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Scarface32 · 09-17-2014, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zinthos

They are two separate characters. The Zilla in Final Wars has no canonical connection to the creature in the 1998 film. Obviously, it is supposed to represent that character for the metaphor that lies in the Godzilla vs. Zilla fight.

I found one of the quotes from Keith. Enjoy:

[Show spoiler]

But it IS the same creature, they even make a reference to it wth the dialogue "I knew that tuna eating monster was useless" — Zilla ate tuna in the 1998 film.

brooks101189 · 09-17-2014, 04:02 AM

Eh, this is a weird case. Toho did rename the 1998 Godzilla Zilla when Final Wars came out, but the 98 film is still marketed as Godzilla and not Zilla. Also, in Final Wars, Zilla is not explicitly referred to by name. On the back of the DVDs and Blurays, the logo for the monster states it as Zilla. It's not even clear if the creature in Final Wars is the offspring that hatched into the end credits of the 98 film or if the 1998 film is actually in Final Wars continuity. Of course, the Millennium continuity is screwed up enough as it is.

In any case, Zilla is only Zilla in the Final Wars movie and the IDW comic book series. But in the 1998 film Zilla IS the filmmaker's own version of Godzilla.

Beast · 09-17-2014, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Wrong. You might want to brush up on your Godzilla history.

http://godzilla.wikia.com/wiki/Zilla

My copy of the '98 movie still says Godzilla. And they still call him Godzilla.

Even the Rifftrax Live!: Godzilla from this year was called and marketed as Godzilla.

And the Rifftrax crew had to license the rights from Sony... not Toho.

So I don't really care what people who weren't involved with the film decided to call him.

I can call Godzilla "Princess Buttercup" if I want... doesn't change what the film is about.

50strat54 · 09-17-2014, 04:05 AM

Anyone watch the Target Exclusive bonus yet?

Scarface32 · 09-17-2014, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Beast

I can call Godzilla "Princess Buttercup" if I want... doesn't change what the film is about.

That would make an awesome movie

Godzilla: The Princess of buttercups

Dreamliner330 · 09-17-2014, 04:09 AM

Really debating on keeping this or not.

I saw it in theaters and thought it was okay, not in the top 5 or anything, I dunno, not much better the second time.

Just kind of feels under developed. Like they tried to cram to much in without fleshing it out.

I wish the would have continued the Cranston storyline and that was Godzilla. I didn't care about any of the other characters.

Beast · 09-17-2014, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

Will the stores eventually get copies in of the Target exclusive?

No clue. The person I spoke to today said they had none on order...

And the best bet was to just go home and order it online. Sorry.

kong73 · 09-17-2014, 04:12 AM

Just finished watching for the second time and I enjoyed it more then the first time. Maybe I'm just more comfortable at home but the pacing didn't bother me and thought it had just enough of the big G

Beast · 09-17-2014, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarface32

That would make an awesome movie

Godzilla: The Princess of buttercups

Couldn't be any more ridiculous than Godzilla vs. Barkley.

Where apparently Godzilla got bit by a radioactive spider and now shoots webs instead of fire.

Though I think Mothra would more likely be the Princess of Buttercups.

Vlad Draculi · 09-17-2014, 04:13 AM

I won't be watching the disc until at least this weekend, but I saw it in theaters twice and it is easily one of the best movie of the year, if not the best. It feels like a Godzilla movie.

Beast · 09-17-2014, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

I won't be watching the disc until at least this weekend, but I saw it in theaters twice and it is easily one of the best movie of the year, if not the best. It feels like a Godzilla movie.

It felt like a "Bunch Of Humans" movie with cameo appearances by Godzilla to me.

Optimus-Prime-Rox · 09-17-2014, 04:27 AM

Is this like the most non-hostile Godzilla against humans ever even when some of them opened fire on him? He came only to fight the other creatures then he left.

GasmaskAvenger · 09-17-2014, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Beast

It felt like a "Bunch Of Humans" movie with cameo appearances by Godzilla to me.

Isn't that what a good chunk of the old Toho Godzilla movies are to begin with?

HD Goofnut · 09-17-2014, 04:31 AM

I was hoping there would a little bit more action, but I had to remind myself that this was not Pacific Rim. Still, the acting is sound with a mediocre script. It may not live up to Gojira, but it's darn close. 7/10.

Beast · 09-17-2014, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

Isn't that what a good chunk of the old Toho Godzilla movies are to begin with?

They're also a lot shorter.. and don't repeatedly C-Tease Godzilla.

The whole show a few moments of some awesome scene and then cut away nonsense.

And then for the massive fight they have been building to by cutting away...

We get both excessive darkness and layers of smoke hiding it all.

