do with it, other than taking what LucasFilm delivered to them and distributing it to various markets and retailers. Still can't believe someone like Faraci doesn't understand this.

[Elvis]

Im confused as to which thread I am in....it seems both threads have gone the way of "Disney is not going to release the UOT on BD because I don't want em too and I'm a Jar Jar Binks underoo wearing kinda guy. Can't this thread stay on track about the upcoming release and the other thread be a positive "finally we get the UOT on BD"

Those of you that don't want the UOT released Please....your world is not going to change one iota by having the UOT released. You got your 6 films be happy....and let us rejoice that we are getting ours.

[Optimus]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

Yeah, but thousands of years? They didn't need to go back that far! I get that it's a fictional universe, but just looking at the history of our own planet, we've evolved greatly in such short span of time. There's a much much greater difference between where we are today from where we were a hundred years ago, let alone a thousand years ago! Then look at the how little has changed between The Old Republic and the Star Wars movies in supposedly 3,500 years. It looks like there was no progression hardly at all! Their past is so advanced that it makes their present appear to be the result of arrested development --- Thousands of years arrested! It just makes the civilizations in the Star Wars universe look dimwitted because they can't get over an almost 4,000 year old hump. I don't think they should have had spaceships or lightsabers at all in The Old Republic period if they were going to set it back that far -- heck, they should've been fighting with sticks and stones instead just to show some degree of evolution. Really, I just think the decision to make The Old Republic game set that far back in time is ridiculous. But I do love the designs and concepts, I just have a hard time buying into how far back it's supposed to take place in relation to the movies.

I don't see it like that, if they didn't have lightsabers or ships who would be interested in the games? Going back further then when those games take place and they didn't even have lightsabers. I don't find it hard to believe that their civilisation could have plateaued, it's a fantasy setting at the end of the day, I don't think many people would be too fussed over that.

[Darkstream]

Originally Posted by OptimusL

I don't see it like that, if they didn't have lightsabers or ships who would be interested in the games? Going back further then when those games take place and they didn't even have lightsabers. I don't find it hard to believe that their civilisation could have plateaued, it's a fantasy setting at the end of the day, I don't think many people would be too fussed over that.

You're missing my point. Of course they should have lightsabers and spaceships --- it's Star Wars! But to have it take place sooooo far in the past makes it unbelievable that lightsabers and spaceships would exist. That's why they should not have set it that far in the past. Being fantasy is no excuse for lack of logic. I'm all for suspension of disbelief, but 3,500 years is a long time without much change.

I'm sorry, it's just tough to swallow the idea that it took between 3,000 to 4,000 years to evolve from this...



...to only this.




So much for evolution.

[JavaJulien]

Originally Posted by Elvis

Those of you that don't want the UOT released Please....your world is not going to change one iota by having the UOT released. You got your 6 films be happy....and let us rejoice that we are getting ours.

I actually don't mind the color corrections and updated Palpatine though.

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

You're missing my point. Of course they should have lightsabers and spaceships --- it Star Wars! But to have it take place sooooo far in the past makes it unbelievable that lightsabers and spaceships would exist. That's why they should not have set it that far in the past. Being fantasy is no excuse for lack of logic. I'm all for suspension of disbelief, but 3,500 years is a long time without much change.

I'm sorry, it's just tough to swallow the idea that it took between 3,000 to 4,000 years to evolve from this...



...to only this.




So much for evolution.

To be fair, the rebels don't exactly have access to top of the line technology. There are pockets of people in our own world that use technology that would look like you stepped through a time machine and into the past. In addition, for many thousands of years, technology in our own world remained relatively static. It's only within the last couple hundred years that we have seen technological and scientific breakthroughs grow exponentially, at an unparalleled rate, more so than at any other point in human history. I guess you could say we live in a time when we are spoiled by the speed of such breakthroughs.

[simonynwa]

Thanks Ernest - I didnt know all the details but what you say makes sense

[Darkstream]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

To be fair, the rebels don't exactly have access to top of the line technology. There are pockets of people in our own world that use technology that would look like you stepped through a time machine and into the past. In addition, for many thousands of years, technology in our own world remained relatively static. It's only within the last couple hundred years that we have seen technological and scientific breakthroughs grow exponentially, at an unparalleled rate, more so than at any other point in human history. I guess you could say we live in a time when we are spoiled by the speed of such breakthroughs.

Our world is obviously a young world compared to the Star Wars universe. Like OptimusL said, you could just say that their civilization plateaued, but again, using our world as a comparison, I find it hard to believe that after so much time, there isn't any sign of evolution at all, when we've had so much change in shorter spans of time in any given period. And we're only one species on one planet. Considering how many alien species and cultures the Star Wars universe encompasses, it doesn't make much sense that there was literally that much an arrest on their development, while still maintaining functioning technology. We're not talking hundreds of years, or a thousand years -- we're talking several thousand! The only thing that would have it make sense to me is if somehow all technology was lost on the greater part of the galaxy, and then it was rediscovered later. Maybe there's a story to be told there, if it hasn't already been told.

