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Old 09-21-2014, 08:38 PM   #2121
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How are you not blocked yet?

Insulting Tom, repeatedly.

You want to see a price increase? Go check out every single ID speaker/subwoofer company and their "news blurb" back around April to June.

Robert Green(one of the largest wood veneer manufacturers) tripled their cost. The rest of the industry doubled to quadrupled.

Smurfit(cardboard) doubled their cost.

Who do you think those upcharges get passed on to?

And...learn the differences between whether/weather(and numerous others). Nobody likes to pay attention to people with barely 2nd grade grammar.
Another fanboy! Sorry for my grammer, i speak faster then i type on my phone. Blocked, why cause i dared question a company. Lay off his pipe, cause he is not going to give you a sub either. I was done with this, but you decided to keep this going. Do you have access to his financial records? You dont. So shut up. Im aware that costs go up, but businesses are here to make money and price increases is way to get that done. I guessing you dont have common sense and logic. And i was told i was bitter and angry. You want to keep this going we can, i was done, but we can go for round 2!
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Old 09-21-2014, 08:40 PM   #2122
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Was that a question.
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Old 09-21-2014, 08:45 PM   #2123
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Not a fanboy. Don't own any SVS or PSA.

But all my speakers(not subs) are all from the era that wood veneer was par for the course. Not an added upcharge.

My newest speakers are circa 1995.
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Old 09-21-2014, 08:59 PM   #2124
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Not a fanboy. Don't own any SVS or PSA.

But all my speakers(not subs) are all from the era that wood veneer was par for the course. Not an added upcharge.

My newest speakers are circa 1995.
As somebody suggested to me, your probably working for PSA then. Why is everybody so defense about this topic? I asked a simple question to a business decision. I dont agree with it and i asked for proof. He is entitled to show them or not. Why do we have to accept an explanation from any company, as a consumer i have the right to question and ask for proof. Why am i wrong. Example; if a person back in the day filed bankruptcy, everyone is like you did what. If a company filed bk, everyone is like ok it happens. My point is we have to make companies more accoutable. And for the record i did not demand for financial records, i asked! Ive said numerous time PSA has good products, Tom has good customer serivice and builds relationships with his customers. Im not going to agree with everything he publishes. What did i do wrong? I should apolagies for asking a simple question. We need to be better then this.
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:05 PM   #2125
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Tom,
Are we done or are you going to unleash your dogs again. Im kidding! I repect your point view, dont agree with it, but respect it. Hopfully you can do the same.

Can we be friends now? Can we get back to talking about subwoofers? Can we do this?

If i disagree i wont be afraid to tell you, i hope you can respect that.
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:13 PM   #2126
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Tom,

Are we done or are you going to unleash your dogs again. Im kidding! I repect your point view, dont agree with it, but respect it. Hopfully you can do the same.



Can we be friends now? Can we get back to talking about subwoofers? Can we do this?



If i disagree i wont be afraid to tell you, i hope you can respect that.

I have a feeling you have lost all respect around here. Now just go away because it's not going to end nicely for you. Mods please!!!
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:17 PM   #2127
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I have a feeling you have lost all respect around here. Now just go away because it's not going to end nicely for you. Mods please!!!
Sounds like a threat. I can give you my address and you can tell me yourself how its going to end? Im not going anywhere buddy.
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:25 PM   #2128
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I'm not threatening you personally I'm just asking that the mods step in and toss your "arce"

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Old 09-21-2014, 09:32 PM   #2129
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I'm not threatening you personally I'm just asking that the mods step in and toss your arce
Good boy. Why would they kick me out, because i disgreed with a business decision. By the way i was done with this, but here you come. Dude Get off his pipe, he is not going to give you a free sub.

Are we going to keep doing this? I was done, but if you want continue we can. Im not going anywhere.

People are probably asking why is he still here. Answer is simple, i like psa products. Again, im going agree with everthing that published if its price or any individual product. What the hell is wrong with that?
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:57 PM   #2130
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Tom,
Are going to have vaneer options for the XV30Fse in the short future?
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Old 09-21-2014, 11:11 PM   #2131
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Are going to have vaneer options for the XV30Fse in the short future?
Sorry, no. The XV30Fse in veneer would be very expensive because of the size. Combine that with the MOQ(minimum order quantity) from our vendor that doesn't match up well with the overall demand for such a large subwoofer and it just doesn't make sense for us at this time.

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Old 09-21-2014, 11:35 PM   #2132
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Good boy. Why would they kick me out, because i disgreed with a business decision. By the way i was done with this, but here you come. Dude Get off his pipe, he is not going to give you a free sub.

