2-D IMAX release of Transformers:Age of Extinction

[ChristmasFnatic]

Id certainly buy a 2D IMAX version. 3D IMAX version is useless for me cuz I dont have a 3DTV; while 2D non-IMAX is a no no, cuz Im not a big fan of the movie either.

Only a 2D IMAX version will tempt me to getting it.

[ultlife2013]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

[Show spoiler]

Nice Emily Watson avatar. She looks so amazing, omg!

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by BozQ

Skyfall did not have VAR. It had an alternate 1.89 aspect ratio exclusively for IMAX. Skyfall is unique where Roger Deakins shot with the ARRI Alexa with both 2.39 and 1.89 in mind. Finished in 4K and downsized to 2K. And he insisted the movie not go through IMAX's DMR process.

But we only got the scope version on Blu-ray.

I believe it was the opposite, finished in 2K and upscaled the 4K. The ARRI doesn't have a 4K sensor.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

I believe it was the opposite, finished in 2K and upscaled the 4K. The ARRI doesn't have a 4K sensor.

No, it was Mastered in 4K.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1074638/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

[WontonNoodle]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

No doubt. IIRC, it is right around the 42 minute mark or so when it first starts to drop. Annoying to say the least!

I don't even know how that happens. How can a release be this messed up. And the fact they haven't done anything about it is embarrassing considering it is the 'ultimate' package that came way after the 2D release and sold for $40. I'm still pissed.

To people who say there's no problem, there is 100% a problem. Just search DOTM avsforum. Don't know how anyone would be unable to notice the brightness dip on a properly calibrated screen though.... Every disk has the same problem.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

Which is more laughable or depressing depending on how you wish to look at it as they spent an extra few months making sure it was "perfect".

That is amazing! How did they miss it?? I caught it on first watch before I even read about it.

[SethRex]

I was lucky to view Transformers in 2D in my theater's local GTX. It wasn't IMAX but it was huge. And it was glorious 2D.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

No, it was Mastered in 4K.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1074638/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

Yep, it 'only' contains 2.8k worth of detail though due to the cameras used. Not sure what the digital effects where rendered at (probably 2k).

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

Yep, it 'only' contains 2.8k worth of detail though due to the cameras used. Not sure what the digital effects where rendered at (probably 2k).

I know, but at least they didn't throw away the 0.8K.

[Drewbee87]

Before watching it, I'd say they should release a 2D IMAX Blu-ray. But the switches happen way too often and a lot of them are unnecessary IMO. It's they went "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" with each cut scene. I haven't seen the IMAX version of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, were the switches as bad as they are in this?

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

Before watching it, I'd say they should release a 2D IMAX Blu-ray. But the switches happen way too often and a lot of them are unnecessary IMO. It's they went "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" with each cut scene. I haven't seen the IMAX version of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, were the switches as bad as they are in this?

That movie has less than 10 minutes of IMAX footage.

[DJTommy]

A regular IMAX edition would of been sweet

[WontonNoodle]

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

Before watching it, I'd say they should release a 2D IMAX Blu-ray. But the switches happen way too often and a lot of them are unnecessary IMO. It's they went "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" with each cut scene. I haven't seen the IMAX version of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, were the switches as bad as they are in this?

No, ROTF has a forest fight that is all IMAX for like 5 minutes and then another 5 minute scene that is all IMAX which is intercut with another scene that is shot in anamorphic so you get varying AR but barely within the actual scene.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

Before watching it, I'd say they should release a 2D IMAX Blu-ray. But the switches happen way too often and a lot of them are unnecessary IMO. It's they went "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" with each cut scene. I haven't seen the IMAX version of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, were the switches as bad as they are in this?

Originally Posted by jscoggins

That movie has less than 10 minutes of IMAX footage.

They are glorious though. The forest fight is one of the most stunning scenes on BD. I wish the finale had been in IMAX too, but the few scenes that are in it with the Devastator are devastatingly gorgeous.