[aiman04]

New set photo.



http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/20...set-photo.html

[stvn1974]

There is a lot of sand in that photo. I wonder if the actors dislike working in sand because it's coarse and irritating and it gets everywhere?

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by aiman04

New set photo.

[Show spoiler]

http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/20...set-photo.html

Looks nice and rough. I wonder if it's a Tuskein Raider camp or something. Looks great boss.

Originally Posted by stvn1974

There is a lot of sand in that photo. I wonder if the actors dislike working in sand because it's coarse and irritating and it gets everywhere?

I'm sure they're all wanting to snuggle up to Natalie Portman, where it's soft and smooth...

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I've got all of 'em, I had no idea that Empire and Jedi were scarce. But I look forward to adding The Art of Episode VII to them in due course.

They're not too scarce but they were superseded by the Illustrated Script books which included the SE scripts and not the original screenplays with deleted scenes. I don't think the Jedi Art Of book had a screenplay either.

[StingingVelvet]

I kind of roll my eyes at Tatooine again, to be honest.

[Darkstream]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I kind of roll my eyes at Tatooine again, to be honest.

I agree. It's a desert planet -- who cares? Been there, done that, move along now.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I kind of roll my eyes at Tatooine again, to be honest.

A lot of people have been complaining about that, but I think having Tatooine in at least the first of the new trilogy is essential. Tatooine is the one planet that connects all of the trilogies together.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by Richard Graham

I think Lucasfilm should have released a statement something like, We at Lucasfilm would like to thank all the fans for spending countless millions on EU merch all these years but you know, suck it.

I'm a bit baffled by the big deal EU fans make out of this, and I say this as I guy who grew up reading and enjoying a lot of the novels and comics (in fact, I'm going through and re-reading a lot of it right now!). As much as I enjoy a lot of the EU, I absolutely do not want Episode VII to have to fit it in with the stories and events of those books-- for one thing, Chewbacca wouldn't even be able to be in the film!

The whole idea of "canon" in a fictional series is all in your head anyway. Just think of the old EU as an alternate storyline (I refer to it now as the "Legends" continuity). In fact, this fixes all of the massive continuity problems with the Clone Wars cartoon and the Clone Wars comics from Dark Horse. Now, the comics are the events of the clone wars in the "Legends" canon, and the cartoon is the "Disney" canon or whatever you want to call it.

[thegoat]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

A lot of people have been complaining about that, but I think having Tatooine in at least the first of the new trilogy is essential. Tatooine is the one planet that connects all of the trilogies together.

+1

The interesting thing about Tatooine is how little impact the planet seems to have on the galaxy yet how incredible that impact actually is. From Luke and Anakin's beyond humble origins to Yoda's stature and Palpatine's power, underestimation is a theme of Star Wars.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

Our world is obviously a young world compared to the Star Wars universe. Like OptimusL said, you could just say that their civilization plateaued, but again, using our world as a comparison, I find it hard to believe that after so much time, there isn't any sign of evolution at all, when we've had so much change in shorter spans of time in any given period. And we're only one species on one planet. Considering how many alien species and cultures the Star Wars universe encompasses, it doesn't make much sense that there was literally that much an arrest on their development, while still maintaining functioning technology. We're not talking hundreds of years, or a thousand years -- we're talking several thousand! The only thing that would have it make sense to me is if somehow all technology was lost on the greater part of the galaxy, and then it was rediscovered later. Maybe there's a story to be told there, if it hasn't already been told.

Another thing to consider, is that The Old Republic did have multiple Jedi vs. Sith Wars. There was no rule of two in the Old Republic time. The great Emperor Darth Vitiate lived over 1,000's of years. Technology was gained and lost during many battles that left planets in ruin. Lots of technology during this time was lost. The best ship factories often became targets.

[Optimus]

Originally Posted by Sith

Another thing to consider, is that The Old Republic did have multiple Jedi vs. Sith Wars. There was no rule of two in the Old Republic time. The great Emperor Darth Vitiate lived over 1,000's of years. Technology was gained and lost during many battles that left planets in ruin. Lots of technology during this time was lost. The best ship factories often became targets.

I'll have to read up on it again but I think the Infinite Empire was the most technologically advanced civilisation (I think they were one of the first to use hyperspace travel) with things like the Star Forge and then after their fall technology regressed and things like hyperspace travel weren't discovered until the Republic was first formed.