Are we going to keep doing this? I was done, but if you want continue we can. Im not going anywhere.

People are probably asking why is he still here. Answer is simple, i like psa products. Again, im going agree with everthing that published if its price or any individual product. What the hell is wrong with that?
Just as an outsider looking in you are definitely acting like a troll. You now have just over 30 posts total on BD,com, all in this thread. Your first post about purchasing a sub is from 15 months ago (June 2013). Maybe if you were able to make a decision a little quicker you would not be so upset over a price increase which was bought on by Tom's vendors raising their prices. I own Hsu subs and Dr. Hsu's prices fluctuate also depending on his vendors costs. In fact Dr. Hsu's veneer prices went so high he stopped offering his better veneers. I was one of the last owners to get his walnut veneer on my ULS-15s.

So maybe you need to walk away for awhile until you really are truly in the market to buy a sub.
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Old 09-22-2014, 12:08 AM   #2133
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Just as an outsider looking in you are definitely acting like a troll. You now have just over 30 posts total on BD,com, all in this thread. Your first post about purchasing a sub is from 15 months ago (June 2013). Maybe if you were able to make a decision a little quicker you would not be so upset over a price increase which was bought on by Tom's vendors raising their prices. I own Hsu subs and Dr. Hsu's prices fluctuate also depending on his vendors costs. In fact Dr. Hsu's veneer prices went so high he stopped offering his better veneers. I was one of the last owners to get his walnut veneer on my ULS-15s.

So maybe you need to walk away for awhile until you really are truly in the market to buy a sub.
There is plenty of people in here that have not purchased a psa subwoofer. So that comment is stupid. Its obivious i have subs at the moment and im wanting to upgrade to something better. You obviously dont have a psa sub either how can you compare wood veeners. Ill choose when i make my decision, unless you want to me make me yourself. I made my piece with Tom and we are done with this topic. Hsu has good products and has allot of happy customers. Im sure there is a couple out there that think different, but you can say that about any company. It takes time to build a home theater and thats what im doing. You constanly need to upgrade tv, projectors, av receivers etc... If im here its becauae i think psa has the edge over hsu and svs.

Here is a better question, what do you think of your hsu and are you considering buying a monster from psa? And why havnt you bought one?
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Old 09-22-2014, 12:21 AM   #2134
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Sorry, no. The XV30Fse in veneer would be very expensive because of the size. Combine that with the MOQ(minimum order quantity) from our vendor that doesn't match up well with the overall demand for such a large subwoofer and it just doesn't make sense for us at this time.

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Tom,
Thank you for the response. Im sure it was tuff based on the past posts. That topic is done with and im looking forward to asking you more questions in the future. Again, PSA is first in my list. Im currently in a project and that will take some time to build, the constuction that is. I will also be upgrading all speakers and subs. 4 upgraded subs im thinking of getting. Thats why its taken so long to make a decision (Hometheatergeek). Were talking about thousands of dollars just in subs. Plus psa has plenty to choose from and its hard to pick on.
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Old 09-22-2014, 12:28 AM   #2135
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There is plenty of people in here that have not purchased a psa subwoofer.
But those other posters have not acted disrespectful to other posters including Tom.

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So that comment is stupid. Its obivious i have subs at the moment and im wanting to upgrade to something better.
Really you have subs (more than one) right now? How about proving to us doubters with a post of your current setup with a couple of pics?

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You obviously dont have a psa sub either how can you compare wood veeners.
I wasn't comparing veneers, I was pointing out a fact to you that vendors prices drive the prices we have to pay for commodities.


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Ill choose when i make my decision, unless you want to me make me yourself.
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It takes time to build a home theater and thats what im doing. You constanly need to upgrade tv, projectors, av receivers etc... If im here its becauae i think psa has the edge over hsu and svs.
It does take time to build a HT but arguing with an owner and others that are trying to help you build a better HT is not going to get you very far.

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Here is a better question, what do you think of your hsu and are you considering buying a monster from psa? And why havnt you bought one?
I am very happy with my 4 subwoofers right now. Again I was just passing though this thread and was a little annoyed at your posts toward others.

Carry on and I'll pop some more
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Old 09-22-2014, 01:32 AM   #2136
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But those other posters have not acted disrespectful to other posters including Tom.



Really you have subs (more than one) right now? How about proving to us doubters with a post of your current setup with a couple of pics?



I wasn't comparing veneers, I was pointing out a fact to you that vendors prices drive the prices we have to pay for commodities.




Incoherent sentence.



It does take time to build a HT but arguing with an owner and others that are trying to help you build a better HT is not going to get you very far.