Vlad Draculi · 09-17-2014, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Beast

It felt like a "Bunch Of Humans" movie with cameo appearances by Godzilla to me.

You don't watch many Godzilla movies, do you?

In Godzilla vs Megalon, Godzilla shows up at 1 hour and 4 minutes in the movie. It is an hour and 21 minutes long.

In Final Wars, Godzilla shows up at the hour and 7 minute mark, the movie is 2 hours long.

In the original, Godzilla is on screen for about 16 minutes of its 97 minute run time.

FrancisP · 09-17-2014, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

You don't watch many Godzilla movies, do you?

In Godzilla vs Megalon, Godzilla shows up at 1 hour and 4 minutes in the movie. It is an hour and 21 minutes long.

In Final Wars, Godzilla shows up at the hour and 7 minute mark, the movie is 2 hours long.

In the original, Godzilla is on screen for about 16 minutes of its 97 minute run time.

The question is not how many times he shows up. The problem for me is the cutaways when Godzilla and the MUTO battle in Hawaii. Not even 30 seconds of that battle. Then later, we see the military trying to stop the female MUTO only in little bits and pieces on a simulated broadcast.

In Godzilla 2000, Godzilla shows up on the screen in 3 separate segments totaling around 45 minutes.

FrancisP · 09-17-2014, 05:44 AM

I noticed that the 1998 version was shown in a two night special showing over the summer. It was billed as a comedy. I don't think that it was intended as a comedy.

Astro Zombie · 09-17-2014, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FrancisP

I noticed that the 1998 version was shown in a two night special showing over the summer. It was billed as a comedy. I don't think that it was intended as a comedy.

Actually, that was for the RiffTrax version.

FrancisP · 09-17-2014, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Astro Zombie

Actually, that was for the RiffTrax version.

That does show what the 1998 movie has come down to. Being made fun of.

09-17-2014, 04:02 AM	#1742
brooks101189 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2010 Location:My Home Trading Score:102	Eh, this is a weird case. Toho did rename the 1998 Godzilla Zilla when Final Wars came out, but the 98 film is still marketed as Godzilla and not Zilla. Also, in Final Wars, Zilla is not explicitly referred to by name. On the back of the DVDs and Blurays, the logo for the monster states it as Zilla. It's not even clear if the creature in Final Wars is the offspring that hatched into the end credits of the 98 film or if the 1998 film is actually in Final Wars continuity. Of course, the Millennium continuity is screwed up enough as it is. In any case, Zilla is only Zilla in the Final Wars movie and the IDW comic book series. But in the 1998 film Zilla IS the filmmaker's own version of Godzilla. Last edited by brooks101189; 09-17-2014 at 04:11 AM.

09-17-2014, 04:09 AM	#1746
Dreamliner330 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2012 Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:502 Blu-ray collection:1115 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:418	Godzilla (2014) 2D/3D - Amazon Pre-orders Really debating on keeping this or not. I saw it in theaters and thought it was okay, not in the top 5 or anything, I dunno, not much better the second time. Just kind of feels under developed. Like they tried to cram to much in without fleshing it out. I wish the would have continued the Cranston storyline and that was Godzilla. I didn't care about any of the other characters.

09-17-2014, 04:05 AM	#1744
50strat54 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Sep 2013 Trading Score:86	Anyone watch the Target Exclusive bonus yet?

09-17-2014, 04:12 AM	#1748
kong73 Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:New York City Home Theater Gallery:318 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:600 DVD collection:76	Just finished watching for the second time and I enjoyed it more then the first time. Maybe I'm just more comfortable at home but the pacing didn't bother me and thought it had just enough of the big G

09-17-2014, 04:13 AM	#1750
Vlad Draculi Banned Member since:Jul 2014 Blu-ray collection:567 Trading Score:2	I won't be watching the disc until at least this weekend, but I saw it in theaters twice and it is easily one of the best movie of the year, if not the best. It feels like a Godzilla movie.

09-17-2014, 04:27 AM	#1752
Optimus-Prime-Rox Blu-ray Knight Member since:May 2011 Location:Crossville, TN Trading Score:270	Is this like the most non-hostile Godzilla against humans ever even when some of them opened fire on him? He came only to fight the other creatures then he left.

09-17-2014, 04:31 AM	#1754
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	I was hoping there would a little bit more action, but I had to remind myself that this was not Pacific Rim. Still, the acting is sound with a mediocre script. It may not live up to Gojira, but it's darn close. 7/10.

09-17-2014, 05:44 AM	#1758
FrancisP Expert Member Member since:Jul 2012	I noticed that the 1998 version was shown in a two night special showing over the summer. It was billed as a comedy. I don't think that it was intended as a comedy.

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