[Rinzler]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

They are glorious though. The forest fight is one of the most stunning scenes on BD. I wish the finale had been in IMAX too, but the few scenes that are in it with the Devastator are devastatingly gorgeous.

Agreed!

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

Before watching it, I'd say they should release a 2D IMAX Blu-ray. But the switches happen way too often and a lot of them are unnecessary IMO. It's they went "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" with each cut scene. I haven't seen the IMAX version of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, were the switches as bad as they are in this?

There were mainly two chapters that made use of IMAX.
The forest fight and the portions in Egypt, mostly involving Devastator.

The forest fight was quite good. It had about two scope cuts, but it's otherwise a good 5 minute stretch where it was the full 1.78 frame uninterrupted.

The Egypt chapters were very annoying though. I recall it was only full frame when Devastator was on screen. And whenever he's not in there, it cuts back and forth with the scope ratio.

Age of Extinction was as bad as this. I would have preferred a fixed AR in 3D, either scope or flat. Just not this quick cuts between the two ARs.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by BozQ

There were mainly two chapters that made use of IMAX.
The forest fight and the portions in Egypt, mostly involving Devastator.

The forest fight was quite good. It had about two scope cuts, but it's otherwise a good 5 minute stretch where it was the full 1.78 frame uninterrupted.

The Egypt chapters were very annoying though. I recall it was only full frame when Devastator was on screen. And whenever he's not in there, it cuts back and forth with the scope ratio.

Age of Extinction was as bad as this. I would have preferred a fixed AR in 3D, either scope or flat. Just not this quick cuts between the two ARs.

TDK and TDKR also did this. The AR switches are either poorly planned or not systematic. That's why the best use of IMAX is still Catching Fire.

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

TDK and TDKR also did this. The AR switches are either poorly planned or not systematic. That's why the best use of IMAX is still Catching Fire.

Yeah. Star Trek Into Darkness faced similar quick cuts between the two ARs too. But it wasn't as bad as TF:ROTF and when it did open, it was gorgeous! It was great cinematography.

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen? Meh...
If you study the shots of forest battle carefully, all Michael Bay really did was rigged the forest with explosives and just asked Shia LaBeouf to run and hide from the explosions. Everything else is just visual effects animations slapped onto these IMAX footages.
And Egypt? It's almost like someone filmed it like a tourist or a documentary filmmaker and then throw in Devastator, complete with wrecking ball testicles for good measure.

I'd easily say it's one of the worst use of IMAX cameras in a Hollywood feature. Completely pointless and I almost regretted wasting so much effort getting this copy.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by BozQ

I'd easily say it's one of the worst use of IMAX cameras in a Hollywood feature. Completely pointless and I almost regretted wasting so much effort getting this copy.

You should spend a little more money and ship it back to Michael Bay's office.

[WontonNoodle]

Originally Posted by BozQ

Yeah. Star Trek Into Darkness faced similar quick cuts between the two ARs too. But it wasn't as bad as TF:ROTF and when it did open, it was gorgeous! It was great cinematography.

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen? Meh...
If you study the shots of forest battle carefully, all Michael Bay really did was rigged the forest with explosives and just asked Shia LaBeouf to run and hide from the explosions. Everything else is just visual effects animations slapped onto these IMAX footages.
And Egypt? It's almost like someone filmed it like a tourist or a documentary filmmaker and then throw in Devastator, complete with wrecking ball testicles for good measure.

I'd easily say it's one of the worst use of IMAX cameras in a Hollywood feature. Completely pointless and I almost regretted wasting so much effort getting this copy.

Actually it was one of the better uses of IMAX, because in theatres the robots were HUGE and tall since it was in full IMAX AR. The forest fight is probably the best IMAX bit aside from the burj khalifa in MI4. It is totally pointless at home though, with half the stuff screen off. Just using IMAX for no good reason like in TDK, Catching fire, etc. for just visual quality/as a gimmick is stupid to me.