I am very happy with my 4 subwoofers right now. Again I was just passing though this thread and was a little annoyed at your posts toward others.


Carry on and I'll pop some more
Good valid Points!

I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but I wasn't arguing. I disagreed which is very different. If every disagreement with my wife was an argument and I was disrespectful to her each time, I would be divorced by now. 9 beautiful years and counting. As a consumer I think I have the right to ask why. Looking back could of I've used better words to express my point of course. I got caught in the emotion just like everyone else.

I'm aware vendors will raise prices and they raise prices to make more money. Its no different then what any other company does. But, I understand that because I know its part of the business. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. There is allot of things I don't agree with in general, but I understand the logic behind it.

Anyways,
Yes I will post some pictures of my humble theater room. Its currently in a 13 X 15 room which is to small. The project is to expand a room to make it a dedicated theater room. Once the room is completed it will approximately be about 22 X 10.

I currently have a Bic acoustech system with 2 Bic Pl-200's. Do the job, but not completely happy.
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Good valid Points!

I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but I wasn't arguing. I disagreed which is very different. If every disagreement with my wife was an argument and I was disrespectful to her each time, I would be divorced by now. 9 beautiful years and counting. As a consumer I think I have the right to ask why. Looking back could of I've used better words to express my point of course. I got caught in the emotion just like everyone else.

I'm aware vendors will raise prices and they raise prices to make more money. Its no different then what any other company does. But, I understand that because I know its part of the business. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. There is allot of things I don't agree with in general, but I understand the logic behind it.

Anyways,
Yes I will post some pictures of my humble theater room. Its currently in a 13 X 15 room which is to small. The project is to expand a room to make it a dedicated theater room. Once the room is completed it will approximately be about 22 X 10.

I currently have a Bic acoustech system with 2 Bic Pl-200's. Do the job, but not completely happy.
How about you put up and shut up here.

Tom already said(essentially) "Do me a favor and don't buy one of my subs".

Why not take your act over to Salk and buy a custom made Rhythmik. (Your act would last 1 post there)

Over there you can get whatever you want...and stop pestering Tom over his pricing motives.

I'll pop a few pounds of popcorn if you dare say anything like...

"I think you're products cost to much, why do you have to make them in America" (misspellings on purpose)

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Old 09-22-2014, 02:18 AM   #2138
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How about you put up and shut up here.

Tom already said(essentially) "Do me a favor and don't buy one of my subs".

Why not take your act over to Salk and buy a custom made Rhythmik. (Your act would last 1 post there)

Over there you can get whatever you want...and stop pestering Tom over his pricing motives.
How about i give you my address and you shut me up yourself tough guy. I have been done with conversation for a while now and here you are again. I feel i cant express anything here cause people get all butt hurt about anything. What did i say that was so bad in this last post. Ill go wherever i want and when i want. This topic was done with, but you feel you need to express more. If your looking for an apology you are not going to get it. Ill go as far as saying i could of used better choice of words to express my point.

Why are you promoting salk and rhythmik, do you work for them?

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Old 09-22-2014, 02:33 AM   #2139
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I design theatres. I don't care who buys what.

Don't understand how you don't get that veneer(not vaneer) costs a bunch. If Tom thinks an enormous subwoofer would take too much extra cash for veneer choice...he knows his company. If 1 out of 50 customers buys the X upgrade...why bother with the time to offer it. Totally understand that.

You want a non-vinyl subwoofer, buy one and shut up over the extra cost.

I had a customer once decide they wanted their 9 speaker theatre in 9 different color speakers. Why?

The wife drove a Jetta with different color body panels.

I contacted 5 speaker companies to see who would bite. Salk, Totem, Zu, James and Ohm Walsh were my choices.

Totem responded first. The 9 colors were VW automotive paints.

Speakers that were $14,000 to begin with...rang up $38,000. (Part of that cost was a freight expedited shipment which was $3500 by itself...and Totem required it)

Why?

Totem charged a non-refunded $3000 as a practice run on one piece of cabinet.
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Old 09-22-2014, 02:35 AM   #2140
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How about you put up and shut up here.

Tom already said(essentially) "Do me a favor and don't buy one of my subs".

Why not take your act over to Salk and buy a custom made Rhythmik. (Your act would last 1 post there)

Over there you can get whatever you want...and stop pestering Tom over his pricing motives.

I'll pop a few pounds of popcorn if you dare say anything like...

"I think you're products cost to much, why do you have to make them in America" (misspellings on purpose)
If me disagreeing makes me a anti-American, then you are plain stupid. Dont start something you dont know how to finish.
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